# SDMB Baseball Hall of Fame Vote #6: Right Fielders

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This is the sixth round of voting on the SDMB Baseball Hall of Fame. In this round we will be voting on right fielders.

The rules remain the same as before, with one additional explanatory point:

1. Please vote for TEN right fielders who have played major league baseball in North America, not including Negro League play, for which we will have other rounds of voting. You may vote for fewer than ten if you like, but I do ask you name ten if you possibly can. If you vote for more than ten, all names past #10 are discounted. The order you place the players in makes no difference.

2. Your votes are not restricted by any restriction Cooperstown uses. You may vote for currently active players, players who have just recently retired, or players who eligibility to Cooperstown has passed.

3. The ten players who receive the most votes are immediately inducted into the Hall of Fame.

4. Although I will provide, in this post, a full list of all right fielders who are in the Hall of Fame, likely candidates, or had careers of significant length and accomplishment, **it is an open ballot and you may vote for absolutely anyone you wish. If I miss a really significant name, please make it known.**

5. Discussion is encouraged but please let some votes gather up first. Detailed discussion of this series of threads may be found here:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=477967&page=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=477967&page=1)

**Eligibility Note:** Establishing what outfielders are right fielders is a bit of a judgment call here. Due to record keeping anachronisms, it is difficult to find detailed information on what position various outfielders played for most of baseball history; Babe Ruth is credited with 2241 games as playing “outfield.” So to be honest it’s possible, despite my best efforts, that we have some right fielders here who might have played a lot of center or left. And of course, even in cases where I do know, it’s often a close call; Andre Dawson played over 1200 games in right, so here he is, but he also played over 1000 games in center. Pete Rose I always thought played most of his outfield games in right, but according to baseballreference he played mostly in left. But I think this list is reasonably spot on. If you think a great player is missing here I probably have him classified as a left or center fielder. Please let me know if I have made any egregious errors.

Thanks, and happy voting!  
Henry Aaron  
Bob Allison  
Felipe Alou  
Jesse Barfield  
Hank Bauer  
Bobby Bonds  
Jeff Burroughs  
Jay Buhner  
Johnny Callison  
Jose Canseco  
Jack Clark  
Roberto Clemente  
Rocky Colavito  
Sam Crawford  
Gavy Cravath  
Kiki Cuyler  
Andre Dawson  
Dwight Evans  
Elmer Flick  
Juan Gonzalez  
Ken Griffey SENIOR  
Tony Gwynn  
Vladimir Guerrero  
Harry Heilmann  
Tommy Henrich  
Babe Herman  
Harry Hooper  
Reggie Jackson  
Fielder Jones  
Al Kaline  
Wee Willie Keeler  
King Kelly  
Chuck Klein  
Roger Maris  
Tommy McCarthy  
Wally Moses  
Paul O’Neill  
Tony Oliva  
Mel Ott  
Dave Parker  
Sam Rice  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth  
Wildfire Schulte  
Ruben Sierra  
Gary Sheffield  
Enos Slaughter  
Reggie Smith  
Sammy Sosa  
Rusty Staub  
Darryl Strawberry  
Ichiro Suzuki  
Sam Thompson  
Mike Tiernan  
Jack Tobin  
Dixie Walker  
Larry Walker  
Paul Waner  
Dave Winfield  
Ross Youngs

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I missed the last couple while away at a conference. This one is going to be right off the top of my head.

Hernry Aaron  
Roberto Clemente  
Tony Gwynn  
Vlad Guerrero  
Reggie Jackson  
Al Kaline  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth  
Ichiro  
Dave Winfield

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-6-right-fielders/459692/3 "2008-08-12T01:39:08Z")

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Henry Aaron  
Bobby Bonds (my sentimental vote this round)  
Roberto Clemente  
Sam Crawford  
Al Kaline  
Willie Keeler  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth  
Paul Waner

I’ll vote for Mr. October in the at-large round(s).

