# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 173
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3443 "2012-07-02T15:37:04Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, won’t it, by definition, reduce recidivism? > > I think his actual thesis is that executing criminals will somehow remove “crime” genes from the pool, thus reducing the overall crime rate. It is, of course, a nonsensical idea not backed by anything remotely scientific, but that’s SOP for NDD. I’d say it’s just as likely to increase the crime rate, as you’d only be weeding out the criminals dumb enough to get caught. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3444 "2012-07-02T15:37:37Z")
Why isn’t this piece of shit banned yet? Is what he posts not hate speech? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3445 "2012-07-02T15:41:54Z")
Well, I’ll let the mods cogitate on that. If they decide a moratorium on racial threads is needed to woo back LHoD’s wife, then god speed. I’ll note that sexism is also cited as a reason for her leaving though and the board has far more misogynistic assholes than racist douchebags and the general response of the posting body to accusations of sexism is cracks about rape month. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3446 "2012-07-02T15:47:53Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Then why are racial differences in average intelligence so intractable? They are not intractable. Quite to the contrary, the evidence shows that racial differences in intelligence are quite malleable. You’ve been provided with an up to date comprehensive review of the literature on this topic. Why haven’t you read it yet? ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3447 "2012-07-02T15:48:27Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > People aren’t calling you a racist as a way of refuting your arguments. They are calling you a racist because you are a racist. You start with an assumption that blacks are inferior, and then cherry pick the data to fit that assumption. Whoa here. Of COURSE Blacks are inferior to me. However, that is not racist. EVERYONE is inferior to me! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3448 "2012-07-02T15:52:08Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Why isn’t this piece of shit banned yet? Is what he posts not hate speech? [Apparently not](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653993). ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3449 "2012-07-02T15:54:50Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Then why are racial differences in average intelligence so intractable? What makes you think they are? As has been pointed out several times, IQ scores are converging as developing nations have a more pronounced Flynn Effect. If you’re talking about academic achievement between ethnic minorities, that’s a different thing where intelligence is just one input. For example, here in the UK children of South Asian descent do poorly academically on average. Currently they are doing slightly better than black children but it has been the other way round in past years (e.g. 2006). What race are people of South Asian descent and if they are classified as a stupid race, why is India now enjoying such growth and technical ingenuity? ETA: Ah, beaten to the punch ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3450 "2012-07-02T16:03:11Z")
In all seriousness, it is not a horrible thing to find out you are racist. What matters is what you do when you find this out. For myself, when I was younger I thought I was enlightened. However, I grew up in a very isolated, white rural area and didn’t realize the effect of this until I found myself teaching many Black students. I realized I was racist when I was SURPRISED that Black students were doing well in my classes. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3451 "2012-07-02T16:07:37Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I have demonstrated in my posts that there is a strong correlation between the racial composition of a country and the murder rate. I have also pointed out that the correlation is not one to one. Correlation is not…oh, never mind, you simply don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3452 "2012-07-02T16:09:50Z")
Oh, for fuck’s sake. Not another one of these bullshit threads. Mods, what about the occasionally-invoked rule requiring one-trick ponies to confine their one-trick horseshit to one thread at a time? Please? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3453 "2012-07-02T16:28:56Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > What makes you think they are? I don’t know about NDD, but for me it’s the fact that black achievement stays significantly below that of whites. Given the poor conditions in the Third World in terms of medicine; education; law; nutrition; and sanitation, I think it’s pretty likely that black achievement there can be raised. But raised to the level of equivalent whites? The experience in the United States is not encouraging, to put it politely. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3454 "2012-07-02T16:46:54Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I agree with this. I’m pretty confident that one can cherry pick a few countries or political subdivisions to generate a negative correlation between blacks and crime. Appropriately, in this case one of the cherries was sitting right at the top of the list. No picking, bending or stooping required. Which probably does little to discourage you or **No Deal Dumbo Prat** from picking, bending and stooping. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3455 "2012-07-02T16:49:38Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > :smack: > > I meant geocentrist. My bad. > > “Look, I came in here for an argument!” > > “Oh…oh, I’m sorry, this is Abuse.” > > “Oh, I see, well that explains it.” > > Carry on. 😃 I missed that entirely. I read the word, and just assumed he meant “geocentrist”. A lesson there about the way cognitive function works in practice. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3456 "2012-07-02T16:51:00Z")
