# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/221 "2012-05-31T22:01:25Z")
**New Deal Democrat** is a great user name for you, because the New Deal made a point to exclude blacks from its benefits. Feel proud that you’re part of a decades old tradition of hatred. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/222 "2012-05-31T22:16:28Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Are you under the impression that dumb people cannot shoot or bomb smart people? I was making an off-hand remark in a pit thread. I spent the amount of intellectual firepower in making that remark as I felt was commensurate to the original piece of idiocy to which I was replying (that is to say, not very much at all). Sure - “dumb people can shoot or bomb smart people”. However, it takes smart people to come up with the novel ways in which that bombing or shooting is done. In the cases I mentioned, that would be [deep-sea iron warships](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_%281839%29) and [atomic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy) [bombs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Man). > [@](#): > > Yeah cuz when the Romans conquered the Greeks it was because of Rome’s intellectual sueriority. :rolleyes: In the fields of political and military science, it most certainly was. > [@](#): > > And if those standardized IQ scores were not the best predictors we have on a whole range of other things then i would also be inclined to dismiss those scores as meaningless but high IQ scores mean more than the ability to take IQ tests well. I never said I thought IQ tests were worthless (though their worth in discussing genetic theories of intelligence is highly suspect). I said that the differences observed between different national or racial groups on these tests do not support a predominantly genetic basis for those differences. Culture, broadly speaking, is far more important than genes. > [@](#): > > But do you think genetics might explain any of that discrepancy? See above (yes). > [@](#): > > I remember reading somewhere that the average IQ of subsaharan africans was somewher around 65. That would put the average subsaharan african was moron level mentally retarded. Its hard to believe that these test scores have any validity. Yes, I agree. And let me repeat - “Sub-Saharan Africans have been cursed by their geography, not their genes.” ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/223 "2012-05-31T22:20:22Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > However you define “racism” you will probably agree that there is less of it now than in 1960. Unfortunately, black rates of crime are higher than they were then. Black rates of illegitimacy are much higher. There has been little improvement in academic performance. Of course there is less racism today than 50 years ago. When you popint out that crime rates and teenage pregnancies among blacks are higher today than 50 years ago, are you saying that blacks have gotten stupider? I don’t think you are saying that blacks havea ctually gotten stupider over the last 50 years and that has cuassed higher rates of incarceration and teen pregnancy. Couldn’t whatever is causing the higher ratesd of teen pregnancy and crime also be stunting whatever progress you might have expected from the lower levels of racism in society today. I think you could make a good argument that the black community suffers from self inflicted wounds but i think its hard to say that the black community simply isn’t capable of doing better than they are doing now because they are just too stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/224 "2012-05-31T22:21:04Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The dogma that the races were equal grew out of a revulsion against the racial policies of the Nazis. As more time passes that revulsion will fade. And… you say that like it’s a _good_ thing? That our current social consensus that Nazi racial policies are worthy of revulsion is somehow misplaced? What the fuck is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/225 "2012-05-31T22:29:08Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > My parents raised me not to dislike blacks, and to believe that the differences between blacks and whites were minimal and due to racial discrimination. I still will not dislike a black person because the person is black. However, I have learned that the differences are fairly significant, and do not seem to be diminishing. Okay, I’ll give you some credit for this one. So many racists retreat behind the excuse of “I grew up in a different time” and “that’s the way I was raised”. You deserve credit for the fact that you’re willing to let your parents off the hook for your racism and take full responsibility upon yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/226 "2012-05-31T22:32:04Z")
What are your qualifications to interprete the science? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/227 "2012-05-31T22:33:03Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > What matters is that expensive efforts to bridge the race gap in academic performance _always fail_. Really? They always fail? You’re claiming that no black person has ever graduated from college or obtained any success in an academic or professional field? You think there are no black doctors or black lawyers or black engineers or black scientists or black professors? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/228 "2012-05-31T22:34:23Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Sure, what’s the problem with it? > > Is it your position that if Person X is less intelligent than Person Y, then Person X is necessarily inferior to Person Y? Yes. And you know damn well that’s the case in the context of this discussion, or you and your JAQoff buddies wouldn’t expend so much effort trying to show scientificamally (with charts and figgers and everything!) that blacks are less intelligent. