# SDMB Big League Fantasy Football 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 16, 2012, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394 "2012-07-16T07:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/101 "2012-09-05T17:58:27Z")
I put together an interesting chart. It shows how many players people drafted that they nominated themselves. It also includes a column that takes out any $1 players you bought. ```auto Team Same Same >$1 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 3 2 Cobra Kai 3 2 Court Jesters 8 1 Curry Porkrinds 10 8 Evil Monkey 7 2 Exploding Pancakes 7 2 Frosted_Lightning 6 3 Garcon's Cedilla 5 4 Living Through Them 2 0 No Use For A Name II 4 2 Not Sure 2 2 Overly Sentimental 6 2 Phoenix Redbirds 8 4 Red Hochuli Peppers 8 6 Return of Ryan Leaf 2 1 Rough and Tumblrs 7 2 Scissor Me Timbers 6 0 The Fleas (Wilson) 5 1 Unrelated Siblings 1 0 Up By Three 3 2 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/102 "2012-09-05T18:06:41Z")
1. (15) Chris Johnson (Ten - RB) $51 I fully expect Johnson to be back in top-notch form this season and it pays to have a productive back in this league. 2. (65) DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR) $31 Jackson is going to surprise a lot of people and really erase last season from memory. As a receiver, he is still a beast and Vick works well with him at number 1. 3. (77) Jermichael Finley (GB - TE) $23 Finley may have had some preseason injury issues, but he will definitely get catches when he gets back into it. 4. (85) Alex Smith (SF - QB) $11 No idea really. In theory, his numbers should go up this season with the new offense set up. Still, as long as he doesn’t have a bunch of turnovers I will be happy with this pick up. I also cannot complain about the price of this pick at all. 5. (126) Isaac Redman (Pit - RB) $14 Not thrilled with this pick looking back. Hopefully he will surprise me until Mendenhall comes back. 6. (127) Mark Ingram (NO - RB) $12 Ingram should prove himself as a solid flex option when the Saints square up against weaker run Defenses. He will get scores even though he is in a carousel backfield. 7. (135) Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR) $13 He’s a receiver for the Jets. Being at the top of their list at least means someone will throw the ball to him. 8. (165) Green Bay (GB - DEF) $5 Solid defense and I would hate to basically toss this position in a league of this size. Every little bit will help and GB will provide me with some nice DEF numbers. 9. (167) Michael Crabtree (SF - WR) $16 Coming into the season with no injury issues should help Crabtree build off of a pretty solid finish to last season. It is also going to be nice to see how he works with Moss lined up on the other side. I expect him to get some solid opportunities. 10. ``` (180) Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR) $6 ``` Pretty excited to see what he can do this season. Definitely worth the price considering the potential. 1. ``` (182) Coby Fleener (Ind - TE) $4 ``` Hopefully, catching passes from his college QB will help him do big things as a rookie. 1. ``` (187) Ryan Fitzpatrick (Buf - QB) $11 ``` Nice backup…why did he cost as much as my starter? 1. ``` (245) Neil Rackers (Was - K) $1 ``` 2. ``` (286) Emmanuel Sanders (Pit - WR) $1 ``` 3. ``` (294) Bernard Pierce (Bal - RB) $1 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/103 "2012-09-05T18:27:31Z")
This was my first ever auction league in Fantasy Football. I didn’t have much of a strategy - not to have any money left over (duh), pay big for a couple of players I really wanted, and to not go crazy on a top QB. From reading what I have, looks like the third one is against conventional wisdom. **QB - Robert Griffin III ($15), Christian Ponder ($7)** Well, this is not what I expected… I thought I was just bidding up RGIII, I was fully expecting to bid twice that later for one of the Mannings. When I got RGIII for what I think is a reasonable price, I changed gears. I knew I wanted a backup, and Ponder’s OK at that price. **RB - Matt Forte ($51), Adrian Peterson ($40), Bernard Scott ($8), Montario Hardesty ($2), Chris Ivory ($1)** Forte is a player I targeted, and I got him for what I think is a reasonable price. AP… could be great value at that price, could be a massive overpay. Health is everything with these two. No decent backup. Did I really spend $8 on Bernard Scott??? Hardesty is a good gamble I think. **WR - Jeremy Maclin ($30), Brandon Lloyd ($27), Stevie Johnson ($18), Steve Breaston ($1)** Love those top three. Maclin I may have overpaid for, but I love Lloyd and Stevie at those prices. Lloyd was a top target of mine. I