# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/381 "2012-06-01T17:26:40Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > **NDD** , we’ll keep responding with jokes and insults as long as you continue to be a joke and an insult to the human race. I’m more generous; I give him 30 percent serious and 70 percent mockery. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/382 "2012-06-01T17:36:08Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Don’t we all? But hey, at least we can all agree it’s the same color no matter who you are. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/383 "2012-06-01T17:40:02Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Pff. Now that’s science! Specifically, the sort of Science! found in 1950s B-movies, in which being a Scientist! meant that you could fix up a crashed flying saucer so it worked while simultaneously translating the records of its crashing in a hitherto-unknown ancient language and mixing up a cure for the tropical disease that is ravaging your expedition. Well, the Scientist! could do all that as long as the Designated Love Interest of his Handsome Young Assistant didn’t get too close. Girl Cooties kill brain cells, doncha know. > [@cmyk](#): > > M&Ms have different flavors according to their color. > > They also instill you with special powers. If you eat the yellow ones, you gain exceptional ability in performing differential calculus. Unless you’re Green Lantern, in which case they’ll make your ring lose its powers. (I think that 70-30 ratio I mentioned earlier is slipping toward 90-10. Prolonged exposure to Teh Stoopid does that eventually…) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/384 "2012-06-01T17:43:21Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > But hey, at least we can all agree it’s the same color no matter who you are. Yes, but a white man’s blood is obviously smart because it oxygenates the brain, while everybody knows a black man’s blood is lazy and needs to be forcefully pumped to go anywhere. Just common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/385 "2012-06-01T17:45:24Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Isn’t there any way we can all gang up together and make NDD change his name? It’s almost the most idiotic and irritating thing about him. > > Wait, maybe it’s irony! > > NDD, is it irony? Well, he does seem to have finally noticed that using “Democrat” in phrases where the correct word is “Democratic” (e.g. “the Democrat Party”) was undercutting the persona. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Franklin Roosevelt owed his landslide victories to the Solid South. Because most blacks were denied equal rights by Jim Crow legislation white blue collar workers could vote **Democrat** without fearing that they were voting for equality with blacks. That’ll teach me to reply to one message without reading the rest of the thread. [EMILY LATELLA] Never mind… [/EMILY LATELLA] ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/386 "2012-06-01T17:51:02Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Yes, but a white man’s blood is obviously smart because it oxygenates the brain, while everybody knows a black man’s blood is lazy and needs to be forcefully pumped to go anywhere. Just common sense. Totally goes without saying. Just look at the crime rates. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/387 "2012-06-01T17:54:20Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > …That’ll teach me to reply to one message without reading the rest of the thread. > > [EMILY LATELLA] Never mind… [/EMILY LATELLA] A mulatto, an albino, a mosquito, my libido. [KURT COBAIN] Oh well, whatever, Nevermind… [/KURT COBAIN] ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/388 "2012-06-01T18:00:15Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, it’s only meaningless if your own use of the word “superior” is meaningless. > > Let me ask you this: > > In your view, is there any difference between asserting that “Person X is more intelligent than Person Y” and asserting that “Person X is superior to Person Y”? Nah, playtime is over. If you want to continue wandering the Labyrinth of Gotcha-Ya, you can do it alone. > [@brazil84](#): > > Sorry, but I’m not going to make an exception to my rules for you. If you insist on strawmanning me, then I’m putting you on ignore. Drown me! Hang me! Do whatever you please… only please, Br’er **brazil84** , _please_ don’t throw me into your ignore patch! ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/389 "2012-06-01T18:00:20Z")
