# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2241 "2012-06-20T10:23:34Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> The point is that even with arbitrarily defined “Races,” it’s still logically possible to (1) observe average differences between those races; and (2) conclude that much of the difference is due to genetics.
> 
> I take it you agree with this?

Since you persist in this nonsense: 1) is “logically possible” dependent on the size of the populations and the degree of different you consider statistically significant.

1. is not remotely logically possible under the terms you’ve given. You can conclude that much of the difference is due to genetics, but it wouldn’t be a logical conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2242 "2012-06-20T10:30:35Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> In your view, is the “Race 1” I defined earlier a “genetic group”?

No.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2243 "2012-06-20T10:30:52Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> You’ve never debated the race and intelligence issue with anyone besides me and NDD?
> 
> I have a hard time believing that.

If anything, it’s surprising that a second one showed up out of any specific crackpot fringe. It’s not as if there were all that many of you, or the moon-landing hoaxers, or the 9-11 truthers, or the Kennedy=assassination conspiracy theorists, or the water-fluoridation alarmists, or whatever.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2244 "2012-06-20T10:37:53Z")

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> [@Waenara](#):
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> Yeah - I can’t imagine how he doesn’t sprain something in his brain with all those contortions and mental gymnastics going on up there.

It’s easy once one has slipped the surly bounds of logic and touched the face of chaos.

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2245 "2012-06-20T11:21:02Z")

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NDD, you are a retarded racist ignorant prick – better shut the fuck up, because everything you say is idiotic, stupid and only makes sense to other retards.

You are trying and failing, to make a point about blacks being inferior to whites via your unfounded pseudo-science.

You only convinced me about the following; that you are in fact a stupid individual.

Simply just admit that you are a racist.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2246 "2012-06-20T11:22:59Z")

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> [@Doughbag](#):
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> Simply just admit that you are a racist.

You’re just saying that because you’re an anti-racist.

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2247 "2012-06-20T11:28:06Z")

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> [@Doughbag](#):
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> NDD, you are a retarded racist ignorant prick – better shut the fuck up, because everything you say is idiotic, stupid and only makes sense to other retards.
> 
> You are trying and failing, to make a point about blacks being inferior to whites via your unfounded pseudo-science.
> 
> You only convinced me about the following; that you are in fact a stupid individual.
> 
> Simply just admit that you are a racist.

Oh, sorry… I forgot you **brazil84** … you’re the other retard

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2248 "2012-06-20T11:31:34Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> You’re just saying that because you’re an anti-racist.

Not really, but I try not to make excuses for my weirdness with pseudo-science and I’m not blaming genetics for NDD’s & Brazil84’s shortcomings

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2249 "2012-06-20T11:38:25Z")

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84 in honour of Aliens3

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2250 "2012-06-20T11:49:55Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Let’s gently take your definitions and repackage them back over to you; keeping it on an honest mark with the assertion of this thread and the OP; no obfuscation:
> 
> Race 1) {Negroes}
> 
> Race 2) {Orientals}
> 
> Race 3) {Caucasians}
> 
> We’ll start with just two simple, and honest questions:
> 
> 1. Genetically, how should we define each of the races you insist exist? That is, by what genetic criteria is each to fall under, at the minimum?
> 
> 2. Failing genetics, how is someone like myself supposed to determine, with accuracy, which race some individual should fall under?

I was considering entering the thread with something very similar to this, so I’ll just wait to see what response it generates, if any.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2251 "2012-06-20T11:53:33Z")

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It will generate the “questions” he believes are clever but in fact show he does not understand. **[84](http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Francis_Aaron).**

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2252 "2012-06-20T12:05:14Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> 84 in honour of Aliens3

That’s as valid as any argument as anything NDD and Brazil have come up.

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**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2253 "2012-06-20T12:58:08Z")

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This thing is still going at 46 pages? When this started I figured 10 to 12 pages tops. That has seemed to be the point when dopers would realize that there is no defeating willful ignorance/stupidity and throw in the towel. I’m impressed at the level of commitment.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2254 "2012-06-20T13:09:37Z")

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Well, _I_ might be taking the characterization of non-White Africans as subhuman moronic cannibals a _leeetle_ personally.

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2255 "2012-06-20T13:27:20Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Well, _I_ might be taking the characterization of non-White Africans as subhuman moronic cannibals a _leeetle_ personally.

Even with all the genetic evidence you’ve seen presented here to prove it? 🙂

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**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2256 "2012-06-20T13:35:00Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Well, _I_ might be taking the characterization of non-White Africans as subhuman moronic cannibals a _leeetle_ personally.

My god man, it’s a miracle you can even post! You must be a hell of an outlier.

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2257 "2012-06-20T13:41:35Z")

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> [@cards](#):
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> My god man, it’s a miracle you can even post! You must be a hell of an outlier.

Or even read this forum!!!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2258 "2012-06-20T13:41:39Z")

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> [@cards](#):
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> This thing is still going at 46 pages? When this started I figured 10 to 12 pages tops. That has seemed to be the point when dopers would realize that there is no defeating willful ignorance/stupidity and throw in the towel. I’m impressed at the level of commitment.

It’s an alluring trap, because both \*\*NDD \*\*and **84** display a rudimentary ability to string sentences together, which gives the false impression that with enough patience and good information they might be reasoned with.

**NDD** is obviously beyond saving, but I feel I owe \*\*84 \*\*something of an apology. What I mistook for simple willful obstinacy is clearly a fundamental inability to understand the arguments being proposed to him. It would be nigh impossible to state things any clearer than **Heart of Dorkness** did, and yet he still fails to understand why his position is fatally flawed. Yes, he’s a racist and probably a thoroughly loathsome person in real life, but it’s a direct result of an unfortunate life spent struggling to make sense of the world around him using the extremely limited tools he’s been given. Ironically, I suspect genetics are at least partially to blame for his disability.

He’s like a smug half-wit who’s concluded that the music from his radio comes from tiny people playing tiny instruments inside the receiver. Ignoring every patient attempt to explain the rudiments of radio technology, he instead tirelessly steers the conversation toward whether musical instruments produce music and whether (contrary to the pernicious claims of the human-size-egalitarianists) some people are in fact smaller than others and can occasionally be quite small indeed. He’s sure that if he can just get his opponents to concede these simple facts, they’ll be forced to admit that his Tiny Band Theory is the correct one.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2259 "2012-06-20T13:44:45Z")

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> [@cards](#):
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> My god man, it’s a miracle you can even post! You must be a hell of an outlier.

I’m a credit to my race.

It must be the tiny amount of Oriental genes I have.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2260 "2012-06-20T13:51:03Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’m a credit to my race.

So, I’ve always wondered, does human flesh _really_ taste like chicken? Or is that an urban myth? Do you cook it in a sauce or use a dry rub or something?

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