# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2743 "2012-06-27T14:11:05Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Says you and only you. There’s no logical reason why we should assume these characteristics are genetic without any evidence. Excuse me. The persistence of the tendencies is impressive evidence that they are genetic. Long before genes were discovered it was known that closely related organisms resembled each other, and that important characteristics were bequeathed to descendants. This is how neolithic peoples were able to domesticate plants and animals thousands of years before the invention of writing and mathematics. Even Charles Darwin composed his theories without a knowledge of how genetics worked. Gregor Mendel was developing that knowledge. Nevertheless, genes were not discovered until the twentieth century. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2744 "2012-06-27T14:15:42Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > So, um, your good behavior is nurture not nature then? > > CMC fnord! Probably both. My parents taught me morality, but they were not strict. The reason I was never in trouble with school authorities or with the police was because I did not want to do the kinds of things that would have gotten me into trouble. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2745 "2012-06-27T14:17:21Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Excuse me. The persistence of the tendencies is impressive evidence that they are genetic. Long before genes were discovered it was known that closely related organisms resembled each other, and that important characteristics were bequeathed to descendants. This is how neolithic peoples were able to domesticate plants and animals thousands of years before the invention of writing and mathematics. > > Even Charles Darwin composed his theories without a knowledge of how genetics worked. Gregor Mendel was developing that knowledge. Nevertheless, genes were not discovered until the twentieth century. What persistence? A few decades of IQ testing? Crime data from untrustworthy governments (like China now and the USA for much of its history)? Your terribly biased assessment of ancient civilizations (that ignores any “black” accomplishments)? This persistence only exists in your mind. Throughout the world the tendency since WWII is towards better education, better quality of life, and less prejudice. Nigeria today has higher quality education, higher literacy, and a wealthier society than the USA did in the 19th century. None of these statistics say anything at all about genetics. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2746 "2012-06-27T14:26:20Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Excuse me. The persistence of the tendencies is impressive evidence that they are genetic. Wrong. The only evidence that anything is genetic is _genetic evidence._ That has always been true and it will always be true. Darwin and Mendel were right about most of this, of course, but they weren’t proven right (as much as science can prove anything) until after they were dead. Your assertions about genetics have zero evidence. Your hatred of black people is what drives your certainty. If you’re able to look at any of this objectively (and so far you have not demonstrated this ability), compare the “evidence” you’ve presented to your level of certainty. Does it justify the complete and utter certainty that you seem to have? If not, perhaps you should contemplate why you are so certain. I think it’s due to the level of hatred you’ve shown for black people. Perhaps you don’t dispute this. Perhaps you don’t even care. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2747 "2012-06-27T14:31:23Z")
Overcoming hatred is a tough, tough thing. Most people that are filled with hatred probably won’t ever get over it- they’ll die being filled with hate. I’m lucky that I’ve never had to try. NDD- perhaps you should try… you might find that you’ll be a happier, better person for it. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2748 "2012-06-27T14:42:57Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Door one. With an IQ of 72 I would not be admitted to an elite prep school. With an IQ of 145, and as a black person born to poverty, I might get a full tuition scholarship to one of those elite prep schools. From then on personal merit and affirmative action would ease my continued ascent. So I guess, with your present IQ, you couldn’t make it into a crappy prep school. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2749 "2012-06-27T14:48:43Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You are misquoting me. The fact that you are descending to such a level should be embarrassing to decent people who disagree with me. Not especially. I wouldn’t do it, but your claims are just as made up out of whole cloth and just as disgusting. Trying to invent a scientific reason that blacks are dumber than whites is sick. If you have any genetic evidence (which you obviously do not have) post it, otherwise shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2750 "2012-06-27T14:50:50Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Excuse me. The persistence of the tendencies is impressive evidence that they are genetic. Ummm… I think that genetic doesn’t mean what you think it means, because your assertion is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2751 "2012-06-27T14:52:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Overcoming hatred is a tough, tough thing. Most people that are filled with hatred probably won’t ever get over it- they’ll die being filled with hate. I’m lucky that I’ve never had to try. NDD- perhaps you should try… you might find that you’ll be a happier, better person for it. But then he won’t have any use for all the gasoline soaked crosses in his barn. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2752 "2012-06-27T14:59:23Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You are misquoting me. The fact that you are descending to such a level should be embarrassing to decent people who disagree with me. No, I did no such thing! > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I commit incest. This is exactly what you wrote yourself. It’s proven, you are in fact a LIAR!!! ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2753 "2012-06-27T15:07:38Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Let me rephrase that - Berbers ain’t _all_ white. Duh, just the smart ones. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2754 "2012-06-27T15:15:44Z")
