# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 127
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2523 "2012-06-26T11:30:15Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > I guess, but then again you are a racist – that’s it! > > Whatever argument you try to bring up, this is what it boils down to – you are a racist. If you define “racist” to include people who believe that blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites, then yes, I am a racist. > [@](#): > > Don’t try to make excuses for it. No excuse is needed to believe in the truth. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2524 "2012-06-26T11:31:37Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > If you define “racist” to include people who believe that blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites, then yes, I am a racist. I can’t think of a definition of racist that _wouldn’t_ ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2525 "2012-06-26T11:42:22Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > If you define “racist” to include people who believe that blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites, then yes, I am a racist. That is the very definition of racism. Of course it has been shown here by many citations that there is no coherent ‘black race’ by genetic evidences and that there is yet no genetic evidences that are clear about intelligence or anything that can let us say there is distribution by regional populations even if we can suspect it is possible. We have, as in the Han chinese case that was presented that **84** made his best efforts to ignore for his various excuses of “banning” others (who highlight his idiocy, this he calls ‘strawmanning’) that even in a case where a certain set of markers can identify most Han, who are a very specific population, there is a significant minority for which this is not true. And what is the response from\*\* 84?\*\* The hypotheses and the analogies like as to cancer and smoking that only serve to show that he does not have the most basic understanding of scientific research. > [@](#): > > No excuse is needed to believe in the truth. A true Believer, with his religion as Racism. Mangificent. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2526 "2012-06-26T11:44:21Z")
It is also very humourous to see how _84 **works so hard to avoid making a clear definition of his races, and tries to only respond with hisquestions so that he can avoid being caught in his contradictions, yet he states directly blacks are inferior to whites. He can not define his races, but he** Believes_\*\* in them. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2527 "2012-06-26T12:18:47Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > He understands. He doesn’t comprehend. How dare you make me think of River in conjunction with this dishonest troll. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2528 "2012-06-26T12:26:11Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > How dare you make me think of River in conjunction with this dishonest troll. Tell me, are you familiar with the works of Xiang Yu? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2529 "2012-06-26T13:30:46Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, i.e. I have dared to point out the fallacies advanced by the politically correct. You forgot to enclose “fallacies” in quotation marks, and the word “politically” is superfluous. Otherwise, above average work. Particularly like the use of “Lol,” which I understand is quite hot lately among the tweeners. Sincerely, _Your Editor_ ---
**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2530 "2012-06-26T13:33:22Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > If you define “racist” to include people who believe that blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites, then yes, I am a racist. [Hee hee hee.](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism) > [@](#): > > rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm] > noun > > 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others. Okay, man; I’ll confess - you got me. I always thought you _might_ just be messing around with us, but I admit that I did indeed entertain the possibility that you were sincere. When you wrote those posts using eye color as an example, _supposedly_ not understanding that they actually disprove your point, I thought, “Okay, he’s either trying to see how long he can string this along, or he’s playing “dumb racist” in order to elicit intelligent responses for the benefit of any _real_ dumb racists who might happen along.” But _even then_, I still thought that maybe, just maybe, you were actually that dumb. But it’s impossible to misinterpret a “wink” this big. I get it. I still can’t tell if you’re trying to serve as a teaching tool, or just trolling for own amusement, but I guess it doesn’t really make a difference. Either way, this has been a really educational thread, so thanks for that, and keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2531 "2012-06-26T13:35:19Z")
Won’t someone – anyone – apologize to **brazil84?** It’s all he’s ever wanted. In fact, allow me: **brazil84,** I’m sorry for engaging in pages upon pages of vivisecting your arguments because of your utter lack of ability to comprehend even the most basic of statements without you obsessing over semantics and being, well shit, can I use the word ‘genius’ when it comes to being obtuse? On top of your debilitating ignorance, you have my pity. In that, I’m gravely sorry for your disabilities. Now, go play in the mud… (isn’t he cute?) ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2532 "2012-06-26T13:40:10Z")
Trolls don’t “ignore” people, but astoundingly dumb people do. If anything, he’s more of a cautionary tale to not drink the pretty, shiny liquid inside a mercury thermometer. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2533 "2012-06-26T13:42:52Z")