I did the same thing. I blame a deficiency in morning stimulants. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3457 "2012-07-02T16:53:02Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t know about NDD, but for me it’s the fact that black achievement stays significantly below that of whites. > > Given the poor conditions in the Third World in terms of medicine; education; law; nutrition; and sanitation, I think it’s pretty likely that black achievement there can be raised. But raised to the level of equivalent whites? The experience in the United States is not encouraging, to put it politely. And how are “black people” defined, exactly? What genetic commonalities do they have that distinguishes them from whites? Every time someone asks you this question you try to change the subject. Is this becaseu of stupidity or trollism, or mental illness, or why? I find it encouraging that the ones arguing that there’s a genetic cause of black underachievement are objectively the dumbest members of the board. I think that’s because the non-dumb ones long ago realized that there’s no genetic group called “black people.” So we have what we have here, and no ones likes it any more than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3458 "2012-07-02T17:20:30Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > And how are “black people” defined, exactly? What genetic commonalities do they have that distinguishes them from whites? Every time someone asks you this question you try to change the subject. Is this becaseu of stupidity or trollism, or mental illness, or why? > > I find it encouraging that the ones arguing that there’s a genetic cause of black underachievement are objectively the dumbest members of the board. I think that’s because the non-dumb ones long ago realized that there’s no genetic group called “black people.” So we have what we have here, and no ones likes it any more than I do. Actually, lets run up the scorecard for the pro-genetic cause team: **NDD** : Fucking idiot. Consistently posts cites that contradict his own position. Unable to comprehend counterarguments. Small penis. Once committed incest. **Brazil84** : Creepy, crazy, and stupid. Has admitted that he suffers from autism that for the past 6 years has made him incapable of changing his mind, his opinion, or his clothes. If people start to crack his shield of stupidity he puts them on “ignore” (but secretly reads their posts and seeths). Thinks we don’t know. Judge Wapner! **Chen019** : Sock for **Brazil84**. Has been member of board for 3 years, but posts only on one topic. Doesn’t understand that topic. **Various SF members** : Drawn to racist stupidity like maggots to rotting meat. See that imbiciles like \*\*NDD \*\*and \*\*Brazil84 \*\*are allowed to continue to post and decide they’ll feel right at home here. Will start threads that will inevitably contain the words “riot,” “savage,” or “IQ.” Live in a dirty mobile home with holes in the walls, unemployed, never graduated high school, would score well below average on any conceivable test of IQ, should probably be doing something other than posting racist stupidities on this message board (like cleaning their dirty mobile home). ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3459 "2012-07-02T17:20:41Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t know about NDD, but for me it’s the fact that black achievement stays significantly below that of whites. > > Given the poor conditions in the Third World in terms of medicine; education; law; nutrition; and sanitation, I think it’s pretty likely that black achievement there can be raised. But raised to the level of equivalent whites? The experience in the United States is not encouraging, to put it politely. If all blacks were less smart than all whites I might tend to agree, but as I’m sure you would agree there are lots of intelligent black people and dim whites. I’m a black mensan and I see many others at the meetups. Likewise there are black people that have achieved a great deal of success in many fields. So _if anything_ it’s just averages we’re talking about. The question becomes whether a lower average IQ would prevent a country from becoming prosperous. Personally I doubt it. I think most people are not particularly bright or stupid, and that’s more than adequate for most jobs. If you want a serious discussion on why some parts of the developing world are genuinely developing and why much of africa is stagnating, I would enjoy that. Or why some ethnic minorities – black, hispanic and south asian often underperform; great topic of discussion too. But the pure genetic explanation is just based on emotion and has been shown to be flawed in a number of ways. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3460 "2012-07-02T17:27:31Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > I missed that entirely. I read the word, and just assumed he meant “geocentrist”. A lesson there about the way cognitive function works in practice. I caught it because I have nothing but the best, hand picked, lily white genes available on the market today. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3461 "2012-07-02T17:33:51Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Oh, for fuck’s sake. Not another one of these bullshit threads. Mods, what about the occasionally-invoked rule requiring one-trick ponies to confine their one-trick horseshit to one thread at a time? Please? Unfortunately the main bastard has that covered, there was flurry of posts into other subjects just recently; usually very short comments, so there, he is not a one trick pony; but as usual, a jerk that agrees with others is still a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/3462 "2012-07-02T17:36:59Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > If all blacks were less smart than all whites I might tend to agree, but as I’m sure you would agree there are lots of intelligent black people and stupid whites. I’m a black mensan and I see many others at the meetups. Likewise there are black people that have achieved a great deal of success in many fields. > > So _if anything_ it’s just averages we’re talking about. I’m not sure what your point is here, but I agree it’s averages we are talking about. This doesn’t contradict my point at all. My position is that a significant part of the black/white achievement gap is the result of genetics, but not necessarily all of it. Thus, if black achievement improves in the Third World, it does not contradict my position unless black achievement comes very close to or equals that of whites. (Or surpasses it.) > [@](#): > > The question becomes whether a lower average IQ would prevent a country from becoming prosperous. That’s a different question. I would guess it probably does, or at least is a big hurdle. It certainly explains the problems in Africa, Haiti, and Detroit. > [@](#): > > If you want a serious discussion on why some parts of the developing world are genuinely developing and why much of africa is stagnating, I would enjoy that. Or why some ethnic minorities – black, hispanic and south asian often underperform; great topic of discussion too. I kinda doubt it based on the history of incivility in threads like this from people on your side of the debate. ETA: But I am happy to debate any of this with you. > [@](#): > > But the pure genetic explanation is just based on emotion and has been shown to be flawed in a number of ways. I’m not sure what you mean by “pure genetic explanation.” I certainly do not maintain that the black/white achievement gap is purely a result of genetics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=172) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=174)