# SDMB Big League fantasy football 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 6, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184 "2015-08-06T19:50:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/41 "2015-08-30T23:55:26Z")

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You should be able to view the draft from last year’s league page.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/42 "2015-08-31T00:05:52Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> but I’m guessing our values may be somewhat lower than the norm due to larger roster size…

There is twice as much money in the system than in a 10-team league. Prices are vastly increased as a result. Go through the league history through Yahoo to see previous draft results to get a (very) good idea of how these things progress.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/43 "2015-08-31T02:26:21Z")

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Definitely higher values. AP went for $65 last year versus a Yahoo average price of $49 or so.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/44 "2015-08-31T02:59:55Z")

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[This post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17700086&postcount=28) lists the draft results from last year. It should give you a decent idea on prices. Budget total is a normal $200.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/45 "2015-08-31T06:06:08Z")

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Very enlightening. Thanks all.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/46 "2015-08-31T06:23:18Z")

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Question–should the PAT points be adjusted with the new rule?

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/47 "2015-08-31T06:43:23Z")

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What would we have to do to make player values equivalent to a standard sized league? I guess reduce budgets to $120 so that there’s the same amount of money to go around as in a 12-man league. I’m sure we’ve had this conversation before at some point.

Oakminster: Maybe, actually, since a missed PAT is worth a sizable -3 penalty. Maybe reduce it -2 or -1?

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/48 "2015-08-31T12:16:56Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> What would we have to do to make player values equivalent to a standard sized league? I guess reduce budgets to $120 so that there’s the same amount of money to go around as in a 12-man league. I’m sure we’ve had this conversation before at some point.

There is no good way to do it. You have a higher amount of people fighting over a fixed amount of goods (players). You could lower the budgets, but you’d still have higher then average costs.

If you look at previous drafts I’d wager you could just add 25% to the yahoo amounts and you would be close.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/49 "2015-08-31T14:06:20Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> [This post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17700086&postcount=28) lists the draft results from last year. It should give you a decent idea on prices. Budget total is a normal $200.

Damn. Considering how much I spent on Montee Ball I did pretty well to finish fifth.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/50 "2015-08-31T14:06:29Z")

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Plus , each auction is different. Are QBs going fast and are owners trying to get 2 starters? With 20 teams, there aren’t enough starters to go around, plus factoring in messy situations such as Washington, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Houston

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/51 "2015-08-31T15:09:14Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> [This post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17700086&postcount=28) lists the draft results from last year. It should give you a decent idea on prices. Budget total is a normal $200.

Maybe this year I’ll be good about not over spending on a RB. I’m amazed I finished in 4th spending that much on McCoy.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/52 "2015-08-31T15:32:58Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> What would we have to do to make player values equivalent to a standard sized league? I guess reduce budgets to $120 so that there’s the same amount of money to go around as in a 12-man league.

This definitely had a benefit in that autodrafting would be viable but my concern is the loss of granularity at the end of the draft. Because this league is spread so thin we have a lot more battling at the end of the draft with bidding wars for $1-4 and I’m concerned those wouldn’t be granular enough with smaller budgets.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/53 "2015-08-31T15:56:01Z")

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Does Yahoo allow you to specify that smaller increments will be available? Like, players with under (say) $10 can bid in quarters?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/54 "2015-08-31T16:04:29Z")

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I’ve never seen a setting like that, so probably not.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/55 "2015-09-01T20:02:25Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> [This post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17700086&postcount=28) lists the draft results from last year. It should give you a decent idea on prices. Budget total is a normal $200.

If we’re doing retrospectives, Cruz for $31 was terrible, and my QB situation was pretty scary, but DeMarco was the stud to own, and I got some fantastic bargains with $11 Lamar Miller, $6 Chris Ivory, and $8 Kelvin Benjamin.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/56 "2015-09-01T22:50:10Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Very enlightening. Thanks all.

Also, join at least one mock draft. You’ll want to be familiar with the basic mechanics of Yahoo’s auction draft. In a 20 team league, vast considerable amounts of time can be wasted simply waiting for people to nominate someone for bid. If it’s your turn and you don’t have someone queued up yet, you lose an immeasurably minuscule amount of strategic position by putting the highest ranked player up for $1 (i.e. just nominate someone that will get bid on, even if you don’t really want him - because you won’t get him at just $1).

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/57 "2015-09-03T03:54:09Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Also, join at least one mock draft. You’ll want to be familiar with the basic mechanics of Yahoo’s auction draft.

I did that earlier this evening. The mechanics are simple enough, not sure about the strategy part, though. It seemed to me that guys were way over spending for 2-3 players, and then having $30 left to fill out their rosters.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/58 "2015-09-03T03:58:34Z")

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That’s a viable strategy. RNATB just did that in the all pro league draft. Think of it like a snake draft where you could choose your own picks. Would you rather have 3 first-round picks but have to fill out the rest of your roster with 12th-15th round guys? Or would you rather have a roster full of guys who’d be 4th round picks? Or are you trying to get a feel for the flow of the auction and what people can spend and what they need and strike when you can get the best values? There are all sorts of strategies you can do in an auction draft that are viable if you do them well.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/59 "2015-09-03T04:09:54Z")

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For the record, I didn’t plan on drafting that way. There were just some good early values (compared to last year). I’ll be in trouble unless one of my WR lottery tickets pans out, but it one does, you guys are effed.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2015/727184/60 "2015-09-03T14:31:51Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Also, join at least one mock draft. You’ll want to be familiar with the basic mechanics of Yahoo’s auction draft. In a 20 team league, vast considerable amounts of time can be wasted simply waiting for people to nominate someone for bid. If it’s your turn and you don’t have someone queued up yet, you lose an immeasurably minuscule amount of strategic position by putting the highest ranked player up for $1 (i.e. just nominate someone that will get bid on, even if you don’t really want him - because you won’t get him at just $1).

This is the most important thing to know going into the draft. Have someone ready to put forward when it’s your turn. Just pick someone at the top of the list if your not sure. You aren’t going to get them for a dollar anyway.

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