really wanted Hakeem Nicks, but he came up before I had a good feel of the WR market. I should have kept bidding on him rather than spending so much on Maclin later. No bench at all here, obviously. **TE - Heath Miller ($2), Martellus Bennett ($2)** Meh. Not bad for four dollars. Heath is probably over the hill, and Bennett may not be all that. **K - Rob Bironas; DEF/ST - San Diego (both at $1)** Whatever. Wasn’t going to spend anything at these positions. Final analysis - I’m OK with the team - I have a solid top six, assuming AP is healthy (big assumption). I really, really should have done what it took to get Gerhardt. I don’t have any good options at flex, however. Will need to keep my eye out for quality in-season pickups. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/104 "2012-09-05T18:39:05Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t have any good options at flex, however. Once you do the math of starters in the NFL v. this league, I think you’ll see that juggling Breaston and Scott isn’t a terrible flex option itself. There’s plenty of viability in punting a roster spot and plugging someone in that has an outside chance of targets/carries. It’s nice when someone solidifies - but it’s not something you can count on going into Week 1. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/105 "2012-09-05T18:48:43Z")
Ugh, the autopicker was nice enough to draft me a good team for 2008. I will have to make sure I attend the draft in full next year, auction drafts just don’t work on autopick. QB: **Jay Cutler** $23, **John Skelton** $3. Not a bad price for 2 starters. Cutler could be quite a steal at $23, but he’s been on the ‘should break out’ list for how many years now? Skelton is a starter, and at least I’m always on top of the Cardinals QB situation. RB: **Toby Gerhard** $10, **Doug Martin** $32,\*\* Michael Bush\*\* $10, **Tim Hightower $4**. Well, I probably overpaid for Martin, but at least I’ve got 2 starters and an interesting RB in Bush. Hightower might end up on a team if there is an injury in the 1st week. WR: **Roddy White** $39, **Jordy Nelson $36, Michael Floyd** $8, T **errell Owens $1.** I love having White and Nelson. I wouldn’t have taken Owens for a $1, I think he’s done. TE: **Brandon Pettigrew** $20, **Todd Heap** $1. I love Pettigrew, I wouldn’t have probably drafted a backup if it wasn’t for the autopicker. D/ST: \*\*Buffalo \*\*$6 I wanted them for the games they’ve got against the Jets and Dolphins. Plus, I figure they’ve got some late season games in crap weather. K: Yes, the autopicker drafted me 2 kickers that aren’t on active rosters right now! ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/106 "2012-09-05T18:58:40Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > Final analysis - I’m OK with the team - I have a solid top six, assuming AP is healthy (big assumption). I really, really should have done what it took to get Gerhardt. I don’t have any good options at flex, however. Will need to keep my eye out for quality in-season pickups. This league is tough to trade in, I’m certainly willing to consider trading Gerhardt, but at first glance I don’t see a deal that would work. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/107 "2012-09-05T20:00:15Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > **TE - Heath Miller ($2), Martellus Bennett ($2)** > Meh. Not bad for four dollars. Heath is probably over the hill, and Bennett may not be all that. I was willing to bet my remaining $4-5 on Bennett. I think he’ll work with Coughlin/Manning. Manning likes the TE and Bennett is really all he’ll have. But I was half dozing by that point, and missed his nomination. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/108 "2012-09-05T21:58:05Z")
That second list, with all the positions in cost order, was what I was looking for, thanks. But would you mind also posting each team’s results in one post for future reference? Self review: I deviated from my strategy significantly this year, which will end up costing me. I don’t know how much I should detail my strategy lest you all use my fantasy genius against me. But in general terms, I prefer to seek value in the middle of the draft after the big expensive guys are gone and build the most efficient dollar per point team I can manage, and it’s worked for me in the past. **QB - Aaron Rodgers $58, Ryan Tannehill $1** One of the things I’ve consistently done in this league was to try to find a value QB who could maybe do 20-30% less than the best QBs but cost 1/4th as much, but every year I ended up regretting it, and often trading for a better QB. The relative values of QBs to the rest of the positions in