# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2663 "2012-06-26T22:17:12Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I trust the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, UN Survey of Crime Trends more than the World Health Organization. Translation: “This cherry tastes better than that one.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2664 "2012-06-26T22:17:55Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I trust the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, UN Survey of Crime Trends more than the World Health Organization. You trust whichever statistics happen to support your argument, and ignore everything else. INTERPOL is not an untrustworthy source. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2665 "2012-06-26T22:20:03Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > None of those claims are substantiated with credible sources. > > This is what the CIA World Factbook has to say about the economy of Senegal, “senegal relies heavily on donor assistance.” In other words, the economy is a charity case. > > The per capita gross domestic product in Senegal is $1,900. > > [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sg.html](https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sg.html) > > 39.3 percent of adults are literate. > > [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sg.html](https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sg.html) > > For a country to have these dismal statistics and then a crime rate as low as Japan’s does not pass the laugh test. As I said- any data that does not jive with your thinking must be wrong. Disregarding data just because you don’t like it is nonscientific thinking. Your hatred of black people has affected your thinking. You just won’t accept any data, no matter the rigor of the study or the source, that shows that black people are not stupid and violent. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2666 "2012-06-26T22:22:02Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > To continue to illustrate how NDD hides from genetic facts and makes assertions that have no thing to do with the science: > > [Polymorphic Alu insertions and genetic diversity among African populations - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596946) > Or > [Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations - PMC](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257290/?tool=pubmed) > [Polymorphisms of mtDNA control region in Tunisian and Moroccan populations: an enrichment of forensic mtDNA databases with Northern Africa data - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19414164?dopt=Abstract) > [The history of African gene flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21533020) > These genetic papers tell different stories, and can seem almost contradictory on populations, because they look at different markers. > > But they have a common story, that the isolation of ‘races’ that NDD wishes to assert existed did not exist and show the constant of great variation between his ‘Negroes’ and common and ancient gene flows into the populations he asserts are white because he needs that for his race argument. This explains something I have wondered about. Why does Greece, which is the first European nation that developed urban civilization, have a lower average IQ than Germanic countries, which developed urban civilization much longer? [http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm](http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm) The explanation seems to be the influx of Negro genes into Greece during the Roman Empire. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2667 "2012-06-26T22:24:53Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > This explains something I have wondered about. Why does Greece, which is the first European nation that developed urban civilization, have a lower average IQ than Germanic countries, which developed urban civilization much longer? > > [http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm](http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm) > > The explanation seems to be the influx of Negro genes into Greece during the Roman Empire. Still quoting Lynn’s made-up data? What’s next, phrenology? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2668 "2012-06-26T22:28:50Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > As I said- any data that does not jive with your thinking must be wrong. Disregarding data just because you don’t like it is nonscientific thinking. > > Your hatred of black people has affected your thinking. You just won’t accept any data, no matter the rigor of the study or the source, that shows that black people are not stupid and violent. I am withholding judgement on the crime rate of Senegal, just as I am withholding judgement on the academic performance in the United States of Nigerian immigrants. The average IQ in India is 81. [http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm](http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm) That is even lower than the average for American blacks. Nevertheless, Indian immigrants to the Untied States perform well academically. After one or two generations Indian American have average incomes as high or higher than for white Americans. India is a large country, and the brightest Indians are the ones that migrate here. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2669 "2012-06-26T22:31:29Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I am withholding judgement on the crime rate of Senegal, just as I am withholding judgement on the academic performance in the United States of Nigerian immigrants. > > The average IQ in India is 81. > > [http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm](http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm) > > That is even lower than the average for American blacks. Nevertheless, Indian immigrants to the Untied States perform well academically. After one or two generations Indian American have average incomes as high or higher than for white Americans. India is a large country, and the brightest Indians are the ones that migrate here. More of Lynn’s made-up data. And it’s convenient that you are withholding judgement on any data that conflicts with your narrative. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2670 "2012-06-26T22:32:02Z")
Because it sure fucking stinks of trolling to me. I’d prefer disability fantasists to our board racists. I know this fucking furrow has been plowed a number of times recently but seriously, what the fuck. Can you not ban the usual suspects from talking on the subject of race, or at least corral them into only posting about that bullshit in their own threads? It really brings down the quality of this board to have these fuckers here. I’m sick of it, especially when they infect threads of merit. Fuck that shit. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2671 "2012-06-26T22:42:20Z")
