# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2623 "2012-06-26T19:05:05Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You sound absurd to anyone not inclined to make excuses for blacks. I’ll say it again… In your world, if someone looks white they qualify to be called white? No genetics at all? ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2624 "2012-06-26T19:06:08Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You sound absurd to anyone not inclined to make excuses for blacks. Dude, your hood is showing… ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2625 "2012-06-26T19:09:08Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Wrong- NDD had explicitly said things (about inferiority and superiority) that were contained in the definition. I do not believe that every black person is less intelligent than every white person. I do believe that average differences between the races are due primarily to genetic differences. If, by your definition of “racist” that makes me a racist, I do not care, because it is obviously true. It always has been obvious. The failure of No Child Left Behind provides fresh evidence of innate racial differences. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2626 "2012-06-26T19:11:38Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I do not believe that every black person is less intelligent than every white person. I do believe that average differences between the races are due primarily to genetic differences. If, by your definition of “racist” that makes me a racist, I do not care, because it is obviously true. It always has been obvious. The failure of No Child Left Behind provides fresh evidence of innate racial differences. It does not. Not without genetic evidence which you’ve refused to supply. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2627 "2012-06-26T19:15:15Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The Sahara Desert was more of a barrier to genetic communication than the Mediterranean Sea. > > These are photographs of Berbers. The great majority of them look Caucasion. > > [berbers - Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?q=berbers&hl=en&prmd=imvnsb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vwHqT96rGoye6wH7uaXyDA&sqi=2&ved=0CGEQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=653#hl=en&tbm=isch&q=berbers+of+morocco&revid=1360055038&sa=X&ei=wwHqT-rPAYG26gHy5oD3DA&ved=0CEcQgxY&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f014e820ddfc49d6&biw=1024&bih=653) Nice. You would not be interested, but what’s recently [making rounds in genetics news](http://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1ASUT_enCA465CA465&sugexp=chrome,mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ethiopia+sheba#q=ethiopia+sheba&hl=en&rlz=1C1ASUT_enCA465CA465&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ei=bwrqT6XAHeaA6QG54Z2DDQ&ved=0CFYQ_AUoBA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=95c2e1461cfb95d8&biw=1366&bih=653) is a paper on Sub-Saharan genetics (Ethiopia) that in particular deals with genetic influx from the Levant.[ > [@](#): > > Humans and their ancestors have traversed the Ethiopian landscape for millions of years, and present-day Ethiopians show great cultural, linguistic, and historical diversity, which makes them essential for understanding African variability and human origins. We genotyped 235 individuals from ten Ethiopian and two neighboring (South Sudanese and Somali) populations on an Illumina Omni 1M chip. Genotypes were compared with published data from several African and non-African populations. Principal-component and STRUCTURE-like analyses confirmed substantial genetic diversity both within and between populations, and revealed a match between genetic data and linguistic affiliation. Using comparisons with African and non-African reference samples in 40-SNP genomic windows, we identified “African” and “non-African” haplotypic components for each Ethiopian individual. The non-African component, which includes the SLC24A5 allele associated with light skin pigmentation in Europeans, may represent gene flow into Africa, which we estimate to have occurred ∼3 thousand years ago (kya). The African component was found to be more similar to populations inhabiting the Levant rather than the Arabian Peninsula, but the principal route for the expansion out of Africa ∼60 kya remains unresolved. ]([Ethiopian Genetic Diversity Reveals Linguistic Stratification and Complex Influences on the Ethiopian Gene Pool - ScienceDirect](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929712002716))In the news stories they even wrapped up the findings in the historical “Queen of Sheba” story which seems to be religiously/culturally important to Ethiopians. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2628 "2012-06-26T19:16:12Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, I have no idea what your point is here. My point? Well, I make it clear to you: You are a fucking-idiotic-moron!!! Do you need me to clarify that? Ok, here it is: You are a fucking-idiotic-moron!!! Got it? Don’t think so, but since you like to talk around in circles. This might explain it: You are a fucking-idiotic-moron!!! > [@brazil84](#): > > Anyway, you posted a definition of “racism.” NDD reasonably interpreted it at a strawman argument. When he did so, you implied that he had misinterpreted you, but you refused to actually explain what your point was. i.e. you are hiding your position behind a cloak of ambiguity. It’s the Oxford dictionary definition of: racism There is no interpretation of it, the Oxford dictionary has nothing to do with any strawman argument that you have with yourself or anyone else for that matter. Since we cleared up, that both of you (Brazil & NDD) are racists, all arguments that you make are biased and based on a believe system of some race being superior to another. Which brings me back to my extensive research via your posts on this forum, that you both are in fact :\*\*\* fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-morons!!!