this league changes due to the scarcity at the position relative to normal leagues. The fact that QBs are the top absolute scorers become worth more - you can’t count on easily grabbing a top 12 QB like you generally can in smaller leagues, and the dropoff is steep from there. QBs gain in relative terms due to their absolute score generation in a league where replacement level players are much worse and reliable point scorers are scarcer. That said, it makes the top QBs more valuable relative to the top RBs, but I don’t know if I had to really go out and spend a ton for Rodgers. In previous years I’d have gone for Vick at $29, Cutler at $23, and Roethlisberger at $18 as much better point per dollar values. I’m not sure yet if I’ve made a mistake. But in terms of reliable, high ceiling points production, Rodgers has got to be the single most valuable player in the league. Tannehill - well, I was down to $1 picks and in this league not everyone can draft a backup QB. Getting a starter for $1 is a good thing even if he’s going to suck. There’s at least some upside there. **WR - AJ Green $36, Julio Jones $35, Kendall Wright $7, DeVier Posey $1.** My receiving corps is young, speculative, and not that cheap for what it is. High ceilings, risky floors, only okay value. In the past I’d probably draft one $30 receiver and try to get a bunch of $15-22 guys. Not sure if I made the right call here. I’m not even sure I’m in love with my expensive guys, but based on the WR market at the time they seemed reasonable values. Posey is a pretty decent lottery ticket for when Andre Johnson gets hurt. My guys definitely have upside and chance to surprise, but maybe I should’ve gone lower risk and diversified more by picking up more $20 guys. **TE Vernon Davis $21, Jordan Cameron $1** I like Davis this year - SF’s receivers will clear out space for Davis to work, but Smith isn’t good enough to get the ball to the deep receivers consistently, which is the ideal circumstances for Davis - room to run, and lots of targets. I think he’s going to be the 4th TE this year, with the upside to go even higher, so pretty good value. Jordan Cameron is a lottery ticket - he’s one of the basketball player converts that could surprise. **RB Johnathan Stewart $16, Ryan Williams $11, Isaiah Pead $6, Alfred Morris $3, Javon Ringer $1.** I list the RB position late because that’s how I ended up addressing it in the draft. Just not enough resources spent here, I was hoping I’d dig up some value very late, but when the time came, everyone else was chasing after all the same potential sleepers and I couldn’t do much. Johnathan Stewart is pretty solid value at $16, Ryan Williams likely becomes a starting RB and therefore decent value at $11, but the upside there is pretty limited. I’m clearly just patching in whatever I can manage at that point. Isaiah Pead can be nothing or maybe he’ll be a Darren Sproles type presence in St. Louis. And at Steven Jackson has a decent chance of breaking down this year. Alfred Morris is a low cost ticket into the Shanahan Running Back Minigame. I don’t like playing it, but Morris looked good so far, and he’s exactly the sort of guy that springs up out of nowhere under Shanahan. Good gamble. Javon Ringer is a pure lottery ticket for a Chris Johnson injury. **K/DST David Akers $2, Denver $1** Not much to say. Akers was far and away the best kicker last year and has a decent shot of repeating, so I’m willing to spend 1 extra dollar to pick him up. Denver was basically the last of the $1 defenses available. I don’t like them much, but they’ve got potential. Overall, I like this team, but not as much as I’ve liked my past teams. My RB position is just too cobbled together. But a few things go my way - Green and Jones improve on their rookie season, Rodgers stays healthy, and one of those running backs becomes a solid starter, and my team is in good shape. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/109 "2012-09-05T22:39:44Z")
