# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2141 "2012-06-19T16:09:17Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I do not make appeals to emotion. Those who flame me for telling the truth reveal how hateful they are. Bwa ha haaa! 🙂 Sure we are hateful :sarcasm: many like me are actually laughing at you. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2142 "2012-06-19T16:13:11Z")
Ah I had missed the post where we found that NDD believes the movies of \*\*\*Tarzan \*\*\*are documentaries. It makes his understandings of Africa much more amusing. Cannibalism. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2143 "2012-06-19T16:13:49Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > NDD- are you going to respond at all to my criticism of your “three races” based on the phyogenetic tree? Your silly little tree is difficult to read and irrelevant to the reality that whites and Orientals perform and behave better on the average than any black race or sub race. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2144 "2012-06-19T16:14:14Z")
“What we need is a real dialogue on race in which it will be safe to discuss black social pathology and the enduring race gap in intelligence and performance.” Well, almost. What we need is a real dialogue that can at least be based upon fundamental scientific truths, not YOUR disinformation. “Silly little tree”, indeed. Facts, we don’t need no stinkin’ FACTS. We got opinions! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2145 "2012-06-19T16:17:15Z")
Hard to take somebody seriously when they’re admitting they’ve been outwitted by a tree. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2146 "2012-06-19T16:17:46Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > 
 > > - Charles Murray, from “The Inequality Taboo” > [The Inequality Taboo, by Charles Murray](http://www.bible-researcher.com/murray1.html) > > * * * > > What we need is a real dialogue on race in which it will be safe to discuss black social pathology and the enduring race gap in intelligence and performance. And encore, we have no science, no genetics. We have American politics, and a citation to an american political scientist who I have come to understand is socially reactionary. All NDD really is caring about is the socialogical and the political that he contines to deceive himself into thinking is the genetic question. And he remains silent on the refutations, the low crime of some african countries, and how strangely the standards of what is black shift and flow without any objective standard, so Egypt is only white, Morocco is only white because that is what is needed for his scheme. Magnifiicent in its illogics. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2147 "2012-06-19T16:18:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Hard to take somebody seriously when they’re admitting they’ve been outwitted by a tree. QFT ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2148 "2012-06-19T16:20:16Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Ah I had missed the post where we found that NDD believes the movies of \*\*\*Tarzan \*\*\*are documentaries. > > It makes his understandings of Africa much more amusing. Cannibalism. In the 1980s, MĂ©decins Sans FrontiĂšres, the international medical charity, supplied photographic and other documentary evidence of ritualized cannibal feasts among the participants in Liberia’s internecine strife to representatives of Amnesty International who were on a fact-finding mission to the neighboring state of Guinea. However, Amnesty International declined to publicize this material; the Secretary-General of the organization, Pierre Sane, said at the time in an internal communication that “what they do with the bodies after human rights violations are committed is not part of our mandate or concern”. The existence of cannibalism on a wide scale in Liberia was subsequently verified.[128] The self-declared Emperor of the Central African Republic, Jean-BĂ©del Bokassa (Emperor Bokassa I), was tried on October 24, 1986 for several cases of cannibalism although he was never convicted.[129][130] Between April 17, and April 19, 1979 a number of elementary school students were arrested after they had protested against wearing the expensive, government-required school uniforms. Around 100 were killed. Bokassa is said to have participated in the massacre, beating some of the children to death with his cane and allegedly ate some of his victims.[131] Cannibalism has been reported in several recent African conflicts, including the Second Congo War, and the civil wars in Liberia and Sierra Leone. A UN human rights expert reported in July 2007 that sexual atrocities against Congolese women go “far beyond rape” and include sexual slavery, forced incest, and cannibalism.[132] This may be done in desperation, as during peacetime cannibalism is much less frequent;[133] at other times, it is consciously directed at certain groups believed to be relatively helpless, such as Congo Pygmies, even considered subhuman by some other Congolese.[134] It is also reported by some that witch doctors sometimes use the body parts of children in their medicine.[135] In the 1970s the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin was reputed to practice cannibalism.[136][137] In Uganda, the Lord’s Resistance Army routinely engage in ritual or magical cannibalism.[138] > **[Cannibalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism)** > > Cannibalism is the act of consuming another individual of the same species as food. Cannibalism is a common ecological interaction in the animal kingdom and has been recorded in more than 1,500 species. Human cannibalism is also well documented, both in ancient and in recent times. > The rate of cannibalism increases in nutritionally poor environments as individuals turn to members of their own species as an additional food source. Cannibalism regulates population numbers, whereby resources suc... ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2149 "2012-06-19T16:21:08Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I do not make appeals to emotion. Those who flame me for telling the truth reveal how hateful they are. We flame you because rational discussion with you is worthless because you won’t accept anything but your discredited pet theories. The only thing to do is to call you an ignorant racist and make fun of you. Go and be the racist you so much desire to be, no one here can change that. But most everyone here can make fun of you for it. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2150 "2012-06-19T16:26:48Z")
