# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2061 "2012-06-19T03:10:21Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > This question itself shows your lack of scientific understanding or rigor. I know you don’t see why and frankly I don’t care anymore, as you are a dishonest poster. But for the benefit of any audience that may still be confused and for the general good… I posted a long, detailed, and polite criticism of his scientific method over in the [GD thread,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15168075&postcount=574) which thread has thankfully finally dropped off the front page. It was, of course, completely and totally ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2062 "2012-06-19T03:17:20Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Currently the Scandinavians have low crime rates. A possible explanation for the difference between now and 1,200 years ago is that the more aggressive males went on the raiding parties where most of them got killed, or settled elsewhere. The more peaceful males stayed home to tend the farm. > > Civilization began in Egypt and in what is now Iraq. Egypt has a low crime rate, despite a low standard of living. > > [List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate) You’re just making shit up. I can do that too. A possible explanation for the difference between **NDD** and other posters in this thread is that **NDD** was dropped on his head when he was a baby. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2063 "2012-06-19T03:20:08Z")
So you’re going with the ‘single concussion’ theory, then? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2064 "2012-06-19T03:38:16Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > You’re just making shit up. I can do that too. > > A possible explanation for the difference between **NDD** and other posters in this thread is that **NDD** was dropped on his head when he was a baby. That, or he’s black. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2065 "2012-06-19T03:47:57Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > How is brazil84 lying? 😕 Either your lone ally in this thread is a lying troll, or a science denying anthropomorphic global warming denying retard. Either way, not the best endorsement for you. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2066 "2012-06-19T04:25:41Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > How is brazil84 lying? 😕 You do realize that Brazil84 is under the impression that Jews on the West Bank will soon outnumber Palestinians on the West Bank because they supposedly have much higher birthrates. He’s lots of things, but he’s not rational nor is he reality-based. Now if you wish to ally yourself with someone that ignorant you certainly can, but it doesn’t say much for you. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2067 "2012-06-19T07:03:03Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I have even read of a Negro tribe in southern Africa that has practiced a form of Judaism for centuries, and that has genetic markers that point to Israel three thousand years ago. You “have read”? That’s one way of putting it - _I_ posted links in these very threads, more than once, you disingenuous shit. > [@](#): > > They are believed to have been converted by Jewish traders at some time in the past, who had some children by them. That’s not at all what _they_ or the genetics say, where the hell did you get such a self-serving explanation from? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2068 "2012-06-19T08:16:06Z")
Hey guys, I’ve got an idea. Let’s all start quoting good posts and points until NDD starts replying to them. No new debates, no new questions, just showing him the refutations of his retarded worldview until he either addresses them, or gives it a rest, because I, for one, and sick to death of watching him ignore essentially complete refutations. Anyone with me here? Let’s start with this. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > This question itself shows your lack of scientific understanding or rigor. I know you don’t see why and frankly I don’t care anymore, as you are a dishonest poster. But for the benefit of any audience that may still be confused and for the general good… > > As explained earlier (in this thread and the GD thread), there are several problems with this question. > > 1. You haven’t shown that your concept of “races” are genetically based, beyond superficial physical clues, like skin color. > > In fact, it ignores several the counter-examples given. For example, under your morphology (I almost hesitate to use this word as your definition leaves much to be desired), the San, Yoruba, Ibo, and Bantu are “black”. But, as shown numerous times in this thread and others, the genetic expression of their skin color, eye color, hair color, and other primary characteristics that make them both “black” to you are expressed differently genetically. In fact, the San are notably lighter skinned than several other sub-Saharan populations, which apparently isn’t important in your racial classification but is genetically significant. > > And, as pointed out earlier, some of these groups are more closely related to Europeans/Asian population groups than other sub-Saharan groups. Apparently, this also doesn’t make a difference, but you haven’t explained how or why they are or aren’t significant. > > 1. As I granted, maybe there is a correlation between racial genetics and intelligence. But you haven’t defined what genetic components define race nor shown that such genetic components are correlated with intelligence. > > It is a poor scientist that has no better definition than “I know it when I see it”. > > Of all genetic markers, you opt for primarily skin, hair, and eye color. Yet you don’t even realize that even among sub-Saharan Africans, the genetics that control for these can differ greatly among different populations. > > I, for one, have been waiting weeks for such evidence that has been controlled for any other possible factors (environment, economics, etc), yet no such experiments have been given. > > 1. Even if there can be shown to be a correlation with biology (which you haven’t done yet), you haven’t shown a correlation that is genetic without being biological. I’ve personally brought this point up at least twice, and it hasn’t been addressed at all. > > Remember that genetics are NOT the end-all, be-all of biology. I’ve given several examples of traits which are biological