I’m not quite sure what to make of my team, in some ways. I think there’s some real possibilities there, but i also fucked a few things up, due partly to not paying attention. Anyway: **QB - Jake Locker $5, Mark Sanchez $5** Two QBS, neither one a stud, but neither a complete scrub either. Sanchez was 10th in Fantasy value among QBs last year, although i don’t expect him to be that high again. He gets killed by his turnovers - interceptions _and_ fumbles. Locker’s a gamble, but i thought that the chance he would have a good year made him (possibly) worth the money. He is, at worst, a decent backup option in a league where those can be hard to come by. **RB - Arian Foster $58, Maurice Jones-Drew $42, Daniel Thomas $4** Not to much to say about Foster. If he doesn’t get hurt, he should put up great numbers. A few people last night were of the opinion that I got him for a decent price (based on the size of the league, and his Yahoo valuation, i expected him to go for $65-70). Still, i wonder whether it might not have been better to spend less on a less valuable player, in exchange for more depth. Jones-Drew could end up being a bargain, or the exact opposite. He rushed for over 1600 last year, but is starting as a third-down back this week, and while he’s officially in front of Jennings on the depth chart, most commentators think that Jennings is really the main guy, for now at least. Thomas isn’t great, and even if he gets the same number of yards as last year, he’s not a guy they go to close to the line, so he’s not likely to bring much in the way of TDs. **WR - Wes Welker $38, Jon Baldwin $7, Doug Baldwin $6, Andre Roberts $2, Lee Evans $2** I’d be incredibly happy if Welker repeated his 2011 performance, but even if he regresses a bit to his usual numbers, he’s still a solid pick. Probably not the best value in the league, but i’m glad i’ve got him. The two Baldwins and Roberts will make up the rest of the WR corp. Doug is solid, and Jon could have an upside that will make him a good pickup. Roberts obviously won’t be a target anywhere near as often as Fitzgerald, but i hope he can improve on last year’s number in yards and TDs. Evans was a waste of money. He’s not even on a roster, and was NA when i bid. My fault for not paying attention, but i also think that Yahoo should make it impossible to nominate NA players in the draft. **TE - Dustin Keller $8, Ed Dickson $4** Pretty decent here, although two was maybe overkill. Keller’s a solid, consistent TE, and if his numbers keep improving the way they have over the past couple of years, i’ll be happy. Not sure i needed a backup, but Dickson might be worth having, maybe even as trade material. **K/DST Stephen Gostkowski $4, Detroit $5, Arizona $1** Happy enough with Gostkowski and Detroit, although probably should have paid less for them. Ended up with Arizona late because i nominated them without thinking, and of course no-one else was going to pay more than $1 for last year’s 22nd-ranked defense. My fault for not paying attention. If i have a regret about this draft, it’s that i should have spent a bit more on a more solid, mid-level WR and/or RB. I ended up with $9 left over, in addition to paying too much for my K/DST combo, so i could have done better. I guess i might end up regretting the route i went with my QB, but there are worse out there than Sanchez, and the backup could also contribute. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/110 "2012-09-05T23:22:02Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > That second list, with all the positions in cost order, was what I was looking for, thanks. But would you mind also posting each team’s results in one post for future reference?.. It is done. Sorted by Team Name alphabetically, then by position (alphabetically, despite telling Excel the specific order I wanted them in.), then by cost within that position. Again, the formatting’s going to suck. ```auto Position Drafted Player Team Position Cost Drafting Team 2 Pittsburgh Pit DEF $4 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 234 Nate Kaeding SD K $2 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 79 Matt Schaub Hou QB $19 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 261 Blaine Gabbert Jac QB $3 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 59 DeMarco Murray Dal RB $42 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 62 Fred Jackson Buf RB $34 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 184 Kevin Smith Det RB $17 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 243 Bilal Powell NYJ RB $3 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 116 Jahvid Best Det RB $2 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 216 Dallas Clark TB TE $2 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 201 Kellen Winslow Sea TE $2 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 13 Andre Johnson Hou WR $42 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 95 Robert Meachem SD WR $14 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 193 Devery Henderson NO WR $2 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 275 Vincent Brown SD WR $1 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 130 San Francisco SF DEF $10 Cobra Kai 210 Phil Dawson Cle K $1 Cobra Kai 110 Joe Flacco Bal QB $17 Cobra Kai 106 Stevan Ridley NE RB $20 Cobra Kai 105 David Wilson NYG RB $16 