\*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2629 "2012-06-26T19:21:43Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > It’s the Oxford dictionary definition of: racism And you refuse to say what your point was in posting it. . > [@](#): > > Since we cleared up, that both of you (Brazil & NDD) are racists, By your definition? No. Please show me where I claimed or implied that **all** members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities **specific to** that race. Failing that, please admit that I neither said nor implied any such thing and apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2630 "2012-06-26T19:21:52Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > My point? Well, I make it clear to you: You are a fucking-idiotic-moron!!! > > Do you need me to clarify that? Ok, here it is: You are a fucking-idiotic-moron!!! > > Got it? Don’t think so, but since you like to talk around in circles. This might explain it: You are a fucking-idiotic-moron!!! > > It’s the Oxford dictionary definition of: racism > > There is no interpretation of it, the Oxford dictionary has nothing to do with any strawman argument that you have with yourself or anyone else for that matter. > > Since we cleared up, that both of you (Brazil & NDD) are racists, all arguments that you make are biased and based on a believe system of some race being superior to another. > > Which brings me back to my extensive research via your posts on this forum, that you both are in fact :\*\*\* fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-morons!!!\*\*\* Come on Doughbag, tell us how you _really_ feel. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2631 "2012-06-26T19:23:04Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Liberals are so desperate for any evidence that the races are biologically equivalent that they will emphasize anything that seems to give evidence of intrinsic equality, while ignoring the overwhelming amount of evidence that points in the opposite direction. So, all the conservatives that also do not agree with what you claim are chopped liver? [http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/03/18/david-frum-george-and-mitt-romney-the-death-of-moderate-gop.html](http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/03/18/david-frum-george-and-mitt-romney-the-death-of-moderate-gop.html) Once again, your attempt at making this a solely liberal idea is bananas. Once again, it is indeed a straw man to assign this to liberals and once again, the evidence of differences in performance does not mean that genetics are the driving force. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2632 "2012-06-26T19:23:49Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The Sahara Desert was more of a barrier to genetic communication than the Mediterranean Sea. It is funny that in fact the genetics say something else. Of course you are ignorant and do not know the history of the Sahara and that in fact in the old Neolithic it was wet with the lakes and steppe, as we know from the rock paintings in areas now in the deep desert. You again betray that you are stating nothing but your prejudices. > [@](#): > > These are photographs of Berbers. The great majority of them look Caucasion. > > [berbers - Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?q=berbers&hl=en&prmd=imvnsb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vwHqT96rGoye6wH7uaXyDA&sqi=2&ved=0CGEQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=653#hl=en&tbm=isch&q=berbers+of+morocco&revid=1360055038&sa=X&ei=wwHqT-rPAYG26gHy5oD3DA&ved=0CEcQgxY&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f014e820ddfc49d6&biw=1024&bih=653) A google search on images, so this is your science? Of course you ignore the many faces there that are as Black as your African Americans. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So a google image search, with your opinions on how they look, trumps actual genetic evidence? Do you realize how absurd you sound? He does not know. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I note that once again you’re ignoring actual genetic evidence in favor of your feelings. > > The Sahara desert has not been around forever, and has not been as large as it is now for long at all. [Until about 5000 years ago,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara_desert#Egyptians) much of it was quite habitable. And there has been “genetic communication” up and down each coast of Africa for thousands of years, unhindered by deserts. Precisely. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You sound absurd to anyone not inclined to make excuses for blacks. Yes the evil negres. We all understand that you are a person driven by pitiful hatreds and archaic ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2633 "2012-06-26T19:27:19Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > And you refuse to say what your point was in posting it. The point was to point out that your entire argument comes from your inane opinions with no evidence backing it up. You have an irrational hatred of blacks and you try (badly) to use scientific terms to validate your opinions. You are a textbook racist. > [@brazil84](#): > > By your definition? No. > > Please show me where I claimed or implied that **all** members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities **specific to** that race. > > Failing that, please admit that I neither said nor implied any such thing and apologize. You are a fucking liar. Your whole point in this thread is to claim or to imply that whites are superior to blacks. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2634 "2012-06-26T19:32:31Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > The point was to point out that your entire argument comes from your inane opinions with no evidence backing it up. Please quote one “inane opinion” I have posted without supplying evidence upon request. Failing that, please admit that I have done no such thing and apologize. > [@](#): > > You have an irrational hatred of blacks and you try (badly) to use scientific terms to validate your opinions. Lol, nice attack on my motivations. > [@](#): > > You are a fucking liar. Please quote one such lie. > [@](#): > > Your whole point in this thread is to claim or to imply that whites are superior to blacks. Please quote me where I have stated or implied so. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2635 "2012-06-26T19:33:48Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > And you refuse to say what your point was in posting it. I got so lost in telling you, that you are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!! After that, I thought, it was pointless making any other point, since you are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!! > [@brazil84](#): > > Please show me where I claimed or implied that **all** members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities **specific to** that race. > > Failing that, please admit that I neither said nor implied any such thing and apologize. Come again? So, blacks are not dumber or more violent and prone to crime compared to Whites? I guess we must have all misunderstood you. I apologize for not understanding you, when you in fact said, that there is no difference between black and whites. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2636 "2012-06-26T19:36:57Z")
[And if you want to do stupid Google searches of images, use a better language](https://www.google.com/search?q=berbers&hl=en&prmd=imvnsb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vwHqT96rGoye6wH7uaXyDA&sqi=2&ved=0CGEQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=653#hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=berbere+marocain&oq=berbere+marocain&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=img.3...139635.139635.11.140057.1.0.0.1.1.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.Zog5nEKzzMo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=76f06e68b5fe30fa&biw=1440&bih=765) ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2637 "2012-06-26T19:40:26Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > I got so lost in telling you, that you are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!! > After that, I thought, it was pointless making any other point, since you are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!! Lol, a brilliant explanation. > [@](#): > > Come again? So, blacks are not dumber or more violent and prone to crime compared to Whites? Blacks are less intelligent than whites in general and on average. That’s different from claiming that each and every black is less intelligent than each and every white. Do you understand the distinction? > [@](#): > > that there is no difference between black and whites. Right? There is a difference – in general and on average. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2638 "2012-06-26T19:54:43Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Please show me where I claimed or implied that **all** members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities **specific to** that race. I do not know every name and member of every race, I guess you do, since you make a clear distinction between individuals. Here is mine: _ **You are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!!** _ See, I didn’t make a broad sweep at any race or ethnic group, just _ **you!** _ > [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, a brilliant explanation. Sure it is….. it’s been proven over and over again! You are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!! > [@brazil84](#): > > Blacks are less intelligent than whites in general and on average. That’s different from claiming that each and every black is less intelligent than each and every white. And that’s exactly what a racist is: [QUOTE=] \*\*racist \*\* Pronunciation: /ˈreɪsɪst/ \*noun \* a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another: I had a fear of being called a racist adjective having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another: we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at a newsagents [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2639 "2012-06-26T19:56:21Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You sound absurd to anyone not inclined to make excuses for blacks. Good job changing the subject. Do you really stand by your claim that your opinions on the faces that show up on an (english language) google image search constitute scientific evidence, while genetic evidence does not? Your stubbornness is impressively pathetic. As is your obvious hatred of black people. When did the hatred start? Was there one specific incident? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2640 "2012-06-26T19:59:04Z")
NDD- basically your belief is that your own pre-conceived notions, and a google image search, are more valid than genetic evidence when discussing the genetic background and ancestry of Moroccoans. Do you still think of yourself as a rational, scientific thinker? ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2641 "2012-06-26T20:04:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > NDD- basically your belief is that your own pre-conceived notions, and a google image search, are more valid than genetic evidence when discussing the genetic background and ancestry of Moroccoans. Do you still think of yourself as a rational, scientific thinker? It’s unlikely, but at this stage he should realise, that _ **he is a are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!!** _ > [@Doughbag](#): > > Here is mine: _ **You are a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!!** _ > See, I didn’t make a broad sweep at any race or ethnic group, just _ **you!** _ Sorry I forgot **NDD** , since he is also _ **a fucking-retarded-idiotic-stupid-narrow minded-moron!!!** _ ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2642 "2012-06-26T20:04:39Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > I do not know every name and member of every race, I guess you do, since you make a clear distinction between individuals. Looks like (unsurprisingly) you are unable to back up your claim. > [@](#): > > And that’s exactly what a racist is: You are weaseling. (Your new position is equally wrong, since intelligence does not necessarily imply general superiority.) Anyway, I don’t engage with people who strawman me, i.e. people who misrepresent my position. Nor do I engage with people who weasel, i.e. change their own position without acknowledging it. You have done both. Welcome to my ignore list. Goodbye, liar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=133)