# SDMB Big League Fantasy Football 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 3, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638 "2016-08-03T14:56:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/81 "2016-10-18T17:47:21Z")

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brickbacon and I are officially in a horse race as he gives me my first loss. Normally I would be happy with 5-1 halfway through the season, but 13th place is only 2 games back, so it’s still anyone’s game. Especially since I’m about to head into a rough stretch of bye weeks.

In other news, Carolina has reminded me why I usually don’t spend a lot for defense.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/82 "2016-10-20T18:45:02Z")

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Trade. Up By Three gives up Brock Osweiler for Fourth and Nineteen’s Tannehill.

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**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/83 "2016-10-26T03:31:20Z")

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Jay Ajayi on the trading block.  
I’d like to get two solid starters or I’ll put him with another guy for an all-star.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/84 "2016-10-26T13:28:53Z")

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I’ll give you Antonio Brown for him and a WR2.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/85 "2016-11-01T19:13:24Z")

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I have been shafted by my matchups this year. I seem to get quite a few people on the one week where they put up a big score.

For a while, i was looking at my own team and assuming that it just wasn’t that good. But after 8 weeks, i’m 4th in total scoring. Actually, for all intents and purposes, equal third, because the guy ahead of me is beating me by 1/100th of a point.

But i am also first, by a considerable margin, in points against. In a league where the average total points per team is 810 (or about 101 points per game), i’ve had 928 points scored against me (about 116 points per game). My closest rival in points against is about 60 points behind me in that category.

It ain’t right, i tell ya! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/86 "2016-11-01T20:04:34Z")

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If it makes you feel any better, **Overly Sentimental** is _first_ in points yet has a losing record.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/87 "2016-11-01T20:06:06Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> If it makes you feel any better, **Overly Sentimental** is _first_ in points yet has a losing record.

😕 Not sure what you’re looking at, but neither of those things is true.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/88 "2016-11-03T00:39:04Z")

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Ugh I must’ve cycled through 6 garbage WRs in the last 2 weeks

Quinton Patton  
Josh Huff  
Justin Hunter  
Andre Roberts  
Corey brown  
Dontrelle Inman (probably the best of the batch)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/89 "2016-11-11T10:53:31Z")

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The trade deadline is one setting yahoo doesn’t retain from year to year when you renew the league. Our rule has been to extend the trade deadline as long as yahoo allows, which is 2 weeks from now. I forgot to make that setting in the beginning of the year, so I am now. The earlier trade deadline is mostly to protect against shenanigans in yahoo public leagues - since no one is going to be doing anything funky I see no reason why we shouldn’t extend it out further.

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**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/90 "2016-11-15T23:33:56Z")

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I feel like I ask this every year but I can never remember: the playoffs are the four division winners and then the next four by record regardless of division, right?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/91 "2016-11-15T23:47:09Z")

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Usually yes, but not this year. We decided not to do divisions, but I was too late to adjust the setting, so what we did instead was just to not give division winners a playoff seed, making divisions meaningless. The top 8 seeds will go to the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/92 "2016-11-16T03:53:44Z")

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Cool.

If you haven’t been following the Browns DST, they’re having a truly awful season. They’re on pace for -31.00 points. For reference, the worst team the past couple seasons has finished with around +30.00 points.  
They had their forth best game of the season last week, and they scored zero.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/93 "2016-11-16T04:33:55Z")

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As of this moment, the “division leaders” would all make the playoffs.

One thing i’ve noticed over the past few weeks is that it’s quite common to have a game where two of the highest scoring players play against one another, meaning that some poor bastard who has a really good week still loses because he plays against one of the only teams that scored more points.

In Week 9, for example, i beat the Rough and Tumblrs, and yet the Rough and Tumblrs had the third highest score of the week. They had a 17/19 chance of playing a lower-scoring team that week, but happened to match up against one of the two teams who scored more points.

Similarly in Week 10, Rough and Tumblrs beat Exploding Pancakes, and Exploding Pancakes had the third-highest score of the week. Matched up against almost anyone else, the Exploding Pancakes would have won, but instead had to take a loss despite scoring over 125 points.

Then, at the other end of the scale, you sometimes see people winning games with scores of 70 or 75, because they luck out and get matched against someone with an even lower score.

I’m no expert on probability. I wonder if this sort of thing is a likely outcome when you have 20 teams, or if these situations are surprising and unusual.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/94 "2016-11-16T22:07:42Z")

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With 10 games a week we have 140 matches until we hit the playoffs, so it’s not unexpected at all to have things like the 2nd highest team facing the highest. It’s just the nature of head to head matchups. It perverts the overall system a bit by adding another random element that can screw someone (compared to just doing a points league), but people just aren’t engaged enough week to week unless you’re playing head to head, so it’s a necesary evil.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/95 "2016-11-16T22:53:14Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> With 10 games a week we have 140 matches until we hit the playoffs, so it’s not unexpected at all to have things like the 2nd highest team facing the highest. It’s just the nature of head to head matchups. It perverts the overall system a bit by adding another random element that can screw someone (compared to just doing a points league), but people just aren’t engaged enough week to week unless you’re playing head to head, so it’s a necesary evil.

One thing I’ve seen in other leagues to get around the “luck” element while still keeping people engaged, is to give the final playoff spot to the team remaining with the most points scored, regardless of record.

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**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/96 "2016-11-17T01:47:55Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> One thing I’ve seen in other leagues to get around the “luck” element while still keeping people engaged, is to give the final playoff spot to the team remaining with the most points scored, regardless of record.

I’m a huge fan of that. In fact, we should institute it immediately in all leagues. \<Cough\>all-pro!\</cough\>

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/97 "2016-11-17T14:38:50Z")

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That’s a really good idea.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/98 "2016-11-22T16:56:23Z")

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Well, I somehow manage to hang onto the #1 spot and clinch a playoff spot, but with no A.J Green I’m in some trouble.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/99 "2016-11-23T00:49:41Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> One thing I’ve seen in other leagues to get around the “luck” element while still keeping people engaged, is to give the final playoff spot to the team remaining with the most points scored, regardless of record.

We are trying this in a league I run for the first time this year. My only issue with it is the commissioner can’t just select who goes to the playoffs at which seed, so I will have to manually monkey with game results. It isn’t a big deal, but it just feels wrong

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**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-big-league-fantasy-football-2016/761638/100 "2016-11-24T04:16:53Z")

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> [@Taber](#):
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> We are trying this in a league I run for the first time this year. My only issue with it is the commissioner can’t just select who goes to the playoffs at which seed, so I will have to manually monkey with game results. It isn’t a big deal, but it just feels wrong

I do this in another league I run on Y!, and as of last year at least, there’s no way to alter the playoff teams. So I wrote a bracket out with pencil and paper, put it on a photo share site, and posted the link. A little annoying, but I also sort of like making brackets.

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