Cobra Kai 171 James Starks GB RB $6 Cobra Kai 225 LaMichael James SF RB $2 Cobra Kai 76 Jason Witten Dal TE $13 Cobra Kai 136 Tony Gonzalez Atl TE $13 Cobra Kai 125 Lance Moore NO WR $26 Cobra Kai 115 Reggie Wayne Ind WR $20 Cobra Kai 118 Titus Young Det WR $19 Cobra Kai 121 Sidney Rice Sea WR $17 Cobra Kai 137 Greg Little Cle WR $15 Cobra Kai 244 David Nelson Buf WR $4 Cobra Kai 282 Carolina Car DEF $1 Court Jesters 251 Oakland Oak DEF $1 Court Jesters 291 St. Louis StL DEF $1 Court Jesters 233 Lawrence Tynes NYG K $1 Court Jesters 63 Eli Manning NYG QB $37 Court Jesters 26 Trent Richardson Cle RB $38 Court Jesters 71 Frank Gore SF RB $29 Court Jesters 86 Mikel LeShoure Det RB $12 Court Jesters 124 Rashad Jennings Jac RB $10 Court Jesters 297 Anthony Fasano Mia TE $1 Court Jesters 113 Bear Pascoe NYG TE $1 Court Jesters 34 Greg Jennings GB WR $39 Court Jesters 53 Kenny Britt Ten WR $23 Court Jesters 236 Stephen Hill NYJ WR $2 Court Jesters 213 Mohamed Massaquoi Cle WR $1 Court Jesters 39 Seattle Sea DEF $5 Curry Porkrinds 199 New York NYJ DEF $3 Curry Porkrinds 19 Cam Newton Car QB $45 Curry Porkrinds 185 Josh Freeman TB QB $11 Curry Porkrinds 82 Shonn Greene NYJ RB $22 Curry Porkrinds 139 Cedric Benson GB RB $19 Curry Porkrinds 179 Robert Turbin Sea RB $4 Curry Porkrinds 159 Tyrell Sutton Sea RB $1 Curry Porkrinds 94 Greg Olsen Car TE $14 Curry Porkrinds 183 Tony Moeaki KC TE $7 Curry Porkrinds 98 Pierre Garcon Was WR $27 Curry Porkrinds 99 Torrey Smith Bal WR $25 Curry Porkrinds 239 Brandon LaFell Car WR $6 Curry Porkrinds 219 Braylon Edwards Sea WR $5 Curry Porkrinds 257 Harry Douglas Atl WR $1 Curry Porkrinds 158 Chicago Chi DEF $6 Evil Monkey 293 Billy Cundiff Was K $1 Evil Monkey 273 Mike Nugent Cin K $1 Evil Monkey 284 Nick Novak SD K $1 Evil Monkey 258 Rian Lindell Buf K $1 Evil Monkey 240 Shaun Suisham Pit K $1 Evil Monkey 74 Ben Roethlisberger Pit QB $17 Evil Monkey 56 Michael Turner Atl RB $34 Evil Monkey 20 Donald Brown Ind RB $16 Evil Monkey 140 Mike Tolbert Car RB $4 Evil Monkey 84 Jermaine Gresham Cin TE $8 Evil Monkey 14 Brandon Marshall Chi WR $39 Evil Monkey 36 Hakeem Nicks NYG WR $35 Evil Monkey 41 Mike Wallace Pit WR $34 Evil Monkey 133 Jerricho Cotchery Pit WR $2 Evil Monkey 287 Denver Den DEF $1 Exploding Pancakes 134 David Akers SF K $2 Exploding Pancakes 5 Aaron Rodgers GB QB $58 Exploding Pancakes 246 Ryan Tannehill Mia QB $1 Exploding Pancakes 96 Jonathan Stewart Car RB $16 Exploding Pancakes 170 Ryan Williams Ari RB $11 Exploding Pancakes 143 Isaiah Pead StL RB $6 Exploding Pancakes 166 Alfred Morris Was RB $3 Exploding Pancakes 263 Javon Ringer Ten RB $1 Exploding Pancakes 66 Vernon Davis SF TE $21 Exploding Pancakes 277 Jordan Cameron Cle TE $1 Exploding Pancakes 55 A.J. Green Cin WR $36 Exploding Pancakes 70 Julio Jones Atl WR $35 Exploding Pancakes 154 Kendall Wright Ten WR $7 Exploding Pancakes 226 DeVier Posey Hou WR $1 Exploding Pancakes 165 Green Bay GB DEF $5 Frosted_Lightning 245 Neil Rackers Was K $1 Frosted_Lightning 85 Alex Smith SF QB $11 Frosted_Lightning 187 Ryan Fitzpatrick Buf QB $11 Frosted_Lightning 15 Chris Johnson Ten RB $51 Frosted_Lightning 126 Isaac Redman Pit RB $14 Frosted_Lightning 127 Mark Ingram NO RB $12 Frosted_Lightning 294 Bernard Pierce Bal RB $1 Frosted_Lightning 77 Jermichael Finley GB TE $23 Frosted_Lightning 182 Coby Fleener Ind TE $4 Frosted_Lightning 65 DeSean Jackson Phi WR $31 Frosted_Lightning 167 Michael Crabtree SF WR $16 Frosted_Lightning 135 Santonio Holmes NYJ WR $13 Frosted_Lightning 180 Alshon Jeffery Chi WR $6 Frosted_Lightning 286 Emmanuel Sanders Pit WR $1 Frosted_Lightning 163 Cincinnati Cin DEF $4 Garcon's Cedilla 209 Mason Crosby GB K $2 Garcon's Cedilla 21 Michael Vick Phi QB $29 Garcon's Cedilla 207 Matt Cassel KC QB $9 Garcon's Cedilla 37 Steven Jackson StL RB $30 Garcon's Cedilla 131 C.J. Spiller Buf RB $16 Garcon's Cedilla 203 Shane Vereen NE RB $3 Garcon's Cedilla 97 Fred Davis Was TE $17 Garcon's Cedilla 260 Kellen Davis Chi TE $2 Garcon's Cedilla 17 Calvin Johnson Det WR $58 Garcon's Cedilla 156 Anquan Boldin Bal WR $15 Garcon's Cedilla 223 Jerome Simpson Min WR $8 Garcon's Cedilla 195 Rueben Randle NYG WR $4 Garcon's Cedilla 186 Josh Gordon Cle WR $2 Garcon's Cedilla 123 Kevin Ogletree Dal WR $1 Garcon's Cedilla 268 Kansas City KC DEF $4 Living Through Them 253 Shayne Graham Hou K $1 Living Through Them 1 Tom Brady NE QB $48 Living Through Them 91 Ahmad Bradshaw NYG RB $20 Living Through Them 93 Peyton Hillis KC RB $20 Living Through Them 150 Rashard Mendenhall Pit RB $15 Living Through Them 47 Aaron Hernandez NE TE $31 Living Through Them 198 Joel Dreessen Den TE $4 Living Through Them 58 Percy Harvin Min WR $34 