Sadly, when fighting ignorance, we must sometimes admit defeat. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2151 "2012-06-19T16:29:19Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Your silly little tree is difficult to read and irrelevant to the reality that whites and Orientals perform and behave better on the average than any black race or sub race. My “silly little tree” demonstrates how completely unscientific your “three races” categorization is. And your dismissal of my “silly little tree” shows how unscientific your own thought process is. Your “races” do not exists as discrete genetic groupings. You have no genetic evidence of any difference intelligence between populations, much less your nonexistent “races”. All you have is an achievement gap that is, by many measures, shrinking. And your own biases and prejudices which are open for all to see. What experiences have you had with black people that have had the most impact on your way of thinking? Were you assaulted? Was someone close to you the victim of a crime? It’s obvious that it’s not any scientific evidence that has led you to your conclusions (since you ignore the vastly greater amounts of data that contradict many of your claims, and that you have zero data for most of the rest), so I bet it was personal experience. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2152 "2012-06-19T16:29:47Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Why does the non race of Negroes need special preferences in order to achieve diversity and inclusion? When are those people going to behave and perform as well as whites and Orientals? Another fifty years? Another five hundred years? I would like an estimate. Again though you jump to generalizing language. Clearly it is not the case that all black people perform or behave worse than whites. I myself am an example of a successful black man that received no affirmative action or the like (also I’m a member of mensa). Even if it were irrefutably shown that black average IQ is lower than whites’ there would be huge amounts of overlap and many outliers. Personally I’m inclined to not give a toss about averages, just try to make the playing field as fair as possible (i.e. no AA) and if green people do less well than blues on average, so what? It’s not like every blue could look at any green and say “You are inferior to me”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2153 "2012-06-19T16:31:43Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Your silly little tree is difficult to read and irrelevant to the reality that whites and Orientals perform and behave better on the average than any black race or sub race. [Truthiness!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness) > [@Wikipedia](#): > > Truthiness is a quality characterizing a “truth” that a person claims to know intuitively “from the gut” or because it “feels right” without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts. Yep, sounds about right. > [@Little Nemo](#): > > Hard to take somebody seriously when they’re admitting they’ve been outwitted by a tree. I’m picturing something like [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDMEX57Lyc) (starting at about 1:15 to 1:40). ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2154 "2012-06-19T16:32:38Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > We flame you because rational discussion with you is worthless because you won’t accept anything but your discredited pet theories. The only thing to do is to call you an ignorant racist and make fun of you. > > Go and be the racist you so much desire to be, no one here can change that. But most everyone here can make fun of you for it. That and my meta point that has not been refuted at all stands: If the interpretation of the evidence that NDD and brasil84 claim was the truth then there should be easy to publish their theories in a scientific publication for all their peer researchers to evaluate
 Of course the probability of that taking place is less than zero so yeah NDD, go and be the racist you much desire to be; after all, Nowhere land will be less lonely when you have a few birds of a feather giving you company, as for the rest, scientists, active researchers, educators and many people of reason will continue to go forth to [del]Pepperland[/del] the land of progress. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2155 "2012-06-19T16:33:57Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Your silly little tree is difficult to read and irrelevant to the reality that whites and Orientals perform and behave better on the average than any black race or sub race. Except that they don’t, as has been shown repeatedly. You must be getting carpal tunnel syndrome from handwaving away so many cites. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2156 "2012-06-19T16:34:54Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Your silly little tree is difficult to read and irrelevant to the reality that whites and Orientals perform and behave better on the average than any black race or sub race. Et voilĂ , we have the truth. NDD does not desire science and data, he wants to erect his provincial backwards American political problems as some kind of Truth. Now we must ask him to explain the Roma populations who are Asian of origin, and should be standing out, but in fact are perceived in Europe and the Arab world where they are spread as being essentially criminals. These contradictions always these contradictions. It is also amusing to think of how he will explain ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2157 "2012-06-19T16:57:06Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Et voilĂ , we have the truth. > > NDD does not desire science and data, he wants to erect his provincial backwards American political problems as some kind of Truth. > > Now we must ask him to explain the Roma populations who are Asian of origin, and should be standing out, but in fact are perceived in Europe and the Arab world where they are spread as being essentially criminals. > > These contradictions always these contradictions. > > It is also amusing to think of how he will explain By broaching trivial points you try to avoid looking at the big picture. The big picture is that whites and Orientals perform and behave better than all the other races on the average. That can be explained by the biological histories of the various races, sub races, and hybrid races. The fewer generations separate a race from stone age savagery, the more savage that race behaves. What do you have to say about cannibalism in Africa? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2158 "2012-06-19T17:01:40Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > What do you have to say about cannibalism in Africa? I’m against it. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2159 "2012-06-19T17:02:36Z")
> [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > Except that they don’t, as has been shown repeatedly. > > You must be getting carpal tunnel syndrome from handwaving away so many cites. Where is the evidence that blacks behave and perform as well as whites on the average? 😕 Because that evidence does not exist, when will it? Another fifty years? Another five hundred years? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2160 "2012-06-19T17:05:43Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Where is the evidence that blacks behave and perform as well as whites on the average? 😕 > > Because that evidence does not exist, when will it? Another fifty years? Another five hundred years? 😕 Where’s the evidence that any of this is genetic? I think that comes before anyone providing evidence to counter what has not, as yet, been proven. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=107) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=109)