I had a hard time not voting for Babe Herman, just because.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-6-right-fielders/459692/4 "2008-08-12T01:58:18Z")

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Henry Aaron  
Ichiro Suzuki  
Vladimir Guerrero  
Tony Gwynn  
Reggie Jackson  
Babe Ruth  
Al Kaline  
Frank Robinson  
Roberto Clemente  
Dave Winfield

Wanted to add Larry Walker, just couldn’t do it.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-baseball-hall-of-fame-vote-6-right-fielders/459692/5 "2008-08-12T02:00:36Z")

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Hmm why are we going with right fielders first, and not left?

In any event:

The Babe (underrated as an athlete)  
Hammerin’ Hank (one of the most consistent ballplayers ever-never really had an off-year until he was 41)  
Frank Robinson (neither did this guy-1963 maybe)  
Mel Ott (proof that you can own a great hitting park and still be great yourself)  
Tony Gwynn (yeah mostly average but was a good defender and baserunner)  
Reggie! (unfairly knocked for the K’s)  
Roberto Clemente (quite a bit of the myth has some truth to it)  
Paul Waner (took big advantage of his huge home park-check out all the doubles and triples)  
Sam Crawford (played 2nd banana to Ty Cobb, which makes him kind of underrated)  
Al Kaline (never really developed from his age 20 season, but it was good enough of a baseline to get him in)

[My Sad Sack vote probably would have gone to Bobby Bonds, but that would mean either of the Two Tigers would have to be bumped, which I really couldn’t do)

Hmm who is the best RFer of the current generation? Nobody stands out-Manny hasn’t played RF in almost ten years. Magglio Ordonez? Won’t come within sniffing distance of the Hall. [Edit Oh yeah, forgot Vladdie, he might have a shot, and in a couple of more years he may be at 9-10 on my list. Ichiro gets an Incomplete until he gets old enough for me to properly evaluate him-Japan time included]

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**Babe Ruth** _(I mentioned I don’t pay a lot of attention to OPS+ but 207? Holy crap!)_  
**Henry Aaron  
Roberto Clemente  
Frank Robinson  
Mel Ott  
Sam Crawford**  
\*The first 6 were easy. \*  
\*\*Harry Heilmann  
Paul Waner  
Reggie Jackson \*\* _Low average but great power, good speed and incredible run production with a good chunk of his career in a pitcher’s era. Also that whole Mr. October thing._  
\*\*Tony Gwynn \*\* \*was actually better at being Wee Willie was than Wee Willie and I decided to only support one of the two and I would rather have Reggie than etiher and he was my ninth choice. \*

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Henry Aaron  
Bobby Bonds  
Roberto Clemente  
Dwight Evans  
Tony Gwynn  
Reggie Jackson  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth  
Dave Winfield

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It would have made more sense to choose 30 outfielders instead of splitting them by position.

Henry Aaron  
Bobby Bonds  
Roberto Clemente  
Ken Griffey SENIOR  
Tony Gwynn  
Reggie Jackson  
Al Kaline  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth

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Babe Ruth - Ate lots of hot dogs!  
Hank Aaron - so good some goofy white guy came out to run with him.  
Frank Robinson - MVP both leagues.  
Sam Crawford - Even Ty Cobb liked him  
Chuck Klein - Stats probably inflated by the park. But, great stats while in Philly. Even a triple crown. And, reportedly a great defensive player.  
Roberto Clemente - Great player that died too young.  
Tony Gwynn - A hit machine. Great pitcher studier.  
Mel Ott - Lots of homers  
Dave Winfield - Watch out pigeons!  
Paul Waner - I look up a bunch of guys to see who I think deserves top ten honors. In the process I found this great piece of trivia about Waner from [this baseball page](http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/wanerpa01.php)

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> Waner was a legendary drinker. According to hisbrother Lloyd, “Paul thought you played best when you relaxed, anddrinking was a good way to relax.” When Pirates management asked Wanerto give up drinking in 1938 because Pittsburgh considered themselvescontenders for the pennant, he agreed and hit only .280. This markedthe only year in his Pirates career that he failed to hit .300

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Hank Aaron  
Roberto Clemente  
Tony Gwynn  
Harry Heilmann  
Reggie Jackson  
Al Kaline  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth  
Paul Waner

I really wanted to put Dave Winfield in there, but there’s a limit of ten, and the competition is mighty good.