Holy fuck, this shouting match is still going on after more than 2700 posts??? I’d lost interest by page 2. Sometimes having a short attention span is a _good_ thing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2755 "2012-06-27T15:17:26Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > Holy fuck, this shouting match is still going on after more than 2700 posts??? > I’d lost interest by page 2. Sometimes having a short attention span is a _good_ thing. 😉 You haven’t posted any quotes proving that it has. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2756 "2012-06-27T15:28:40Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I’d lost interest by page 2. You haven’t missed anything. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2757 "2012-06-27T15:35:08Z")
So, you people still think you’re going to change their minds? I bet by page 374 a light bulb will light up in their heads and they’ll realize their ignorance. But you have to keep vigilant. You can do it. I believe in you. Only 319 more pages to go. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2758 "2012-06-27T15:35:47Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > Holy fuck, this shouting match is still going on after more than 2700 posts??? > I’d lost interest by page 2. Sometimes having a short attention span is a _good_ thing. 😉 I lost interest in debating a long while ago. Now I just quote some of the more ridiculous things our resident racists say and mock them them and call them names. They don’t want a debate, they want a forum to spout their inanities and thump their chests. See NDD’s burden of proof claim. He says the burden of proof is on us to prove him wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2759 "2012-06-27T15:45:53Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So, you people still think you’re going to change their minds? Oh, I don’t think anybody thinks that. But it’s like weeding a garden. You’ll always have to pull weeds, and some weeds are more persistent than others. It’s a never ending job. That, and at least by keeping the discussion in these (interminably long) threads, we’ve got a nice quarantine zone. It’s less likely normal folks are going to be willing to wade through thousands of posts to see the insanity and NDD and B84 will expend the vast majority of their energy here, rather than infest the rest of the board. It’s also mildly amusing to see just how many logical fallacies a single poster can make and make repeatedly in the same thread. Not to mention that both NDD and B84 have claimed they don’t make personal insults only to turn around and insult other posters. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2760 "2012-06-27T16:18:33Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So, you people still think you’re going to change their minds? No, not really… but we are winning the argument… see below > [@Smeghead](#): > > You haven’t missed anything. Nothing important anyhow, besides the fact, that we got NDD to admit, that NDD is a racist and is commiting incest. And we got proof of it. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I commit incest. Beside the point, that NDD is a complete feckin ijet - other than that, NO you haven’t missed much. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2761 "2012-06-27T16:25:46Z")
In my GD thread about monuments for white supremacists, he said this about black people: > [@Is it worth it to try and remove monuments and names honoring white supremacists?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-worth-it-to-try-and-remove-monuments-and-names-honoring-white-supremacists/626258/22): > > Do people still seriously see them as equals? Sure, they shouldn’t be treated rudely but they are in no way equal. Just look at their continent, it’s a complete disaster. They refuse to use it for agricultural reasons, or they don’t know how to. Their skulls are a completely different shape, and their brains less developed. They don’t even have any Neanderthal ancestors. They are a straight offshoot from the Homo-Erectus. Every other race is a hybrid breed composing of Neanderthal and the Homo-Erectus and thirty thousand years of evolution. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw) > Even their language is primitive. Sure, there are some very successful black people, but that doesn’t account for them as a whole. This post is full of wrongness, fail, and idiocy. I’m not sure there’s a single sentence that’s not incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2762 "2012-06-27T16:31:02Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > Holy fuck, this shouting match is still going on after more than 2700 posts??? > I’d lost interest by page 2. Sometimes having a short attention span is a _good_ thing. 😉 Come back in two weeks and I suspect it’ll still be churning along, unless **NDD** or **b84** screw up and toss a “cuntlapper” into the middle of their endless racist diatribe. **olives** has inadvertently created a perpetual moron machine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=139)