# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 140
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2783 "2012-06-27T18:12:07Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > \ If you and I were in a formal debate before impartial judges I would win easily. I am well informed. You are not. I am unflappable. You get emotional. In a formal debate I would provoke you into making a fool of yourself. 😃 As an impartial judge, I think you are wrong. From my perusal of the threads over the last several days, you come off as a racist. A well spoken racist maybe (not well informed, just well spoken), but still just a racist. I was a bit surprised, to be honest. I had missed all the prior pittings of you, so to learn that you were a frothing at the mouth white supremacist came as somewhat as a shock to me. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2784 "2012-06-27T18:12:22Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > As is usual for your statements you claim a lack of evidence when it is abundant. That the Neanderthals were less intelligent than the Cro Magnons who displaced them is not even controversial among paleontologists. Wrong again. There is debate, but no consensus- in fact, the brains of humans and Neanderthal babies were [likely identical](http://io9.com/5684169/the-brains-of-human-and-neanderthal-babies-were-almost-identical). Neanderthal brains were even a bit larger as adults. > [@](#): > > I am not usually this candid iiandyiiii, but you have been a persistent irritant to me. You are a bully, and like other bullies you are a coward. You feel like a big man when part of a lynch mob. If you and I were in a formal debate before impartial judges I would win easily. I am well informed. You are not. I am unflappable. You get emotional. In a formal debate I would provoke you into making a fool of yourself. 😃 You are not well informed. You continue to state the “three race” idea, when it’s been demolished time and time again. With regard to genetic relationships, it’s akin to dividing up animals by the number of legs they walk on. You have zero genetic evidence for your claims. Your knowledge of ancient history is abysmal and reminiscent of 19th century thinking about “higher” and “lower” civilizations. You’ve let slip the real you a few times, and your hatred of black people shines through (like when you call black people “savages” who spread their “savagery” everywhere they go). When did you start to hate black people so much? What was the incident? You’re a pitiable parody of an intellectual. Your hatred of black people blinds you to so much- most notably the incredible weakness of your claims. You’re nothing new- pseudointellectuals have been spouting racist pseudoscience for generations; and now the scientific establishment is mature enough to expose them for the clowns they are. The scientists you cite are fabricators-of-data like Lynn or perverted weirdoes like Rushton. Emotional? The only emotion I feel for you is pity. It must be a miserable existence to be filled with so much hate, and to use what intellectual ability you have to try and justify that hate. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2785 "2012-06-27T18:15:54Z")
Their skulls are a different shape. What more needs to be said? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2786 "2012-06-27T18:22:14Z")
> [@L. G. Butts](#): > > As an impartial judge, I think you are wrong. From my perusal of the threads over the last several days, you come off as a racist. A well spoken racist maybe (not well informed, just well spoken), but still just a racist. > > I was a bit surprised, to be honest. I had missed all the prior pittings of you, so to learn that you were a frothing at the mouth white supremacist came as somewhat as a shock to me. Your use of the noun “racist” disqualifies you as an impartial judge. The use of that term is an appeal to emotion that does not advance a rational discussion. What is more, it reveals your bias against any criticisms of blacks, however accurate those criticisms may be. Whether or not I am what you define as a “racist” is irrelevant. What matters is whether or not my factual assertions are true, and whether or not my reasoning is logical. * * * This sort of “reasoning” is quite evidently fallacious. It is fallacious because using various tactics to incite emotions in people does not serve as evidence for a claim. For example, if a person were able to inspire in a person an incredible hatred of the claim that 1+1 = 2 and then inspired the person to love the claim that 1+1 = 3, it would hardly follow that the claim that 1+1 = 3 would be adequately supported. [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html](http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2787 "2012-06-27T18:24:13Z")
