# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3283 "2012-07-01T20:14:45Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> How many are on your ignore list now?

Ironically, as this thread grows longer for all of us, for braz it steadily shrinks as more and more posters are ignored. Soon, on his screen, it’ll be just him and NDD, and soon after that, just him.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3284 "2012-07-01T20:25:50Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> I must insist, it is [**84**](http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Francis_Aaron)

Fitting as it is.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3285 "2012-07-01T20:40:27Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Like we need another thread on race and racism.
> 
> [Racism: A bit too obvious?? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=657103)

We need to start banning some of these fuckers before this becomes the next SF. \*\*NDD \*\*has demonstrated that he’s not intelligent enough to be on a board devoted to fighting ignorance, and \*\*Brazil84 \*\*has admitted that he has mental problems that prevent him from incorporating new evidence into his worldview, so it seems pointless to allow him to continue posting to GD.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3286 "2012-07-01T20:42:49Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Ironically, as this thread grows longer for all of us, for braz it steadily shrinks as more and more posters are ignored. Soon, on his screen, it’ll be just him and NDD, and soon after that, just him.

Except he doesn’t actually put anyone on his real ignore list(the one SDMP provides us all) but only on his imaginary one.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3287 "2012-07-01T21:03:39Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> I have not found reliable statistics of how the end of Apartheid effected the murder rate in South Africa.

It’s been steadily declining since the consolidation of Black rule. Down by 50% since the end of Apartheid. I realise this must be disappointing for you.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3288 "2012-07-01T21:06:34Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It’s been steadily declining since the consolidation of Black rule. Down by 50% since the end of Apartheid. I realise this must be disappointing for you.

It is not disappointing to me at all. I would appreciate if you could substantiate that with a link to a credible source, like an UN agency or something like that.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3289 "2012-07-01T21:15:49Z")

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> [@LeeshaJoy](#):
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> Cite?

See the links I posted in Post #3099.

I take it you decline to answer the questions I asked you earlier?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3290 "2012-07-01T21:20:13Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Except he doesn’t actually put anyone on his real ignore list(the one SDMP provides us all) but only on his imaginary one.

Well, let’s test that:  
Hey, brazil84, a Nigerian prince needs your help to transfer money out of his country and will reward you handsomely…  
No, wait…  
Hey, brazil84, a _Scandinavian_ prince needs your help to transfer money out of his country and will reward you handsomely…

And now we play the waiting game…  
And when that gets boring, we play Hungry Hungry Hippos.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3291 "2012-07-01T21:35:12Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Except he doesn’t actually put anyone on his real ignore list(the one SDMP provides us all) but only on his imaginary one.

I’m pretty sure he saw the “It’s a Good Life” episode of Twilight Zone and mistook it for a documentary…

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3292 "2012-07-01T21:38:18Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> We need to start banning some of these fuckers before this becomes the next SF. \*\*NDD \*\*has demonstrated that he’s not intelligent enough to be on a board devoted to fighting ignorance, and \*\*Brazil84 \*\*has admitted that he has mental problems that prevent him from incorporating new evidence into his worldview, so it seems pointless to allow him to continue posting to GD.

So you would have us 86 84?

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3293 "2012-07-01T21:48:53Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> It is not disappointing to me at all. I would appreciate if you could substantiate that with a link to a credible source, like an UN agency or something like that.

Except that you have consistently demonstrated an inability to recognize credible sources, and an inability in differentiating them from non-credible sources, so what would be the point?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3294 "2012-07-01T21:57:34Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> It is not disappointing to me at all. I would appreciate if you could substantiate that with a link to a credible source, like an UN agency or something like that.

This is the last time I post in this thread:  
there’s a link to the source you want _ **in your own fucking cite** _, you brain-dead racist cocktwat.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3295 "2012-07-01T21:58:23Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> Your answer over my head? HA! You can’t even see past my kneecaps, let alone lodge an argument above my head, you demented asswipe.
> 
> No, you didn’t answer his arguments. He [noted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15221517&postcount=2953) that the demographic breakdown of Honduras showed that its population was about 90% white or mestizo, whereas only about 7% is indigenous Amerinidian and 2% black, and asked how (by implication, given your racist horseshit theories) this could be so.

Your vulgarity discredits what you say, and ought to embarrass civil people who agree with you, or who at least pretend to.

