# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/281 "2012-06-01T05:03:42Z")
The other thing would be that without a government-backed monopoly, David Duke would do about as well in the media as NDD is doing in this thread. If your views are stupid, putting them out in the open marketplace of ideas doesn’t do them any favors. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/282 "2012-06-01T05:48:19Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Kazar No, wrong, bad, untrue. The Khazars are not and never were part of the Jewish population group. Whichever idiot you read who told you that, don’t read them anymore. I’ve also never heard of any credible evidence that there was substantial intermixing between Jewish and Baltic people, but if you got that info from the same source that claimed there’s some sort of genetic connection between Jews and Khazars, you’d do better to ignore it flatly. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/283 "2012-06-01T05:50:56Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > On a more idealistic note, we don’t _need_ to ban David Duke because we can _disprove_ him as long as it’s legal to bring up his arguments in the first place. Banning someone is a very weak form of argumentation, and we can do better than that. You’re making the assumption that disproving them has value. It doesn’t, because the only people who buy what they are selling are racist themselves. As you pointed out, the one thing that keeps David Duke from influence is people absolutely refusing to deal with him. That’s what a banning is. It’s our board boycotting their hateful speech. Though, personally, I’d rather just have them banned from posting about those certain topics. In fact, I’d just ban the topic itself unless you can provide a citation ahead of time to a mod that hasn’t been discredited that really could seem to mean there are genetic differences in intelligence in people who self-identify as different races. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/284 "2012-06-01T05:53:26Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > …a mod that hasn’t been discredited… Good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/285 "2012-06-01T06:18:01Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > Good luck with that. Oh, no. I make one little mistake and now everyone has to jump on me for it. :rolleyes?: ;)😃 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/286 "2012-06-01T06:29:25Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > FWIW I got 100%. I also took many advanced classes in statistics in college. > > But I think it doesn’t matter so much. It doesn’t require a lot of intelligence or education to correctly conclude that the Egalitarian Hypothesis is false. The main requirement is the ability to discount social pressure and wishful thinking in deciding what to believe. Thing is, there are a lot of things it doesn’t take very much intelligence to conclude…that are false. And please do answer NDD’s question about the Egalitarian Hypothesis. I want to see if you know what it means. A quick Google showed that most people espousing your views have the wrong idea. Finally, you’d do well to actually contradict NDD on what you don’t agree with if you don’t want people to assume you do agree. You are defending him, after all. And he’s saying far more than just that there might be a very slight genetic intelligence difference between races. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/287 "2012-06-01T07:34:53Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Oh, god. Now I feel old. You and me both, sister. But it’s OK. They can all just get orf our lawns ! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/288 "2012-06-01T07:39:04Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The revulsion against the Holocaust made it fashionable to deny and ignore truths that had always been obvious. It is worth mentioning that the Holocaust was directed against the most superior racial group in the world. Jews are a race, now? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/289 "2012-06-01T08:50:30Z")
I have to stick up for **NDD,** here. It has long been held, going back to at least 4000 B.C.E., that the Negro Race have had a substantial affinity for grape flavored soda pop. If you’re so white and smart, how can you possibly be so stupid, you dickhole. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/290 "2012-06-01T10:00:50Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Just out of curiosity, do we have any persistent . . . let’s be kind and call them “scientific racists,” despite the oxymoronicity . . . that is, racists who do not always simply scream, but sometimes bring cites, even if they are of a pseudoscientific nature, and dishonestly defended . . . on the Board **other** than **NDD, brazil84,** and **Chen019?** I can’t think of any but those three. **Chief Pedant** , IIRC. **magellen01** and **Rand Rover** have dipped their toes into things in defence of race realists’ _background_ ideas, but I _think_ with them it’s more about defending conservative fellow travellers than scientific racism, _per se_. I certainly wouldn’t call them “persistent” on the issue. Although Rand has started threads attacking the very notion that race is a social construct, so must feel pretty strongly on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/291 "2012-06-01T10:17:04Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Until you mentioned it I had never heard of “the Equalitarian Hypothesis”. Is it the belief that every individual is intrinsically equal? I have defined it as “the claim that genetic predisposition for intelligence and other important psychological traits is distributed equally among all racial and ethnic groups.” ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/292 "2012-06-01T10:30:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Jews are a race, now? The Ashkenazim have an average IQ of 112. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/293 "2012-06-01T10:41:12Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I have defined it as “the claim that genetic predisposition for intelligence and other important psychological traits is distributed equally among all racial and ethnic groups.” I doubt that there are many people who really believe that, but there are many who go not like to be reminded that it is not true. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/294 "2012-06-01T10:44:33Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The other thing would be that without a government-backed monopoly, David Duke would do about as well in the media as NDD is doing in this thread. If your views are stupid, putting them out in the open marketplace of ideas doesn’t do them any favors. Charles Murray, whom I do agree with, has a vast following. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/295 "2012-06-01T10:50:38Z")
Well, I took the little science quiz, got all of them right except for: - One question I honesty didn’t know. - One question I think is ambiguous (actually, several are ambiguous, but this is the only one I got “wrong”). - and one question I’m confident the article’s author got wrong. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/296 "2012-06-01T10:51:11Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Just out of curiosity, do we have any persistent . . . let’s be kind and call them “scientific racists,” despite the oxymoronicity . . . that is, racists who do not always simply scream, but sometimes bring cites, even if they are of a pseudoscientific nature, and dishonestly defended . . . on the Board **other** than **NDD, brazil84,** and **Chen019?** I can’t think of any but those three. What is pseudoscientific about these cites? black and white SAT scores from 1990-91 to 2009-10 > **[Fast Facts: SAT scores (171)](https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171)** > > The NCES Fast Facts Tool provides quick answers to many education questions (National Center for Education Statistics). Get answers on Early Childhood Education, Elementary and Secondary Education and Higher Education here. black and white murder rate [http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm](http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm) international school performance > **[Who's No. 1? Finland, Japan and Korea, Says OECD Education Study - Site...](https://siteselection.com/ssinsider/snapshot/sf011210.htm)** > > Who's No. 1? Finland, Japan and Korea, Says OECD Education Study international murder rate > **[List of countries by intentional homicide rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)** > > The list of countries by homicide rate is derived from United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) data, and is expressed in number of deaths per 100,000 population per year. For example, a homicide rate of 30 out of 100,000 is presented in the table as "30", and corresponds to 0.03% of the population dying by homicide. The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary. Only UNODC-vetted data is used in the main table to maintain consistency. In some cases, i Homicide rates ... ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/297 "2012-06-01T11:02:00Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The Ashkenazim have an average IQ of 112. I… I think you really need to learn what the word “ethnicity” means. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/298 "2012-06-01T11:05:44Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > What is pseudoscientific about these cites?rl] None of those is a cite about genetics… ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/299 "2012-06-01T11:06:11Z")
Totally as an aside, I assume the content will be the usual drivel, I only dropped in because moving my mouse in the search results from **New Posts** I saw: **New Deal Democrat et. al, can you STFU?** [mouseover]We get it. You’re racist.[/mouseover] Pretty clever way to insult fellow Dopers right out in the open without the sense of impropriety. Sneaky. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/300 "2012-06-01T11:11:36Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I… I think you really need to learn what the word “ethnicity” means. The Ashkenazim are a racial group, or an ethnic group. Lets not get into a semantic argument. What matters is they are descended from the Israelites of the Old Testament, and that they have a very high average IQ. That is genetic. One does not get a higher IQ by converting to Judaism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=16)