Living Through Them 218 Austin Collie Ind WR $7 Living Through Them 148 Devin Hester Chi WR $6 Living Through Them 256 Jacoby Ford Oak WR $2 Living Through Them 119 Louis Murphy Car WR $2 Living Through Them 188 Ryan Broyles Det WR $2 Living Through Them 270 Keshawn Martin Hou WR $1 Living Through Them 264 Atlanta Atl DEF $2 No Use For A Name II 271 Greg Zuerlein StL K $1 No Use For A Name II 61 Tony Romo Dal QB $26 No Use For A Name II 206 Sam Bradford StL QB $6 No Use For A Name II 102 BenJarvus Green-Ellis Cin RB $22 No Use For A Name II 16 LeSean McCoy Phi RB $61 No Use For A Name II 157 Kendall Hunter SF RB $6 No Use For A Name II 189 Lamar Miller Mia RB $2 No Use For A Name II 250 Lance Kendricks StL TE $2 No Use For A Name II 83 Vincent Jackson TB WR $26 No Use For A Name II 68 Justin Blackmon Jac WR $18 No Use For A Name II 142 Nate Washington Ten WR $13 No Use For A Name II 217 James Jones GB WR $7 No Use For A Name II 266 Brian Quick StL WR $2 No Use For A Name II 255 Greg Salas NE WR $1 No Use For A Name II 178 Philadelphia Phi DEF $6 Not Sure 129 Sebastian Janikowski Oak K $2 Not Sure 38 Matt Ryan Atl QB $41 Not Sure 25 Darren McFadden Oak RB $46 Not Sure 50 Marshawn Lynch Sea RB $38 Not Sure 103 Roy Helu Was RB $10 Not Sure 205 Brandon Jacobs SF RB $4 Not Sure 173 Joseph Addai NE RB $4 Not Sure 144 Brent Celek Phi TE $8 Not Sure 152 Randall Cobb GB WR $11 Not Sure 155 Santana Moss Was WR $10 Not Sure 147 Mike Williams TB WR $8 Not Sure 200 Mario Manningham SF WR $5 Not Sure 232 Eddie Royal SD WR $4 Not Sure 281 Jason Avant Phi WR $2 Not Sure 168 New England NE DEF $4 Overly Sentimental 112 Miami Mia DEF $1 Overly Sentimental 192 Jason Hanson Det K $1 Overly Sentimental 67 Peyton Manning Den QB $32 Overly Sentimental 149 Russell Wilson Sea QB $8 Overly Sentimental 64 Reggie Bush Mia RB $26 Overly Sentimental 117 Willis McGahee Den RB $19 Overly Sentimental 9 Ronnie Brown SD RB $6 Overly Sentimental 267 Chris Rainey Pit RB $1 Overly Sentimental 42 Antonio Gates SD TE $29 Overly Sentimental 52 Dwayne Bowe KC WR $28 Overly Sentimental 78 Eric Decker Den WR $23 Overly Sentimental 132 Malcom Floyd SD WR $18 Overly Sentimental 228 Brandon Tate Cin WR $3 Overly Sentimental 290 Brian Hartline Mia WR $1 Overly Sentimental 92 Buffalo Buf DEF $6 Phoenix Redbirds 299 Graham Gano Was K $1 Phoenix Redbirds 249 John Kasay NO K $1 Phoenix Redbirds 69 Jay Cutler Chi QB $23 Phoenix Redbirds 109 John Skelton Ari QB $3 Phoenix Redbirds 40 Doug Martin TB RB $32 Phoenix Redbirds 120 Michael Bush Chi RB $10 Phoenix Redbirds 29 Toby Gerhart Min RB $10 Phoenix Redbirds 176 Tim Hightower Was RB $4 Phoenix Redbirds 49 Brandon Pettigrew Det TE $20 Phoenix Redbirds 296 Todd Heap Ari TE $1 Phoenix Redbirds 11 Roddy White Atl WR $39 Phoenix Redbirds 46 Jordy Nelson GB WR $36 Phoenix Redbirds 107 Michael Floyd Ari WR $8 Phoenix Redbirds 280 Terrell Owens Sea WR $1 Phoenix Redbirds 214 New York NYG DEF $4 Red Hochuli Peppers 241 Tennessee Ten DEF $2 Red Hochuli Peppers 194 Matt Prater Den K $2 Red Hochuli Peppers 87 Andrew Luck Ind QB $10 Red Hochuli Peppers 248 Brandon Weeden Cle QB $3 Red Hochuli Peppers 8 Darren Sproles NO RB $49 Red Hochuli Peppers 146 Ben Tate Hou RB $18 Red Hochuli Peppers 265 Leon Washington Sea RB $5 Red Hochuli Peppers 108 Dexter McCluster KC RB $3 Red Hochuli Peppers 153 Joe McKnight NYJ RB $3 Red Hochuli Peppers 18 Jimmy Graham NO TE $47 Red Hochuli Peppers 48 Dez Bryant Dal WR $32 Red Hochuli Peppers 88 Danny Amendola StL WR $10 Red Hochuli Peppers 279 Dwayne Harris Dal WR $1 Red Hochuli Peppers 208 Joshua Cribbs Cle WR $1 Red Hochuli Peppers 230 Detroit Det DEF $5 Return of Ryan Leaf 231 Arizona Ari DEF $1 Return of Ryan Leaf 220 Stephen Gostkowski NE K $4 Return of Ryan Leaf 111 Jake Locker Ten QB $5 Return of Ryan Leaf 160 Mark Sanchez NYJ QB $5 Return of Ryan Leaf 6 Arian Foster Hou RB $58 Return of Ryan Leaf 3 Maurice Jones-Drew Jac RB $42 Return of Ryan Leaf 212 Daniel Thomas Mia RB $4 Return of Ryan Leaf 202 Dustin Keller NYJ TE $8 Return of Ryan Leaf 238 Ed Dickson Bal TE $4 Return of Ryan Leaf 33 Wes Welker NE WR $38 Return of Ryan Leaf 104 Jon Baldwin KC WR $7 Return of Ryan Leaf 215 Doug Baldwin Sea WR $6 Return of Ryan Leaf 169 Andre Roberts Ari WR $2 Return of Ryan Leaf 73 Lee Evans Jac WR $2 Return of Ryan Leaf 269 Jacksonville Jac DEF $1 Rough and Tumblrs 252 Dan Carpenter Mia K $1 Rough and Tumblrs 4 Drew Brees NO QB $51 Rough and Tumblrs 28 Tim Tebow NYJ QB $2 Rough and Tumblrs 10 Ray Rice Bal RB $61 Rough and Tumblrs 114 Pierre Thomas NO RB $8 Rough and Tumblrs 211 Mike Goodson Oak RB $2 Rough and Tumblrs 300 Knowshon Moreno Den RB $1 Rough and Tumblrs 100 Jacob Tamme Den TE $12 Rough