> [@Waenera](#): > > Your position is that “blacks” are less intelligent than others, and this intelligence gap is determined by their genetics. > [@brazil84](#): > > No, that’s not my position. Again you demonstrate that you are lying when you claim to have read the thread. My position is that a substantial part of the gap is the result of genetics. So he says that Waenera’s quote is misrepresenting his position, then repeats Waenera’s claim as his own… Laughable… > [@brazil84](#): > > You seem to think that it’s necessary to point to actual genes (actually alleles) to do this. Which it is obviously not. Now he says that his genetic claim doesn’t need genes. I think this boy needs a brain cell or two. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2534 "2012-06-26T13:59:42Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > So he says that Waenera’s quote is misrepresenting his position, then repeats Waenera’s claim as his own… Laughable… > > Now he says that his genetic claim doesn’t need genes. I think this boy needs a brain cell or two. Right. Hang on, let me turn on this megaphone here… [unholy feedback sound] Hey dipshit! The word substantial means it’s the biggest and strongest determining factor, so that is your argument. And while I’m at it, Hi mom! [sqeeeeeeal] [click] ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2535 "2012-06-26T13:59:50Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > I think this boy needs a brain cell or two. :eek: That’s racist! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2536 "2012-06-26T14:05:31Z")
I love how **NDD** sheepishly whistled some vague tune while slinking away. Even the biggest racist this side of the Internet doesn’t want be associated with **b84.** ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2537 "2012-06-26T14:12:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > SCENE > \* > A dimly lit bomb shelter. **brazil84** sits on a tattered quilt, quietly arranging the cups and saucers of a child’s tea set.\* > > BRAZIL84 > > At last, I have banned everyone who refused to follow my rules and tried to misrepresent my position. Now the \*real \*debate can begin! Would you like some tea, **brazil84**? > > BRAZIL84 > > Why, thank you, **brazil84**! Mmm, what delicious tea! > > BRAZIL84 > > You’re quite welcome, **brazil84**! Please, try a tea-cake! I made them myself! > > BRAZIL84 > > Oh, how delicious! > > BRAZIL84 > > Thank you! Did you know that tea produced by Orientals is of much higher quality than tea produced by Negroes? > > BRAZIL84 > > Why, I did not! That certainly sounds interesting, and I would enjoy hearing how you came to that conclusion! I’m sure your argument will be well-supported and logically sound! > > BRAZIL84 > > Why, thank you! First, I will ask: do you agree that some human characteristics are determined by genes? > > BRAZIL84 > > Yes, I would! > > BRAZIL84 > > Excellent! We’re off to the races, then! Please, have some more tea! > > … That was beautiful, man. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2538 "2012-06-26T14:19:41Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > So he says that Waenera’s quote is misrepresenting his position, then repeats Waenera’s claim as his own… Laughable… There’s a difference between claiming that the gap is due to genetics and claiming that a part of the gap is due to genetics. Are you really not aware of this? > [@](#): > > Now he says that his genetic claim doesn’t need genes. Of course not. Long before the discovery of DNA, it was possible to reasonably conclude that some population differences were genetic in origin. Long before the discovery of X and Y chromosomes, it was possible to reasonably conclude that men are inherently taller than women. This is just basic common sense. Which unfortunately goes out the window for folks like you when the subject of race and intelligence comes up. Your reasoning is another example of the special pleading which infests your side of the debate. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2539 "2012-06-26T14:26:25Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > course not. Long before the discovery of DNA, it was possible to reasonably conclude that some population differences were genetic in origin. You know that DNA existed before it was discovered, right? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2540 "2012-06-26T14:27:14Z")
> [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Okay, man; I’ll confess - you got me. I’m not sure what your point is here. Everything I have said in this thread has been sincere. Different people define “racism” differently. I believe that blacks are inherently less smart than whites. If that falls within your definition of racism, then so be it. And nothing I said about eye color disproves any point I have made. If you think so, it’s likely because you are thinking about a point you imagine or wish that I had made – not a point I actually made. By the way, I would appreciate answers to the questions I asked you in Post #2200. Among other things, please explain what you mean by “determining factor” Also, do you agree that it’s regularly and prominently disputed that genetics plays a significant role in the achievement gaps between blacks and whites? Next, are you aware that there are people out there (with political power) who obsess over disparate racial outcomes and insist that it must be due to discrimination? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2541 "2012-06-26T14:33:41Z")
> [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > You know that DNA existed before it was discovered, right? Sure. So what? And please answer my questions from before: 1. Do you agree that height and body shape can be affected by socioeconomic status? 2. Assuming that eye and skin color are not affected by socioeconomic status (which I basically agree with), then then why does it follow that my “special pleading” argument is nonsense? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2542 "2012-06-26T14:40:38Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > There’s a difference between claiming that the gap is due to genetics and claiming that a part of the gap is due to genetics.. There’s also a difference between “a part” and “a **substantial** part”… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=126) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=128)