You know what else sucks? Rants about specific board behavior without appropriate links so we all know what the hell you’re bitching about. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2672 "2012-06-26T22:47:36Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > This explains something I have wondered about. Why does Greece, which is the first European nation that developed urban civilization, have a lower average IQ than Germanic countries, which developed urban civilization much longer? > > [http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm](http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm) > > The explanation seems to be the influx of Negro genes into Greece during the Roman Empire. By all means, go to Athens and tell all the Greeks you meet that they’re poorer than Germany because they have **inferior Negro genes**! You know, there’s a whole sub-specialty of white nationalism called Nordicism, which holds that Northern Europeans are inherently, genetically superior to peoples of Mediterranean origin. I understand they’re always taking new members. Since it’s clear that you’ve completely lost your fucking mind, feel free to join! ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2673 "2012-06-26T22:49:17Z")
This current [mammoth thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653465)for one wherein the usual suspects get to air their bullshit once more. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2674 "2012-06-26T22:49:19Z")
It’s just my opinion, but I’d rather have an out of the closet racist than one still in the cupboard because at least then I know what I’m dealing with. It’s a wrong stance, but then, people have a right to wrong thoughts. It’s wrong actions that are actionable. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2675 "2012-06-26T22:57:22Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > This explains something I have wondered about. Why does Greece, which is the first European nation that developed urban civilization, have a lower average IQ than Germanic countries, which developed urban civilization much longer? > > [http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm](http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm) > > The explanation seems to be the influx of Negro genes into Greece during the Roman Empire. Encore more of the ad hoc explanations to try to hand wave away the data that shows you for what you are, a very stupid racist. It is funny that you skip over [the article data](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3080861/table/pgen-1001373-t002/) that shows more sub-Saharan African ancestry among **Jews** of all origins, and the Greeks in there are \*\*Jewish. \*\* Your ideas have no logic or coherence, they are nothing but the sad hateful muttering of an archaicism. It shows your desparation as your world view is falsified. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2676 "2012-06-26T22:58:32Z")
It also shows the great stupidity of his ad hoc argumentations about civilisation changing the genes of the population. He makes up his assertions for the need of the moment without any care for coherence or internal logic. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2677 "2012-06-26T23:02:53Z")
A troll is someone just trying to get a rise out of other people. If you are sincere in your racism, you are arguing in the same way as someone who is sincere in their non-racism. It’s not trolling. But really, if you have an issue with board policy, that’s best discussed in ATMB, not here. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2678 "2012-06-26T23:12:38Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Burden of Proof is a fallacy in which the burden of proof is placed on the wrong side. The Irony, it burns! Or that could be the burrito I had for lunch. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > In other words, the differences _behave_ as though they are genetic. > > The burden of proof is on those who maintain that the differences are not genetic. This argument also applies to HEIGHT. And I see you choose not to apologize (or acknowledge) that I totally called you on your use of “liberals” as a perjorative. Pulling a dick move 2 seconds after saying you don’t pull dick moves is just rich. > [@Waenara](#): > > You claim that you’re “only talking about averages” and not individuals, but your own arguments betray your true beliefs. > > When asked about Barack Obama’s intelligence, you did _not_ state that he is an outlier and is a black person who just happens to be more intelligent than the (low) black average. Instead, you said that his intelligence is due to his white ancestry. Yup. Can’t have it both ways. Then again, we’ve all pretty much caught NDD out in a number of contradictions. I’m curious which of the hundreds of different evasions he’s already made made he’ll use this time. My guess is more selective memory with a side of semantic argument. If the folks from the Indian subcontinent are actually unintelligent, their statistics don’t match anybody else on the planet, as they send the 2nd most (behind China) graduate students to the US and have an ultra-competitive university system of their own. That’s no moo…um, bell curve. That’s one of the shittier examples NDD has given (and that’s saying a hell of a lot). That would be one heck of a bi-modal distribution (I’m guessing NDD couldn’t spot one of those, either). ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2679 "2012-06-26T23:16:25Z")
Really, 54 pages and you needed an additional thread to say racists are bad and annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2680 "2012-06-26T23:18:14Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > This current [mammoth thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653465)for one wherein the usual suspects get to air their bullshit once more. Your complaining about **New Deal** posting in his own pitting? I think the Mods already kept them from hijacking every thread about Africa with their beliefs, which seems reasonable. I don’t think completely muzzeling them is worth it though. Trying to censor all the stupid ideas floated on the SDMB isn’t really workable even if it was a good idea in any case. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2681 "2012-06-26T23:32:35Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I think the Mods already kept them from hijacking every thread about Africa with their beliefs, which seems reasonable. I don’t think completely muzzeling them is worth it though. Trying to censor all the stupid ideas floated on the SDMB isn’t really workable even if it was a good idea in any case. They could at least try damn it! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2682 "2012-06-26T23:46:41Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > They could at least try damn it! :mad: Well, if we had some Oriental moderators, maybe they would be smart enough to figure it out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=135)