and Tumblrs 292 Dwayne Allen Ind TE $1 Rough and Tumblrs 45 Steve Smith Car WR $32 Rough and Tumblrs 138 Denarius Moore Oak WR $10 Rough and Tumblrs 174 Laurent Robinson Jac WR $10 Rough and Tumblrs 161 Randy Moss SF WR $7 Rough and Tumblrs 298 Joshua Morgan Was WR $1 Rough and Tumblrs 278 Minnesota Min DEF $1 Scissor Me Timbers 247 Garrett Hartley NO K $1 Scissor Me Timbers 43 Matthew Stafford Det QB $52 Scissor Me Timbers 295 Brady Quinn KC QB $1 Scissor Me Timbers 32 Jamaal Charles KC RB $36 Scissor Me Timbers 141 Jacquizz Rodgers Atl RB $14 Scissor Me Timbers 235 Evan Royster Was RB $3 Scissor Me Timbers 197 Taiwan Jones Oak RB $3 Scissor Me Timbers 289 Delone Carter Ind RB $2 Scissor Me Timbers 22 Rob Gronkowski NE TE $42 Scissor Me Timbers 31 Antonio Brown Pit WR $29 Scissor Me Timbers 172 Davone Bess Mia WR $10 Scissor Me Timbers 276 Golden Tate Sea WR $2 Scissor Me Timbers 288 Brandon Stokley Den WR $1 Scissor Me Timbers 227 Leonard Hankerson Was WR $1 Scissor Me Timbers 259 San Diego SD DEF $1 The Fleas (Wilson) 221 Rob Bironas Ten K $1 The Fleas (Wilson) 72 Robert Griffin III Was QB $15 The Fleas (Wilson) 190 Christian Ponder Min QB $7 The Fleas (Wilson) 30 Matt Forte Chi RB $51 The Fleas (Wilson) 27 Adrian Peterson Min RB $40 The Fleas (Wilson) 262 Bernard Scott Cin RB $2 The Fleas (Wilson) 283 Montario Hardesty Cle RB $2 The Fleas (Wilson) 285 Chris Ivory NO RB $1 The Fleas (Wilson) 272 Heath Miller Pit TE $2 The Fleas (Wilson) 191 Martellus Bennett NYG TE $2 The Fleas (Wilson) 57 Jeremy Maclin Phi WR $30 The Fleas (Wilson) 90 Brandon Lloyd NE WR $27 The Fleas (Wilson) 81 Stevie Johnson Buf WR $18 The Fleas (Wilson) 274 Steve Breaston KC WR $1 The Fleas (Wilson) 23 Houston Hou DEF $4 Unrelated Siblings 237 Dallas Dal DEF $3 Unrelated Siblings 54 Dan Bailey Dal K $3 Unrelated Siblings 224 Matt Bryant Atl K $2 Unrelated Siblings 229 Robbie Gould Chi K $2 Unrelated Siblings 51 Philip Rivers SD QB $33 Unrelated Siblings 254 Matt Flynn Sea QB $1 Unrelated Siblings 89 DeAngelo Williams Car RB $16 Unrelated Siblings 128 Felix Jones Dal RB $7 Unrelated Siblings 122 Alex Green GB RB $2 Unrelated Siblings 164 Owen Daniels Hou TE $7 Unrelated Siblings 151 Jared Cook Ten TE $4 Unrelated Siblings 35 Victor Cruz NYG WR $40 Unrelated Siblings 12 Marques Colston NO WR $36 Unrelated Siblings 44 Miles Austin Dal WR $30 Unrelated Siblings 196 Baltimore Bal DEF $7 Up By Three 242 Alex Henery Phi K $1 Up By Three 145 Carson Palmer Oak QB $9 Up By Three 60 Andy Dalton Cin QB $8 Up By Three 7 Ryan Mathews SD RB $45 Up By Three 80 Beanie Wells Ari RB $12 Up By Three 175 LeGarrette Blount TB RB $8 Up By Three 177 Ronnie Hillman Den RB $7 Up By Three 162 Jonathan Dwyer Pit RB $3 Up By Three 204 Kyle Rudolph Min TE $11 Up By Three 24 Larry Fitzgerald Ari WR $44 Up By Three 75 Demaryius Thomas Den WR $24 Up By Three 101 Darrius Heyward-Bey Oak WR $13 Up By Three 181 Nate Burleson Det WR $4 Up By Three 222 Steve Smith StL WR $4 Up By Three ``` ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/111 "2012-09-05T23:23:48Z")
Can we include FAAB money in trade deals? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/112 "2012-09-05T23:27:29Z")
Yeah I don’t see why not. I think we created that rule back with Court Jesters was trying to build up his team when he autodrafted via FAAB dollars, so I think it’s still in effect. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/113 "2012-09-06T00:52:24Z")
Since everyone else is doing a self-review… I wasn’t kidding when I said I wouldn’t hate this team in a 14-team league. I’ve got shit for depth, but I am genuinely happy with every starter. **QB - Matt Schaub $19, Blaine Gabbert $3** Schaub is a top 10 fantasy quarterback with one knock: health. I was willing to spend big on Ryan Fitzpatrick given that, but not what he went for. So I took Gabbert, who… has a job, and might surprise me with a greatly upgraded receiving corps and a rusty ball-hogging tailback. I bet he won’t, though. I was willing to go cheap at QB given that this format basically forces you to skimp at some positions. **RB - DeMarco Murray $42, Fred Jackson $34, Kevin Smith $17, Bilal Powell $3, Jahvid Best $2** Here’s where the money went, and boy did I get some bang for my buck. All three of my primary backs could end up in the top 10, and two probably will. I would have preferred to have a better fourth option than Powell, but it would have cost me dearly. **WR - Andre Johnson $42, Robert Meachem $14, Devery Henderson $2, Vincent Brown $1** In a three-wide league, you’ve got to have star, and AJ is it. Having Schaub and him on the same team is a risk considering that both lose lots of value if the other