Mestizos are a hybrid race of whites and American Indians. Honduras gets its high murder rate from a number of factors including the American Indian ancestry of the mestizos. Countries where nearly everyone is white or Oriental nearly always have low murder rates because whites and Orientals are at five to ten thousand years away from a paleolithic way of life. The only white country I am aware of with a high murder rate is Russia. The only Oriental country is North Korea.

> **[List of countries by intentional homicide rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)**
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> The list of countries by homicide rate is derived from United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) data, and is expressed in number of deaths per 100,000 population per year. For example, a homicide rate of 30 out of 100,000 is presented in the table as "30", and corresponds to 0.03% of the population dying by homicide. The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary. Only UNODC-vetted data is used in the main table to maintain consistency. In some cases, i Homicide rates ...

Race is not the only factor influencing a country’s murder rate, but it seems to be the most important.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3296 "2012-07-01T22:03:40Z")

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…and he couldn’t even respond intelligently to "what does ‘correlation does not indicate causation?’ " mean.  
Hey genius, what’s Jefferson’s estimated IQ today?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3297 "2012-07-01T22:12:33Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> . . .l
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> Race is not the only factor influencing a country’s murder rate, but it seems to be the most important.

You mean like that dude with the mustache and the shiny black boots?

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3298 "2012-07-01T22:17:56Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I’m not sure who that is.

It’s just more Chinatown…

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3299 "2012-07-01T22:23:02Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> This is the last time I post in this thread:  
> there’s a link to the source you want _ **in your own fucking cite** _, you brain-dead racist cocktwat.

I could respond in kind, but I decline to.

My post says that from 2000 to 2009 the murder rate in South Africa declined from 50 per 100,000 inhabitants to 34. That is an impressive decline while leaving South Africa with a horrendous murder rate. What I have been trying to find out is what the murder rate was like before the end of apartheid in 1994.

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A survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries.[4] Total crime per capita was 10th out of the 60 countries in the dataset.  
The United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute have also conducted research[5] on the victims of crime which shows the picture of South African crime as more typical of a developing country…

Around 50 people are murdered in South Africa each day.[6] The murder rate has increased by an order of magnitude in South Africa during the last 40 years…

According to a survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the UN, South Africa was ranked first for rapes per capita.[15] The incidence of rape has led to the country being referred to as the “rape capital of the world”.[16] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year.[17] More than 25 per cent of South African men questioned in a survey published by the Medical Research Council (MRC) in June 2009 admitted to rape; of those, nearly half said they had raped more than one person.[18][19] Three out of four of those who had admitted rape indicated that they had attacked for the first time during their teens.[18] South Africa has amongst the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world…

Since apartheid rule ended in 1994 and Nelson Mandela and the ANC were voted into government, over 3000 white farmers have been murdered on their farms.

> **[Crime in South Africa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa)**
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> Crime in South Africa includes all violent and non-violent crimes that take place in the country of South Africa, or otherwise within its jurisdiction. When compared to other countries, South Africa has notably high rates of violent crime and has a reputation for consistently having one of the highest murder rates in the world. The country also experiences high rates of organised crime relative to other countries.
> Crime levels have been attributed to poverty, problems with delivery of public...

Tell me MrDibble, have you ever raped anyone?

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3300 "2012-07-01T22:26:27Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> You mean like that dude with the mustache and the shiny black boots?

I am talking about violent street crime. Germany has one of the lowest murder rates in the world.

> **[List of countries by intentional homicide rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)**
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> The list of countries by homicide rate is derived from United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) data, and is expressed in number of deaths per 100,000 population per year. For example, a homicide rate of 30 out of 100,000 is presented in the table as "30", and corresponds to 0.03% of the population dying by homicide. The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary. Only UNODC-vetted data is used in the main table to maintain consistency. In some cases, i Homicide rates ...

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3301 "2012-07-01T22:37:34Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> I am talking about violent street crime. Germany has one of the lowest murder rates in the world.
> 
> [List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)

The second sentence in your linked material, \*The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary.[1] \* - sort of sums up your posting style. 😉

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3302 "2012-07-01T22:44:17Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> The second sentence in your linked material, \*The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary.[1] \* - sort of sums up your posting style. 😉

Here is another source for you that agrees in essence with the first one I posted:

> **[Countries Compared by Crime \> Murders \> Per capita. International...](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murders/Per-capita)**
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> Number of convictions for intentional homicides in the given year. Per capita figures expressed per 1 million population.

This is what the State Department has to say about crime in Germany:

CRIME: Violent crime is rare in Germany.

> **[404 - Page Not Found](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/404.html)**

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