# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 151
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3003 "2012-06-29T00:13:21Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Well, it’s clear that you’re wrong about the topic being discussed. Probably it seems that way since you are so self-deceived. Look, a few posts back you were almost certain that I had autism. Then you abandoned that claim once I offered to bet on it. What that means is that like a lot of self-deceived people, there is a standby rationality mode which kicks in when serious interests are at stake. And that you are very good at fooling yourself. Unfortunately, your mental problem is so common that it’s not even thought of as a mental problem. > [@](#): > > Yeah, this isn’t the kind of thing that normal people post. I would argue about this with you, but you have demonstrated to my satisfaction that you lack the intellectual capacity to debate in good faith, so I’m not going to continue this discussion. Lol, I guess that means you aren’t willing to put your money where your mouth is. Instead, you prefer to engage in special pleading and then exit when called on it. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3004 "2012-06-29T00:14:58Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > - > > I think if \*\*NDD \*\*and **Brazil** are still unable to grasp the relativelty simple concept of “blacks aren’t a monolithic genetic group” after 58 pages of it being pounded into their heads, I’m not sure what “monolithic genetic group” means, but I am happy to concede that the group known as “blacks” contains a lot of subgroups which are very different from eachother. Does it surprise you that I am willing to make such a concession? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3005 "2012-06-29T00:18:46Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Probably it seems that way since you are so self-deceived. > > Look, a few posts back you were almost certain that I had autism. Then you abandoned that claim once I offered to bet on it. What that means is that like a lot of self-deceived people, there is a standby rationality mode which kicks in when serious interests are at stake. And that you are very good at fooling yourself. > > Unfortunately, your mental problem is so common that it’s not even thought of as a mental problem. > > Lol, I guess that means you aren’t willing to put your money where your mouth is. Instead, you prefer to engage in special pleading and then exit when called on it. No, I still think you have Asperger syndrome, I just don’t care enough to argue about it. The slightly creepy and weird bet you proffered didn’t change my mind at all; rather the opposite, in fact. Also, that fact that you are incapable of changing your mind about anything makes this discussion singularly unproductive. To be honest I don’t know why I even bothered to write this post; you have 6 years of history to demonstrate that you’re not worth talking to. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3006 "2012-06-29T00:31:00Z")
I’m still not seeing any genetic evidence… ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3007 "2012-06-29T00:34:21Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > No, I still think you have Asperger syndrome, I just don’t care enough to argue about it. No need to argue – just take my bet and you’ll make an easy 5 grand. But of course you won’t, since your standby rationality mode will protect you from making what you know deep down is a losing bet. Just like you know deep down that the latest social intervention to “close the gap” will not actually close the gap. > [@](#): > > Also, that fact that you are incapable of changing your mind about anything makes this discussion singularly unproductive. Nonsense, that’s simply your conclusion based on your special pleading. Or will you apply the same standard to everyone posting in this thread on the other side of the debate? > [@](#): > > you have 6 years of history to demonstrate that you’re not worth talking to. Certainly not with ad homenim attacks; strawman arguments; and special pleading. Those won’t change my mind. Nor will it change my mind to point out that my position is socially unacceptable. I’m well aware of that fact. What will change my mind is actual evidence and meritorious arguments. For example, if some social intervention produces sustained and lasting achievement on the part of a reasonably large group of blacks. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3008 "2012-06-29T00:43:20Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > What will change my mind is actual evidence and meritorious arguments. For example, if some social intervention produces sustained and lasting achievement on the part of a reasonably large group of blacks. Yeah, it’s just a coincidence that in the 6 years you’ve been posting here no one has managed to provide “actual evidence and meritorious arguments” on any single argument you have ever been involved in? That’s the sort of thing that only an idiot or someone with Aspergers would believe, so that gives: NDD and you, and…anyone else? Oh, the only reason I’m still posting is because I know your Aspergers won’t allow you to permit anyone else to have the last word. That means that you’re going to be compelled to respond to this, which I find amusing. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3009 "2012-06-29T00:50:32Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Yeah, it’s just a coincidence that in the 6 years you’ve been posting here no one has managed to provide “actual evidence and meritorious arguments” on any single argument you have ever been involved in? It’s not a coincidence at all – I generally don’t make claims unless I’ve thought things through carefully. I realize this may sound strange to you, but there it is. > [@](#): > > That’s the sort of thing that only an idiot or someone with Aspergers would believe, so that gives: NDD and you, and…anyone else? Again my question: Will you apply your principles to other people in the discussion? > [@](#): > > Oh, the only reason I’m still posting is because I know your Aspergers won’t allow you to permit anyone else to have the last word. Lol, nice rationalization. Anyway, if you are confident I have Aspergers, you can make an easy 5k. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3010 "2012-06-29T00:55:59Z")
