# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 152
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3023 "2012-06-29T01:50:23Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Find me someone else in this thread who has been posting for 6 years, has nearly 7,000 posts, and has never changed their mind about anything, and I personally guarantee that I will think they are as fucked-up as you are. I used to think liberals were tolerant of other opinions. When I joined my first internet forum I thought that only right wing posters were vulgar and abusive. I have been on The Straight Dope for two years. Initially I thought this was a civilized forum where controversial topics could be discussed in a civil manner. Changing my mind about all that was a disappointing experience. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3024 "2012-06-29T01:54:17Z")
Since nobody actually gives a shit whether **b84’s** asshole nature and inability to understand simple concepts can be blamed on autism, and since he’s evidently in a betting mood with cash to burn, why not something more relevant? Have an impartial third party pick five geneticists and ask them whether his theory is correct, and that hard scientific evidence shows that “blacks” (as he loosely defines them) are overall less intelligent than “whites” (his grouping) and this lower intelligence can be traced to specific patterns in their genes. If a majority say he’s right, he gets the cash; if not, he loses. Still feel pretty good about your chances, high roller? (Someone who hasn’t yet been “banned” may need to convey this wager to him.) ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3025 "2012-06-29T01:55:53Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I used to think liberals were tolerant of other opinions. When I joined my first internet forum I thought that only right wing posters were vulgar and abusive. > > I have been on The Straight Dope for two years. Initially I thought this was a civilized forum where controversial topics could be discussed in a civil manner. > > Changing my mind about all that was a disappointing experience. ☹ You’re full of hate and you have obvious intellectual limitations; you should prepare yourself for many future disappointments. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3026 "2012-06-29T02:10:03Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Certainly not with ad homenim attacks; strawman arguments; and special pleading. Those won’t change my mind. > > Nor will it change my mind to point out that my position is socially unacceptable. I’m well aware of that fact. > > What will change my mind is actual evidence and meritorious arguments. For example, if some social intervention produces sustained and lasting achievement on the part of a reasonably large group of blacks. The New York Times November 20, 2006 When President Bush signed his sweeping education law a year into his presidency, it set 2014 as the deadline by which schools were to close the test-score gaps between minority and white students that have persisted since standardized testing began. Now, as Congress prepares to consider reauthorizing the law next year, researchers and a half-dozen recent studies, including three issued last week, are reporting little progress toward that goal. > **[Schools Slow in Closing Gaps Between Races (Published 2006)](https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/20/education/20gap.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&ei=5070&en=e1b56aad3e0f9451&ex=1165035600)** > > As Congress prepares to consider renewing the No Child Left Behind law next year, studies show that disparities in test scores continue. If No Child Left Behind had succeeded in its goals I would have changed my opinion about the reason for the race gap. Because it has failed, my opinion about that reason has been reinforced. Although the failure of NCLB does not seem to have changed the opinions of those who flame me over this issue, I suspect that behind their truculent assurances that the failure means nothing they find that failure disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3027 "2012-06-29T02:17:14Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ll put it another way, NDD- if this were an experiment to determine the cause of the “achievement gap”, you would not have gotten past the Hypothesis stage. You’ve made a scientific hypothesis- one that can be tested. But it hasn’t been tested. Maybe it will be some day. You retreat to the redoubt of maintaining that genes for intelligence have not been discovered. What will you do when that redoubt is breached? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3028 "2012-06-29T02:22:30Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > I just fucking hate him. Hatred is a strong emotion for someone you disagree with, but who has never harmed you. It implies that you suspect that what I say is true, and you hate being reminded of it. People do not get angry when opinions they are confident are true are challenged. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3029 "2012-06-29T02:32:56Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > [Public education](http://nces.ed.gov/naal/lit_history.asp). In 1979, which is the latest date given, blacks were still four times more likely to be illiterate than whites. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3030 "2012-06-29T02:35:26Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The explanation is easy- it’s a bad program, and bad programs fail. All programs designed to bridge the race gap have failed. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3031 "2012-06-29T02:37:49Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The most diverse environment I’ve ever been in, personally, was in the Navy on a submarine. We had lots of black folks, lots of white folks, a few hispanics, and a few asians. We had black officers and white officers, and black, hispanic, and white Chief Petty Officers (senior enlisted). There was no difference on average in the job performance of the “races” onboard the submarine. And racism of any kind was completely unacceptable. > > Want an example of an organization with a (relatively speaking) long history of integration? Look at the US military. There’s no affirmative action within the military, and racism is not tolerated at all (in my experience). You make it by merit and that’s it (ok, for Admirals and Generals sometimes it’s ass-kissing and politics). We had good white sailors and bad white sailors, and good black sailors and bad black sailors. In order to get into the military one must pass a mental aptitude test. Blacks are much less likely to pass than whites. Blacks who do pass are less representative of blacks in the general population than whites who pass. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3032 "2012-06-29T02:44:09Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You are obviously intolerant of beliefs that anger you, and which you cannot refute. I am no more extreme than Charles Murray. He is a respected political scientist. All you need to do to refute me is to demonstrate that blacks behave and perform as well as whites, or else explain their high rates of crime and illegitimacy and their low average intelligence in ways that somehow absolve them of responsibility. Does that prick also post here? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3033 "2012-06-29T02:49:46Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > FOR FUCK’S SAKE, TAKE IT BACK TO THE OTHER THREAD! > > There’s no damned reason to split the same tired argument into multiple threads. To be fair my emphasis was slightly different. I don’t give a shit about pieces of braindead faecal matter like NDD, I’m not pitting that poster in particular or his various cousins, I’m pissed off that the powers that be on here allow such a disruptive, malign poster free rein. It’s very, very, off putting for a lot of decent (and indecent) posters on here. For some reason I can’t call you a cunt, but I can refer to people as negroes and orientals, and spout halfbaked racist “science” and continue to do so ad nauseum. Fuck that shit. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3034 "2012-06-29T02:50:55Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Hatred is a strong emotion for someone you disagree with, but who has never harmed you. It implies that you suspect that what I say is true, and you hate being reminded of it. People do not get angry when opinions they are confident are true are challenged. Oh my god, you’re so right, the edifice is crumbling. I’m sorry NDD, you were right all along. How could I have been so blind? HOW? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3035 "2012-06-29T03:23:02Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > You are still a fool who thinks your insults are an adequate response to my facts. I’m sure it’s been pointed out to you before, but if not----- > [@](#): > > "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3036 "2012-06-29T03:24:19Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Serious question here…why does it bother you so much? I mean, it’s not like he or they are getting any traction here with their bullshit. Rather like CTers, they are given short shrift here, and generally come out of these threads humiliated and completely discredited. And, generally, that carries over into other threads as well. So…why does it bug you? I think this is a perfect place for the few idiotic racists and CT nutters to bring their bullshit and have their asses handed to them…over and over again. If they aren’t smart enough to see how badly they are getting beat up here (and I freely concede, just skimming the latest NDD wankfest, that he’s got an intelligence rating of about .8 gonzos, which is only slightly smarter than a massively brain damaged sponge), most posters and at a guess most lurkers on THIS board certainly are. It’s better, IMHO, to shine the bright light into the dark corners than to let them fester by avoiding distasteful and evil topics like racism. > > JMHO there, FWIW. > > -XT Precisely. Believe it or not, there are those who still have a lot to learn on the topics that these racist posters bring up. I certainly learn a lot during the ‘debates’ that I read voraciously in GD. I read those threads and never post for a reason…there are posters in those threads who are taking apart racist arguments like fucking surgeons, and I’m watching and learning. Staying the fuck out of the way and learning a lot of shit that can help me to help my kid to battle ignorance when it comes to her. That is useful. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3037 "2012-06-29T03:27:34Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > As is usual for your statements you claim a lack of evidence when it is abundant. That the Neanderthals were less intelligent than the Cro Magnons who displaced them is not even controversial among paleontologists. At the contrary, it’s one of the most controversial topic. I’m fascinated by Neanderthals, have read quite a lot about them, and paleontologists definitely have widely divergent opinions about Neanderthals’ intelligence, creativity, ability to speak, etc… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3038 "2012-06-29T03:30:23Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Your complaining that **New Deal** is posting in his own thread? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3039 "2012-06-29T03:30:46Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > I’m sure it’s been pointed out to you before, but if not----- “Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.” When have I ever been mistaken about a factual assertion? Quote it and paste it here. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3040 "2012-06-29T04:14:59Z")
[QUOTE=Incomprehension] {snip} They don’t even have any Neanderthal ancestors.{snip} [/QUOTE] Wait, _what_? Y’all remember the time before we found out that Neandertals and humans cross-bred, and calling someone a “Neandertal” was an insult? And, **Incomprehension** now claims that because “Africans” do not have Neandertal genes they are less human than non-“Africans”? My jaw has dropped so far I gotta go get something to bind my mouth shut. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3041 "2012-06-29T04:50:41Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > When have I ever been mistaken about a factual assertion? Well, being suppressed is contradictory to the concept of continuing to post. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3042 "2012-06-29T05:01:00Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, being suppressed is contradictory to the concept of continuing to post. How about you actually quote him where he said he was suppressed? All I could find is this: > [@](#): > > Those who flame me are bullies and cowards. They want to suppress a honest and public discussion of black crime, black illegitimacy, and inferior black intellectual performance. Clearly there are people who want to suppress NDD. Just look at the title of the thread. But perhaps I missed something? If so, I apologize in advance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=153)