gets hurt, and both are injury risks. Still, nothing ventured… Meachem looked like more and more of a steal as the draft wore on and other guys with similar value went for twice as much. Henderson will give me 500 yards and a couple of touchdowns at worst, and might finally break out without Meachem in town running the same routes. Brown will theoretically be back in Week 8, which means I’ll be starting a waiver scrub in Weeks 6-7 when my WR byes begin. **TE - Dallas Clark $2, Kellen Winslow $2** Yeah, I totally goofed on Winslow. No matter. I got a steal on Clark. He’s all but forgotten in fantasy, but he’s playing with Josh Freeman, who sometimes appears to forget that players other than tight ends are eligible receivers. He ain’t gonna score, but he’ll rack up catches. **K - Nate Kaeding $2** He plays in constant 72-degree weather with a high-powered offense, and he’s the most accurate kicker in history. The only thing that would make him better is a dome. **DEF - Pittsburgh $4** This was kind of an impulse bid in the early going that worked out brilliantly. They were the second-best fantasy defense last year and came at less than half the price of San Fran and nearly half the price of Baltimore. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/114 "2012-09-06T02:16:08Z")
As I said earlier I like my team, and I think barring injury could compete. My strategy is usually grab a stud RB, a few mid level players, and then look for players which provide depth at a value. \*\*QB- Tony Romo $26, Sam Bradford $6 \*\* I know a lot of people hate Romo, but a Qb with a season stat line of +4,000yrd, 31 td’s, and 10 int’s is great for $26 with other similar Qb’s going for a little more. \*\*RB - LeSean McCoy $61, BenJarvus Green-Ellis $22, Kendall Hunter $6, Lamar Miller $2, \*\* I grabbed McCoy as my “stud” this year for more then I was looking to spend for him personally. For that price I’d rather have Rice or Foster (which was a little cheaper), but they went earlier in the draft when I was still trying to figure this years market. Green-Ellis is decent at $22, I took a flyer on Reggie Bush not getting through 2 seasons in a row unscathed and drafted Miller. \*\*WR - Vincent Jackson $26, Justin Blackmon $18, Nate Washington $13, James Jones $7, Brian Quick $2, Greg Salas $1 \*\* I don’t like Jackson for $26, but I didn’t have a WR yet and panicked. They were coming off the board for more then I had anticipated, but looking back there was still better value on the board such as Stevie Johnson for $18. Blackmon I think will end up being good at $18, I’ve watched a few of the Jag’s preseason games and they look a lot better this year. Nate Washington could be a steal at $13 if Kenny Britt ends up murdering someone. I took a couple high ceiling picks with Jones and Salas (high ceiling because of who is tossing the ball around, not because of them personally). **TE - Lance Kendricks $2** I pretty much punted on the TE position. But Kendricks certainly has the talent to produce this year. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/115 "2012-09-06T05:58:14Z")
Updated FAAB money to reflect unspent draft money. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/116 "2012-09-06T15:22:58Z")
I just want to mention how sneaky Cobra Kai’s strategy of showing up halfway through the draft and buying everybody was, once peoples budgets had been spent. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/117 "2012-09-06T15:50:48Z")
I don’t think he actually planned on that, did he? Anyway, his team isn’t very good. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/118 "2012-09-06T19:05:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t think he actually planned on that, did he? Anyway, his team isn’t very good. No, I don’t think so. Just making a joke. I do think that considering he missed out on all the top players, the team he put together isn’t bad. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/119 "2012-09-06T21:46:58Z")
**Garcon’s Cedilla** ’s $1 outlay for Kevin Ogletree is looking pretty damn good right now. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394/120 "2012-09-06T23:12:05Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > **Garcon’s Cedilla** ’s $1 outlay for Kevin Ogletree is looking pretty damn good right now. Yahoo shows his “Started” percentage as 0%, by the way. Guess who’s facing his team this week…? \ I doubt **Garcon’s** would have started him, had his $8 purchase of Jerome Simpson panned out. Oh well; everyone’s got a bad beat story. I hope I’m just getting mine out of the way early in the season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2012/628394.md?page=7)