Maybe brazil84 is Mitt Romney. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3011 "2012-06-29T00:56:01Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > It’s not a coincidence at all – I generally don’t make claims unless I’ve thought things through carefully. Or…you lack the intellectual capacity to know when you’re wrong. It’s clear that you’re wrong in this thread. It’s also clear that you don’t realize you’re wrong. I bet you have 6,999 other posts that follow this same general pattern. > [@](#): > > Again my question: Will you apply your principles to other people in the discussion? Find me someone else in this thread who has been posting for 6 years, has nearly 7,000 posts, and has never changed their mind about anything, and I personally guarantee that I will think they are as fucked-up as you are. > [@](#): > > Lol, nice rationalization. > > Anyway, if you are confident I have Aspergers, you can make an easy 5k. Yeah, keep responding, person without Aspergers. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3012 "2012-06-29T00:59:11Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Or…you lack the intellectual capacity to know when you’re wrong. It’s clear that you’re wrong in this thread. It’s also clear that you don’t realize you’re wrong. Or perhaps the mote is in your own eye? How are you so sure? What are some major things that you’ve changed your mind about. > [@](#): > > Find me someone else in this thread who has been posting for 6 years, has nearly 7,000 posts, and has never changed their mind about anything, and I personally guarantee that I will think they are as fucked-up as you are. Anything major? Or anything at all? > [@](#): > > Yeah, keep responding, person without Aspergers. Lol, you too. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3013 "2012-06-29T01:06:34Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Those who flame me are bullies and cowards. Okay, but tomorrow I can be brave and conciliatory, but you’ll still be a douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3014 "2012-06-29T01:07:34Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Or perhaps the mote is in your own eye? How are you so sure? What are some major things that you’ve changed your mind about. I’ll change my mind about you, when you admit that you’re wrong. If you were an honest debater that would have happened in this thread already. > [@](#): > > Lol, you too. Dance, monkey. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3015 "2012-06-29T01:12:02Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I’ll change my mind about you, when you admit that you’re wrong. Oh, so you can’t point to a single issue you’ve changed your mind about? > [@](#): > > If you were an honest debater that would have happened in this thread already. I’m sure it seems so since you are so self-deceived. > [@](#): > > Dance, monkey. Sure no, problem. Now please answer my question from before: > [@](#): > > Anything major? Or anything at all? ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3016 "2012-06-29T01:16:49Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Dance, monkey. This is hilarious - thank you, **EE**! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3017 "2012-06-29T01:24:17Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Oh, so you can’t point to a single issue you’ve changed your mind about? Are you saying that if I can’t point to a single issue that I’ve changed my mind about, that there might be something wrong with me? > [@](#): > > Now please answer my question from before: Maybe I will if you keep asking, which I know you will. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3018 "2012-06-29T01:29:15Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Are you saying that if I can’t point to a single issue that I’ve changed my mind about, that there might be something wrong with me? Yes, it will show that you engage in special pleading. ETA: Either that or you are a hypocrite. > [@](#): > > Maybe I will if you keep asking, which I know you will. Wrong again – I have my own rules of debate and one rule is that you need to answer reasonable questions so that I can understand your position. So this is the last time I will ask: > [@](#): > > Anything major? Or anything at all? And another question: Does it not count unless they explicitly state that they are changing their mind? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3019 "2012-06-29T01:32:49Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Yes, it will show that you engage in special pleading. Gosh, that sounds bad. Can I at least go 6,500 more posts and 3 years of not changing my mind about anything before it becomes an issue? > [@](#): > > Wrong again – I have my own rules of debate Of course you do. And you’re not mentally ill at all. > [@](#): > > So this is the last time I will ask: Bet it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3020 "2012-06-29T01:43:23Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Gosh, that sounds bad. Can I at least go 6,500 more posts and 3 years of not changing my mind about anything before it becomes an issue? I was asking about changing your mind on stuff in general in life – not about your posts on a message board. Of course you prefer to blur the distinction, but there it is. > [@](#): > > Of course you do. And you’re not mentally ill at all. Correct. > [@](#): > > Bet it isn’t. Wrong yet again. See, I don’t engage with people who refuse to answer reasonable questions so that I can understand their position. In your case, you are trying to hide your double standard. Goodbye. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3021 "2012-06-29T01:47:06Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Okay, but tomorrow I can be brave and conciliatory, but you’ll still be a douchebag. You are still a fool who thinks your insults are an adequate response to my facts. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3022 "2012-06-29T01:48:32Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Wrong yet again. See, I don’t engage with people who refuse to answer reasonable questions so that I can understand their position. In your case, you are trying to hide your double standard. > > Goodbye. And this is how Asperger man gets the last word: pretends he doesn’t see my posts. To a person with normal functionality this would seem insane, but we’re not talking about a person with normal functionality, we’re talking about **Brazil84**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=150) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=152)