And, of course, 1 is a loaded number, so nobody could ever be rational about it. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2788 "2012-06-27T18:25:05Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The use of that term is an appeal to emotion that does not advance a rational discussion. What is it with you people and your failure to rationally discuss my theory that niggers are retarded and have big dicks? It’s science and I’m winning at it! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2789 "2012-06-27T18:26:58Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The use of that term is an appeal to emotion that does not advance a rational discussion. Your indictment of black people as savages who spread their savagery every where they go does not advance a rational discussion. Your claim that President Obama got his intelligence from his white ancestry does not advance a rational discussion. Your hatred of black people often seems to prevent you from advancing a rational discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2790 "2012-06-27T18:29:12Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I admit, I have probably brought the property values down. I will try to ease off on the hip hop music and the night barbecues. Hey, lady, you can move into my neighborhood any old time. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2791 "2012-06-27T18:34:45Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Your use of the noun “racist” disqualifies you as an impartial judge. I decide who is impartial or not, so I’ll just wait here until a judge that agrees with me shows up. Nice how that works. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > What matters is whether or not my factual assertions are true, and whether or not my reasoning is logical. This is literally the funniest shit I’ve read all day. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2792 "2012-06-27T18:46:34Z")
> [@L. G. Butts](#): > > As an impartial judge, I think you are wrong. From my perusal of the threads over the last several days, you come off as a racist. A well spoken racist maybe (not well informed, just well spoken), but still just a racist. I admit that I am poorly informed of evidence that blacks behave and perform as well as whites. Although I am ignorant of that evidence, I am not willfully ignorant. If you can present credibly documented facts pertaining to that good behavior and performance I will admit that I have been mistaken, and apologize to those whose feelings I may have hurt. If you cannot prove that blacks behave and perform as well as whites, I will appreciate and accept an apology from you. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2793 "2012-06-27T18:50:01Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Your use of the noun “racist” disqualifies you as an impartial judge. The use of that term is an appeal to emotion that does not advance a rational discussion. What is more, it reveals your bias against any criticisms of blacks, however accurate those criticisms may be. Whether or not I am what you define as a “racist” is irrelevant. What matters is whether or not my factual assertions are true, and whether or not my reasoning is logical. > > * * * > > This sort of “reasoning” is quite evidently fallacious. It is fallacious because using various tactics to incite emotions in people does not serve as evidence for a claim. For example, if a person were able to inspire in a person an incredible hatred of the claim that 1+1 = 2 and then inspired the person to love the claim that 1+1 = 3, it would hardly follow that the claim that 1+1 = 3 would be adequately supported. > [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html](http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html) Ah, so you’re just an impartial judge who is above the fray, using your clarity of vision and superior intellect to bolster your arguments, and we’re supposed to find some sort of neutral word to describe your views? Words like ‘racist’ and ‘bigot’ were coined to describe hateful people and their actions, and are entirely appropriate in this case. Couching your views in the stilted language of academia and debate doesn’t mean you’re right; it just means you think you’re good at hiding what you are. A hater is a hater, whatever form he takes. Crawl back under your rock, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2794 "2012-06-27T18:53:52Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I admit that I am poorly informed of evidence that blacks behave and perform as well as whites. Although I am ignorant of that evidence, I am not willfully ignorant. If you can present credibly documented facts pertaining to that good behavior and performance I will admit that I have been mistaken, and apologize to those whose feelings I may have hurt. > > If you cannot prove that blacks behave and perform as well as whites, I will appreciate and accept an apology from you. Your hatred of black people continues to blind you to so many things, including any sort of understanding of how science works, or even basic logic. No one has denied the existence of an achievement gap. Your claim is about the explanation for this gap- not its existence. You claim that the explanation is due to inherent genetic differences between your (poorly defined and contradictory) races. And then we ask you to show some evidence to support this- and all you do is show more evidence for the achievement gap that is not in dispute. You have zero evidence for your explanation of the achievement gap. It’s been explained in simple terms what that evidence would actually consist of. You display willful ignorance when you scramble for an excuse for any fact that contradicts your narrative- like the amazing achievements of various sub-Saharan African societies, or various groups with no achievement gap or even the reverse (not that any of this has anything to do with genetics anyway). And then the real NDD shines through- the one who says black people are savages who spread their savagery everywhere they live. This is the NDD I think is closer to your core. All that hatred cannot stay bottled up without letting a few bubbles up every once and a while. