# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1981 "2012-06-18T18:26:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Later on in your link it says “A clear consensus has not been reached” about the origins of the Yayoi and the Jomon people. But the author didn’t use the word [“may”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15179457&postcount=1948), so **NDD** is still free to treat it as an undisputed fact for as long as it’s convenient to his case for him to do so. BTW, anybody want to start a pool on when this “Stupid NDD Argument Of The Day” thread will catch up to the postcount of “Stupid Republican Idea Of The Day”? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1982 "2012-06-18T18:29:32Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > This is a minority viewpoint, expressed in only one book. It deserves to be viewed with skepticism. So saith he who drags _The Ten Thousand Year Pot-Cracking_ into every thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1983 "2012-06-18T18:36:02Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The ancestors of the Japanese immigrated from the mainland of Asia, where they had practiced civilization for at least a thousand years before iron age technology reached western Africa. And then they…forgot how to forge iron? For centuries? I thought they were supposed to be uber smartz? But sure, if you cherry pick, ad hoc and true scotsman enough you’ll find everything fits your conclusions. Other people may find it comical when your own cites say that SS Africa was one of the first places to forge iron and refine it to high quality carbon steel, but no problem: you can blank them out like everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1984 "2012-06-18T18:39:27Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Although the article says that the book will be translated from French to English in 2002, I was not able to find mention of the English translation. Unless someone else can find it I will suspect that there was no English translation, because the assertions made in the book are dubious. I guess that the assertions made in _L’Effroyable imposture_ must not be at all “dubious”, since that book _was_ translated into English (under the title of _9/11: The Big Lie_). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1985 "2012-06-18T18:44:08Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The **ancestors of the Japanese immigrated** from the mainland of Asia, where they had practiced civilization for at least a thousand years before iron age technology reached **western Africa**. Is there some specific line between “identify by geographic location only” (west of the line) and “trace back mass migrations” (east of the line)? How do you deal with people who migrate across the line? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1986 "2012-06-18T18:47:26Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > And then they…forgot how to forge iron? For centuries? I thought they were supposed to be uber smartz? Back then, they had an average IQ of 54. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1987 "2012-06-18T19:19:13Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > This is the scholarly consensus. It clearly points out that the ancestors of American Negroes were stone age peoples until the 5th century BC. By then Caucasians and Chinese were building great civilizations. The Iliad and the Odyssey as well as much of the Old Testament had already been written. In China The Book of Songs had been written and edited. You were more fun to play with back when you were pretending to think that you had an actual, reasonable point to make. Now you’re just boring, repeating the same old dumbshittery in every post. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1988 "2012-06-18T19:25:09Z")
Hmm. Has anyone else noticed that whenever someone asks a question which demolishes NDD’s entire point of view, it gets completely ignored, while arguments that really shouldn’t be necessary to begin with get addressed extensively? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1989 "2012-06-18T19:37:16Z")
> [@Who\_me?](#): > > Point and look at the retard I’ve volunteered at places with individuals with Down’s Syndrome. They’d never use the term “anti-racist” as an epithet. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1990 "2012-06-18T19:52:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Later on in your link it says “A clear consensus has not been reached” about the origins of the Yayoi and the Jomon people. > > It seems obvious you’re ignoring any data that doesn’t fit your narrative. And you’re ignoring questions that challenge it. Like what race are the Bamileke of Cameroon and the Kikuyu of Kenya? What matters is that the ancestors of the Japanese left the stone age much much earlier than the ancestors of American Negroes. That is why the Japanese responded peacefully to the tsunami of 2011, while blacks took advantage of the breakdown of law and order during the 2005 Katrina Hurricane to engage in an orgy of looting. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1991 "2012-06-18T19:55:26Z")
_\ rape of Nanking \_ Or has the Japanese Race[sup]TM[/sup]as a whole evolved that much in 60 years. ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1992 "2012-06-18T19:57:12Z")
Yes, yes we know…black people loot, while white people[find](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/black-people-loot-food-wh_b_6614.html)… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1993 "2012-06-18T20:05:48Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > What matters is that the ancestors of the Japanese left the stone age much much earlier than the ancestors of American Negroes. And then the Japanese “regressed” back to the “stone age”, while sub-Saharan Africans raced ahead of them. And you still haven’t answered my question about Bamileke and Kikuyu. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1994 "2012-06-18T20:15:03Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > _\ rape of Nanking \_ > Or has the Japanese Race[sup]TM[/sup]as a whole evolved that much in 60 years. Also, apparently, white people don’t riot over food but [ice hockey](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Riot). No doubt this is because such a high-minded intellectual pursuit naturally engenders great emotion among spectators such that impasses can only be resolved physically. No need for a natural disaster to create extreme conditions (or false news stories) when there’s ice hockey about. Also, as NDD would no doubt point out, dog breeders have worked wonders in 4 generations, so obviously, we can convert the genetics of an entire population (including the non-trivial number of people who have already been born) in 2 or 3 generations. But maybe there’s something to NDD’s assertions. I’m one of those “Orientals”, and I like to think (and I think I can get some backing on this from the board) that I could kick his ass in a scientific debate any given day of the week, with a Saturday encore. I think a fifth of scotch would be a good handicap for me, too. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1995 "2012-06-18T20:17:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And then the Japanese “regressed” back to the “stone age”, while sub-Saharan Africans raced ahead of them. When did that happen? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1996 "2012-06-18T20:22:39Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > When did that happen? They didn’t start working with metal until about [100 BC](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_japan#Yayoi_period). And I’m going to keep asking about the Bamileke and Kikuyu until you address it. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1997 "2012-06-18T20:39:39Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > I like to think (and I think I can get some backing on this from the board) that I could kick his ass in a scientific debate any given day of the week, with a Saturday encore. I think a fifth of scotch would be a good handicap for me, too. I got a perfect score on this test: > **[Quiz: How much do you know about science?](https://www.pewresearch.org/science/quiz/science-knowledge-quiz/)** > > Test your knowledge of science facts and applications of scientific principles by taking our 11-question quiz, then compare your answers to the average American and across demographic groups. But then again, so did ten percent of those who took it. If you are so scientifically literate, why can’t you explain the persistence of significant racial differences without attributing much of the differences to genetics? You may feel brave when you are part of a screaming mob of the politically correct. You would not be impressive before an audience of those who were unbiased, and trying to decide the importance of genetics in human affairs. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1998 "2012-06-18T20:43:57Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > If you are so scientifically literate, why can’t you explain the persistence of significant racial differences without attributing much of the differences to genetics? But the “racial differences” part doesn’t make sense at all. How could such a huge genetic variety as sub-Saharan Africa all have the “dumb genes”, when many of these populations are more closely related to non African populations (without the “dumb genes”) than to other “Negro” populations? And do you consider Bamileke and Kikuyu the same race? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1999 "2012-06-18T20:45:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > They didn’t start working with metal until about [100 BC](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_japan#Yayoi_period). > > And I’m going to keep asking about the Bamileke and Kikuyu until you address it. The people using the metal had immigrated from the mainland of Asia where they had been using it for much longer. If the question is important ask it again. I have more important things to do than read every insult directed against me, as well as every rhetorical question, every cliche, and every logical fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2000 "2012-06-18T20:45:35Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I got a perfect score on this test: > > [Science Knowledge Quiz | Pew Research Center](http://pewresearch.org/sciencequiz/quiz/index.php) > > But then again, so did ten percent of those who took it. That test is _incredibly easy_. I think a fifth grader who paid attention in class should be able to ace it with very little effort. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=101)