but not genetic. Other posters have also given examples of traits which are inheritable but not genetic. > > Heck, fetal alcohol syndrome is a perfect example. It affects the intelligence of a child but is biological without being genetic. > > Beyond the lack of even biological evidence, where is the evidence that there is a genetic, rather than biologic factor at play? > > 1. Even if there can be shown to be a correlation beyond biology to genetics (which, again, you haven’t done yet), you haven’t shown a direction. This comes back to the concept of controls. Are there are factors correlated with, even if unrelated to, with genetics that need to be eliminated as factors? You presume not, but you haven’t shown any evidence for it. > > If you have a hypothesis that is not generally accepted, you don’t start out by assuming what you want. You assume the status quo. That’s called the Null Hypothesis. It’s the job of the scientist to show that a new hypothesis is true to a statistically significant level. > > Just because a new cancer drug apparently “works” on 2 patients doesn’t mean it’s any good. That’s why trials take years and involve many more patients. Likewise, if you want to advance a theory for which you’ve yet to show direct genetic evidence (though mixed with lots of circumstantial evidence, errors, uncorrected for other factors, and a lot of dumb to boot), it’s on you to provide that direct genetic evidence. > 5) As to my own qualifications, do you mean to ask if I’m a card carrying scientist? Well, yes I am (by “card” I mean an advanced degree). Of course, on the internet, that could also mean I’m an unemployed, uneducated slob getting my kicks by screwing with people, but I think a simple search of any/all posts I’ve made relating to mathematical/scientific topics aren’t going to show any contradictions with that background. > > Basically, the proof is in the pudding. I’m not the one who’s demonstrated a lack of knowledge of science (vs knowledge of science facts). There’s a difference between knowing a bunch of trivia about science and being any good at doing science. That concept seems to elude you, somehow. Ken Jennings can probably give me a bunch of trivia about geophysics or mathematics that I did not know, but I bet I can actually DO geophysics or mathematics better than he can. Plz respond, NDD? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2069 "2012-06-19T08:46:51Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Hey guys, I’ve got an idea. > > Let’s all start quoting good posts and points until NDD starts replying to them. No new debates, no new questions, just showing him the refutations of his retarded worldview until he either addresses them, or gives it a rest, because I, for one, and sick to death of watching him ignore essentially complete refutations. Anyone with me here? > > Let’s start with this. > > Plz respond, NDD? > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI&feature=g-u-u](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI&feature=g-u-u) I have many times. Race is a useful biological classification. The different races differ in average ability levels and behavior. Because these differences are the same throughout the world, and have been throughout history, it is almost certain that the differences are primarily genetic and intractable. These differences reflect different population pressures lasting for centuries in the case of the Ashkenazim, and for thousands of years in the case of the three major races. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2070 "2012-06-19T08:51:17Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I have many times. Race is a useful biological classification. The different races differ in average ability levels and behavior. Because these differences are the same throughout the world, and have been throughout history, it is almost certain that the differences are primarily genetic and intractable. These differences reflect different population pressures lasting for centuries in the case of the Ashkenazim, and for thousands of years in the case of the three major races. Except that if you watched the video, you’d realize: – No it isn’t – No, they don’t – No, they aren’t – No, that’s not true either – Wrong – There are not 3 major races; there are closer to 600. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2071 "2012-06-19T08:53:13Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Either your lone ally in this thread is a lying troll, or a science denying anthropomorphic global warming denying retard. > > Either way, not the best endorsement for you. There is also Chen. Nationally there are millions, perhaps tens of millions who know that what we say about the biological reasons for racial differences is true. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2072 "2012-06-19T08:54:39Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > You’re just making shit up. I can do that too. I am composing hypotheses for what is known to be true. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2073 "2012-06-19T08:57:54Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > – There are not 3 major races; there are closer to 600. There are three major races of Caucasians, Mongoloids, and Negroes. There are a few races like the Australian Aborigines, that cannot be easily included in one of these. Within the three major races are additional sub races, such as the Orientals, the Ashkenazim, and the American Indians. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2074 "2012-06-19T09:04:44Z")