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2795 "2012-06-27T18:54:46Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > None of those links substantiated Doughbag’s assertion. None discredited mine. The differing crime rates for various races are important statistics which in some countries are concealed for reasons of political correctness. Look, you stupid fuck. I’ve tried reason with you, and it has proven to be pointless, because you are too dishonest to argue fairly. Note that, unlike some of your other, numerous critics, I don’t think you’re a complete imbecile. You’re just a dishonest pile of feces. You have no intention of arguing in good faith. Go right back to quoting your CIA homicide stats, you fetid assbag. Maybe someone will ask you how many of those homicide deaths in Nigeria were vehicular in nature, or what the criteria for a manslaughter conviction vis-a-vis a murder conviction in Kenya are, but it won’t be me. Just fuck off and go away. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Most blacks do not perform poorly intellectually because people like me think that they do. We think that most of them perform poorly intellectually because all of the evidence indicates that most of them do. > > We are not holding blacks back intellectually any more than we are holding them back athletically. When blacks had the opportunity to compete athletically many of them excelled. When blacks had the opportunity to compete academically most revealed their inadequacies. More dishonest crockery. You are such a waste of skin. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2796 "2012-06-27T18:55:27Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Couching your views in the stilted language of academia and debate doesn’t mean you’re right Especially when they’re just bluster intended to cover up a woeful lack of scientific knowledge. Posters more scientifically literate than I have demonstrated over and over again that **New Deal Democrat** (and his friends) is poorly informed on all of his favorite subjects and uses academic jargon and references to two or three books in a vain attempt to bullshit his way into respectability. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2797 "2012-06-27T18:58:28Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I admit that I am poorly informed of evidence that blacks behave and perform as well as whites. You are also poorly informed about genetics, the spread of humanity from Africa throughout the world, and ancient history. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2798 "2012-06-27T19:04:26Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I admit that I am poorly informed of evidence that blacks behave and perform as well as whites. Of all the idiotic lines you keep parroting, this is definitely in the top 500. Nobody has scientific evidence that “blacks _behave as well as_ whites” because it’s nonsensical statement that doesn’t \*mean \*anything. How does one determine, scientifically, whether one group “behaves as well as” another group? By applying a behaviorometer? By hiring Miss Manners to supervise a study? By consulting the lengthy academic research of Professors Goofus and Gallant? In your fantasy “impartially judged debate” scenario, that’s the point at which a halfway clever moderator would interject “excuse me, Mr. **Democrat** , but what exactly do you mean by “behaves better than,” and how would one go about proving that scientifically?” Well he’s not here, so I’m doing it. Let’s all pretend you’re actually interested in science, and you tell us what “behaves better than” means and what sort of scientific evidence you’d find compelling. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2799 "2012-06-27T19:05:51Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > and ancient history. Now sir, I take exception to that. We’ve shown he doesn’t know a lot about _modern_ history, either! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2800 "2012-06-27T19:05:55Z")
Dammit, **iiandyiiii**! I came in here expecting something “brand new” and all I find is the same old racists spouting the same old racist shit my first-grade teacher used to laugh at in 1963. A waste of Pittage, it is. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2801 "2012-06-27T19:06:19Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So, you people still think you’re going to change their minds? No, because people deny the reality of racial differences for emotional reasons – not logical ones. Thus the endless invective and special pleading. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/2802 "2012-06-27T19:12:26Z")
So I skimmed through most of your posts in this last page and here’s the general gist of your argument. “Lol!” It’s very persuasive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=139) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=141)