# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 172
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3423 "2012-07-02T14:53:06Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > One of the interesting things about this board compared to others is its tolerance of genuinely heinous points of view. Hatred can’t be combated by ignoring it. I have hoped since I was a wee lad that eventually people would come to understand that we all have so much in common that our differences should be embraced and cherished. > > “Infinite diversity in infinite combinations” – Jean Lisette Aroeste. It’s not very good for diversity or the board if the proliferation of racists drives posters away from the board. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3424 "2012-07-02T14:58:57Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Sure, but how many threads on this racist topic are presently active on the SDMB? Seems like a lot here in the Pit and in GD. I’m with George Bush on this one: “There ought to be limits to freedom.” There should be no limits on telling the truth. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3425 "2012-07-02T15:00:04Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s not very good for diversity or the board if the proliferation of racists drives posters away from the board. Quite a few scoundrels have been trying to drive me away because I tell truths they do not like to be reminded of. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3426 "2012-07-02T15:01:28Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Why are we allowing the pig fuckers another thread to shit in? Restricted language in the Pit The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock **and variants** Expressions not referred to above but which are normally considered vulgar (e.g., asshole, dick, prick, bitch, kiss my ass) are subject to the following limitations: - occasional use only - no posts consisting solely or mainly of vulgarities. Don’t play games. For example, don’t say, “X [some offboard personality] is a cunt, and you’re like X.” This list is subject to revision. > **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)** > > The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Expressions not... ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3427 "2012-07-02T15:04:34Z")
Junior modding is against the rules, too, you racist asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3428 "2012-07-02T15:05:34Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Not exactly. As children grow older, their genes play a greater role in determining their IQ. What it would mean is that the association between parent IQ and child IQ is stronger at older ages of the child. Measurement of IQ also becomes more reliable after early childhood. The study I’m familiar with making this conclusion would be Plomin et al., 1990, but it is far from well-established. One study does not establishment make, and IIRC that study was a behavioral genetics study (wherein one infers the effect of genetics). Molecular studies of IQ have struggled - 282 individual genes have been associated with specific forms of mental retardation, but only six SNPs have been associated with normal intellectual functioning, and together they have been able to explain only 1% of the variance in cognitive ability. This information is available in the American Psychologist article (Nisbett et al., 2012) that was previously provided as part of one of these interminable threads. This, to this point it does not look like genetic factors will be able to explain variability in general cognitive functioning very well. On the other hand, environmental factors explain a great deal of the variability. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3429 "2012-07-02T15:10:55Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > First, you define your terms. Not unless you can tell me in good faith that you don’t understand what I am claiming. Do you really not understand what I mean when I say that “black = greater incidence of crime and smoking = greater chance lung cancer”? It looks to me like you are trying to play the same game as **Inner Stickler** , i.e. you are trying to get me to invest a lot of energy in the discussion without making any investment yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3430 "2012-07-02T15:11:17Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Sure, but how many threads on this racist topic are presently active on the SDMB? Seems like a lot here in the Pit and in GD. I’m with George Bush on this one: “There ought to be limits to freedom.” Ok, so don’t post in the ones you don’t care about. Until we get a whiny thread in ATMB about someone shaking the dust of our racist board off their feet, I’m not going to worry about it. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3431 "2012-07-02T15:11:45Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I suppose it depends on whether he were able to engage in reasonable discussion about the actual evidence for heliocentrism (by the way, isn’t heliocentrism the opposite of the position he would be advancing?) :smack: I meant geocentrist. My bad. > [@Great Antibob](#): > > Sure, if this was GD. > > But, as has been repeatedly mentioned to (and pretty much ignored by) NDD, this is the Pit, and such behavior is at least tolerated here. “Look, I came in here for an argument!” “Oh…oh, I’m sorry, this is Abuse.” “Oh, I see, well that explains it.” Carry on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3432 "2012-07-02T15:13:31Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I think he’s suggesting that executing all criminals would reduce recidivism. Well, won’t it, by definition, reduce recidivism? I think his actual thesis is that executing criminals will somehow remove “crime” genes from the pool, thus reducing the overall crime rate. It is, of course, a nonsensical idea not backed by anything remotely scientific, but that’s SOP for NDD. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3433 "2012-07-02T15:13:59Z")
Yeah, what a shock that the person making a claim needs to do some legwork. This is a new and unusual concept that has never been tried before. Jesus, you’re a fucking disingenuous asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3434 "2012-07-02T15:14:38Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Until we get a whiny thread in ATMB about someone shaking the dust of our racist board off their feet, I’m not going to worry about it. It’s not a full thread, and not whiny but it is from ATMB: > [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/623976/167): > > Given the choice between keeping interesting, thought-provoking posters like **MrDibble** around, and keeping folks like **NDD** around, surely this is a no-brainer? > > The tolerance for racism and sexism around here have led my wife to abandon these boards, and surely she’s not the only one. Keeping bad posters around drives away good posters. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3435 "2012-07-02T15:15:20Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > It looks to me like you are trying to play the same game as **Inner Stickler** , i.e. you are trying to get me to invest a lot of energy in the discussion without making any investment yourself. Someone’s getting upset that their niche is being encroached on… ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3436 "2012-07-02T15:18:56Z")
The rationale appears to be, “if all criminals are incarcerated, then no criminals will be committing crimes.” And, just for the record, NDD is most certainly and incontrovertibly a racist. Given the standard definition of the word, NDD has exemplified that belief by his many posts on the subject. What else are we to call him? The fact that this word ‘racist’ has a negative connotation in our modern culture is indicative of the positive social changes that have occurred over the past 60+ years. It used to be an accepted norm. Now it is an outlier. I always look for the silver lining. Perhaps I am a dreamer. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3437 "2012-07-02T15:21:18Z")
NDD is the reason why **we can’t have nice things**. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3438 "2012-07-02T15:22:18Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, won’t it, by definition, reduce recidivism? > > I think his actual thesis is that executing criminals will somehow remove “crime” genes from the pool, thus reducing the overall crime rate. It is, of course, a nonsensical idea not backed by anything remotely scientific, but that’s SOP for NDD. Well, they used to hang people in England for theft and just look how well that worked - after a few generations, there was no theft at all. Well, except for those other thefts, but they don’t count. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3439 "2012-07-02T15:22:22Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, won’t it, by definition, reduce recidivism? > > I think his actual thesis is that executing criminals will somehow remove “crime” genes from the pool, thus reducing the overall crime rate. It is, of course, a nonsensical idea not backed by anything remotely scientific, but that’s SOP for NDD. My suggestion that everyone with a felony conviction be executed was not intended to be taken seriously. When I realized that it was I retracted it. I posted that suggestion in a thread advocating the execution of religious people I hope that suggestion was not made seriously too. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3440 "2012-07-02T15:26:07Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > This, to this point it does not look like genetic factors will be able to explain variability in general cognitive functioning very well. On the other hand, environmental factors explain a great deal of the variability. Then why are racial differences in average intelligence so intractable? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3441 "2012-07-02T15:26:37Z")
Who wants to start another thread flaming this one? We need more of those too. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3442 "2012-07-02T15:34:44Z")
NDD, the problem with this is that the debate is over. In scientific circles, the idea of “races” being as simple as Black/White/Asian is dead and has been dead for decades. This isn’t PC – science tends to not give a shit about PC. This is simply the results of the research. So when someone comes and brings up the topic again, saying “You’re a racist” as a means to devalue their argument is like saying “You’re a creationist” as a means to devalue a creationist’s comments on the theory of evolution. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=171) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=173)