The New York Times April 28, 2009 The achievement gap between white and minority students has not narrowed in recent years, despite the focus of the No Child Left Behind law on improving the scores of blacks and Hispanics, according to results of a federal test considered to be the nation’s best measure of long-term trends in math and reading proficiency… Although Black and Hispanic elementary, middle and high school students all scored much higher on the federal test than they did three decades ago, most of those gains were not made in recent years, but during the desegregation efforts of the 1970s and 1980s. That was well before the 2001 passage of the No Child law, the official description of which is “An Act to Close the Achievement Gap.” > **[‘No Child’ Law Is Not Closing a Racial Gap (Published 2009)](https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/education/29scores.html)** > > Between 2004 and last year, scores for young minority students increased on a federal test, but so did those of white students. * * * This makes sense from a biological standpoint. Under Jim Crow schools for blacks were less well funded. When educational conditions became more equal black scores improved somewhat. Little more improvement is happening. Little more should be expected. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2075 "2012-06-19T09:07:48Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > There are three major races of Caucasians, Mongoloids, and Negroes. There are a few races like the Australian Aborigines, that cannot be easily included in one of these. Within the three major races are additional sub races, such as the Orientals, the Ashkenazim, and the American Indians. What race are the Hausa and Mandenka? I guess you’ve resigned yourself to the fact that many populations of “Negro” are closer, genetically, to “Caucasians” and “Mongoloids” than to other “Negroes”. Obviously you’ve accepted that “race” is not a valid genetic classification scheme. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2076 "2012-06-19T09:15:30Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I have many times. Race is a useful biological classification. The different races differ in average ability levels and behavior. Because these differences are the same throughout the world, and have been throughout history, it is almost certain that the differences are primarily genetic and intractable. Race is not a useful biological classification, considering that the “races” as you use them are not coherent, discrete entities, genetically speaking. You’ve shown no evidence that the different “races” differ in average ability levels and behavior- only an achievement gap. You’ve shown no evidence that these differences are the same “throughout the world”- in fact much of the evidence presented, by you as well as others, says the opposite- the achievement gap does not exist everywhere (but you dismiss any contrary information), and in at least one situation the achievement gap is reversed. You have no evidence of an achievement gap “throughout history”- much less even before the last 50 years or so. You’re historical “evidence” seems to consist of pointing to which countries have high standards of living and low crime- “evidence” that until 60 years ago or so would point to “Asian” inferiority. And you’ve shown zero genetic evidence. You still insist that “blacks” must all share these (evidence-free) genes, despite that many “black” populations are closer to “white” and “Asian” populations than to other “black” populations. You’ve shown a very unscientific closed mind- the only data you’re interested in is data that supports your explanation. Any conflicting data (and we’ve presented lots) is dismissed. And you still go back to poisoned wells of data like Lynn’s manufactured, baseless IQ “estimates”. What race are the Hausa and Mandenka? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2077 "2012-06-19T09:16:50Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The achievement gap between white and minority students has not narrowed in recent years, despite the focus of the No Child Left Behind law on improving the scores of blacks and Hispanics, according to results of a federal test considered to be the nation’s best measure of long-term trends in math and reading proficiency… So…are Hispanics negro now? Or is this another of your cites that refutes your own point? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2078 "2012-06-19T09:17:48Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The New York Times April 28, 2009 > > The achievement gap between white and minority students has not narrowed in recent years, despite the focus of the No Child Left Behind law on improving the scores of blacks and Hispanics, according to results of a federal test considered to be the nation’s best measure of long-term trends in math and reading proficiency… > > Although Black and Hispanic elementary, middle and high school students all scored much higher on the federal test than they did three decades ago, most of those gains were not made in recent years, but during the desegregation efforts of the 1970s and 1980s. That was well before the 2001 passage of the No Child law, the official description of which is “An Act to Close the Achievement Gap.” > [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/education/29scores.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/education/29scores.html) > > * * * > > This makes sense from a biological standpoint. Under Jim Crow schools for blacks were less well funded. When educational conditions became more equal black scores improved somewhat. Little more improvement is happening. Little more should be expected. Of course, the NAEP studies (as well as scientists like Flynn) show that the achievement gap is shrinking, and “black” scores are improving. But you just dismiss any conflicting data. What race are the Hausa and Mandenka? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2079 "2012-06-19T09:22:15Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > There are three major races of Caucasians, Mongoloids, and Negroes. There are a few races like the Australian Aborigines, that cannot be easily included in one of these. Within the three major races are additional sub races, such as the Orientals, the Ashkenazim, and the American Indians. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teyvcs2S4mI) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/teyvcs2S4mI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Science of Human Races, Part 1") 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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2080 "2012-06-19T09:33:51Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Of course, the NAEP studies (as well as scientists like Flynn) show that the achievement gap is shrinking, and “black” scores are improving. But you just dismiss any conflicting data. NAEP studies show very slight reductions in the race gap. The race gap in SAT scores is increasing. > **[Fast Facts: SAT scores (171)](https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171)** > > The NCES Fast Facts Tool provides quick answers to many education questions (National Center for Education Statistics). Get answers on Early Childhood Education, Elementary and Secondary Education and Higher Education here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=105)