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/229 "2012-05-31T22:37:43Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > What are your qualifications to interprete the science? I can read and I can think. Now since you think you are qualified, please explain why racial differences in average ability levels and behavior are so durable. If the differences are due to different environments, why are they not more malleable? Also, why do some racial groups - Ashkenazim and Chinese for example - create thriving environments wherever they live and move, even when they are poor? Does a superior environment create a superior people, or does a superior people create a superior environment? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/230 "2012-05-31T22:40:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Really? They always fail? You’re claiming that no black person has ever graduated from college or obtained any success in an academic or professional field? You think there are no black doctors or black lawyers or black engineers or black scientists or black professors? I am talking in terms of averages. There are black doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, and professors. These demonstrate that talented blacks can rise. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/231 "2012-05-31T22:50:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Okay, I’ll give you some credit for this one. So many racists retreat behind the excuse of “I grew up in a different time” and “that’s the way I was raised”. > > You deserve credit for the fact that you’re willing to let your parents off the hook for your racism and take full responsibility upon yourself. My parents grew up in the north and had little contact with blacks. So did I until I became an adult. As time went on my parents and I became disenchanted with the collective black response to the opportunities that were opened to then by the civil rights legislation. My attitude toward the Negro race is one of disappointment and personal betrayal. I feel that they have substantiated arguments I argued against when I was growing up. It wasn’t supposed to turn out like this. When blacks were given equal rights they were supposed to respond with equal responsibility. Instead, the result of the civil rights legislation and the war on poverty was five years of black ghetto rioting, more durable increases in black social pathology, and what seems to be a widening gap in academic performance. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/232 "2012-05-31T22:51:41Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I am talking in terms of averages. There are black doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, and professors. These demonstrate that talented blacks can rise. And there are far more black doctors, engineers, etc, then there were 50 years ago. What does this demonstrate? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/233 "2012-05-31T22:54:52Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > And… you say that like it’s a _good_ thing? That our current social consensus that Nazi racial policies are worthy of revulsion is somehow misplaced? > > What the fuck is wrong with you? The revulsion against the Holocaust made it fashionable to deny and ignore truths that had always been obvious. It is worth mentioning that the Holocaust was directed against the most superior racial group in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/234 "2012-05-31T23:02:03Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The revulsion against the Holocaust made it fashionable to deny and ignore truths that had always been obvious. It is worth mentioning that the Holocaust was directed against the most superior racial group in the world. More lies and delusions. You are one demented asshole. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/235 "2012-05-31T23:02:55Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Couldn’t whatever is causing the higher ratesd of teen pregnancy and crime also be stunting whatever progress you might have expected from the lower levels of racism in society today. I think you could make a good argument that the black community suffers from self inflicted wounds but i think its hard to say that the black community simply isn’t capable of doing better than they are doing now because they are just too stupid. By nearly every criteria I can think of black culture has declined since the civil rights legislation was passed. Soul music was a phenomena of the 1960s and early 1970s, but compare it with rap music. I do not see how whites can be blamed for the increase in black social pathology since the civil rights legislation was passed. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/236 "2012-05-31T23:04:02Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > More lies and delusions. You are one demented asshole. What did I say that is not true? You are an abusive child who is incapable of debating controversial topics in an intelligent and civil manner. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/237 "2012-05-31T23:07:12Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And there are far more black doctors, engineers, etc, then there were 50 years ago. What does this demonstrate? It demonstrates that the civil right legislation has opened opportunities for blacks who have the personal merit to take advantage of them. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/238 "2012-05-31T23:08:11Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I can read and I can think. So far you’ve offered little evidence of the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/239 "2012-05-31T23:13:06Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > What did I say that is not true? You are an abusive child who is incapable of debating controversial topics in an intelligent and civil manner. 1. That these “truths” exist. 2. That they are “obvious”. 3. That there is in fact one racial group which is the most “superior” in the world. 4. That Jews comprise this “superior” group. (No offense intended to Jews, of course.) You are a fucking retard who will never realize what a waste you have made of the little good sense with which you have been endowed. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/240 "2012-05-31T23:16:22Z")
Blacks are stupid because some nerdy white guy doesn’t like rap music? Makes about as much sense as everything else, I suppose. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=13)