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George Herman Ruth  
Henry Aaron  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Roberto Clemente  
Dwight Evans  
Paul Waner  
Willie Keeler  
Tony Gwynn  
Sam Rice

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Babe Ruth  
…  
Hank Aaron  
Frank Robinson  
Mel Ott  
Sam Crawford  
Reggie Jackson  
Al Kaline  
Paul Waner  
Roberto Clemente  
Tony Gwynn (A rarity – significantly overrated, but still great. An on-base machine for over 10,000 plate appearances)

Close, but lacking in cigars: Harry Heilmann, Gary Sheffield, Chuck Klein

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My picks:

Henry Aaron  
Babe Ruth  
Roberto Clemente  
Frank Robinson  
Wee Willie Keeler  
Paul Waner  
Mel Ott  
Reggie Jackson  
Tony Gwynn  
Dave Winfield

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1. Bonds
2. Ruth
3. Kaline
4. Clemente  
5.Crawford
5. Guerrero
6. AAron
7. Gwynn  
9 Ott

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Number 10 wont come out.

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ichiro suzuki No 10. He is just too good to leave off. He could have 4000 hits if he played here his whole career.

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A bit difficult after the first few picks:  
**George Herman “Babe” Ruth** - His life seemed to have been a mess, but this guy was just playing on a different planet than everyone else.

… …

**Hank Aaron** - He kept up a great standard of play for so long, it’s quite remarkable. Being the all-time HR king really suited him.  
**Frank Robinson** - One of the great all-time sluggers.  
**Mel Ott** - Almost a perfect offensive package, great OBP, great slugging, great walk/strikeout ratio.  
**Vladimir Guerrero** - OPS+ 147, even in the offensive hyper-age. Seems to have a joy of playing that I just love to watch.  
**Harry Heilmann** - OPS+ 148, featuring a lovely .410 OBP. A tough man to strike out, as well.  
**Paul Waner** - I admit I’m a bit biased by the stories I’ve read about Big & Little Poison, but OBP .404 and OPS+ 134 show that there’s something to the tales.  
**Reggie Jackson** - His OBP is a bit low for this list, but there’s no denying he was one of the few pre-eminent sluggers of his fairly low offense era.  
**Sam Crawford** - He’s just numbers to me, but OPS+ 144 is really nice, and he seemed to have decent speed on the basepaths. I’m not too familiar with that era, but he seems like a good representative.  
**Tony Gwynn** - This last slot was between Clemente, Kaline and Gwynn; they all have similar OPS+, but I’m such an OBP whore that Gwynn gets the slot. He also has the (unfair) advantage of being the only one of the three I’ve seen play. Great arm, as well.

Sorry Roberto and Al. Tough ballot. I really would have liked to vote for Ichiro, as he’s probably my favorite player to watch, but the numbers just don’t add up. He’s fairly one-dimensional, and his OBP isn’t even all that spectacular.

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Wow. I don’t want to cut anyone. Much different than the las t round

Henry Aaron  
Roberto Clemente  
Andre Dawson  
Tony Gwynn  
Babe Herman  
Reggie Jackson  
Roger Maris  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth

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Just a question to put out there: How many of you are considering defense at all for this position?

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Henry Aaron  
Rocky Colavito  
Harry Heilmann  
Reggie Jackson  
Mel Ott  
Frank Robinson  
Babe Ruth  
Gary Sheffield  
Enos Slaughter  
Sammy Sosa

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