So, to sum up: It’s not black people’s fault they’re not as intelligent as whites, they’re simply _born_ that way. Unlike the homosexual, where it’s a lifestyle choice. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/390 "2012-06-01T18:01:13Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > I am talking in terms of averages. There are black doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, and professors. These demonstrate that talented blacks can rise. This was not always the case. Are you saying we should remove those laws that allowed for that talent to rise? Or do you think that all of this would have happened without things like affirmative action? > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Instead, the result of the civil rights legislation and the war on poverty was five years of black ghetto rioting, more durable increases in black social pathology, and what seems to be a widening gap in academic performance. I think you might be looking at too narrow a data set. The academic achievement in the black community over time has been improving and tends to correlate with the unemployment and incarceration rates (mostly from the war on drugs) in the black community more consistently than it correlates with the passage of civil rights legislation. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The revulsion against the Holocaust made it fashionable to deny and ignore truths that had always been obvious. It is worth mentioning that the Holocaust was directed against the most superior racial group in the world. I think genetics has its place and I look forward to eradicating genetic propensities for cancer, heart disease, etc. but you seem to be inching towards a eugenics model based on differences that are largely differences in culture rather than genes. In your opinion, would it be advisable to limit the reproductive rights of inferior races generally or would you impose some sort of IQ test (or some other qualifying criteria) for reproduction? That is only a few step (admittedly a few large steps) removed from sterilization and genocide. Its what lies at the bottom of the eugenics slippery slope. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > By nearly every criteria I can think of black culture has declined since the civil rights legislation was passed. Soul music was a phenomena of the 1960s and early 1970s, but compare it with rap music. I think soul music has much more redeeming value than rap (which I distinguish from hip hop). How has the black genetic composition deteriorated in that time period? > [@](#): > > I do not see how whites can be blamed for the increase in black social pathology since the civil rights legislation was passed. Are you under the impression that the black genetic makeup has devolved since the civil rights movement? Isn’t it possible that the deterioration of the black commmunity is the result of something other than genetics, or did devolution occur in two generations? It seems to me that you are attributing social/environmentl/cultural problems to genetics. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > It demonstrates that the civil right legislation has opened opportunities for blacks who have the personal merit to take advantage of them. But you think we should close those opportunities now? Or do you thinki that we’ve pretty much picked out all the winners already so there’s really no reason to hold the door open anymore? > [@Fuji](#): > > That Jews comprise this “superior” group. (No offense intended to Jews, of course.) Well, white guys console themselves with the knowledge that Jews (like “orientals”) have small penii 🆒 > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Blacks are stupid because some nerdy white guy doesn’t like rap music? The rap music doesn’t make them stupid, it makes them somewhat self destructive. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Blacks do not have “equally good social conditions,” but that can be attributed to the culture they create for themselves. They do have equal rights. It is interesting that in his second statement Russell is leaving open the possibility that “Negroes are congenitally less intelligent than white people.” He is receptive to evidence. Many liberals are not and have made a dogma of congenital racial equality. Do you think they created this toxic culture in a vacuum? > [@al27052](#): > > I vote banning New Deal Democrat…Just a thought. Free speech\>correct speech > [@Sailboat](#): > > I haven’t reviewed your posting record, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. Taking it at face value, it looks like you’re arguing for the existence of racial groupings. > > [I’ll let an expert explain why that’s wrong](http://www.learntoquestion.com/resources/database/archives/001377.html). If there is a high incidence of left handedness among people with freckles and people with freckles tended to mate with other people with freckles and we noted that over time this correlation between left handedness and being freckled persisted, couldn’t we at least hypothesize that left handedness was heritable and that this heritable trait existed more frequently in people with freckles generally? To take another example, all dogs can interbreed but if you tell me the breed, I can probably give you a pretty good guess not only about its size and strength but also its intelligence (or trainability or some other non-physical trait). If we are ready to admit that different breeds of dogs have different average intelligence levels then why can’t we admit different levels of intelligence in different human breeds. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Charles Murray, whom I do agree with, has a vast following. Yeah, so does Grover Norquist. A lot of people like what he has to say and he has some factoids that support his views but mostly you believe Grover because you want to believe Grover Norquist. > [@Gyrate](#): > > So you can’t really say anything about “black people” as a whole based on genetics, because they aren’t all remotely alike genetically. I’m not saying that the gene for skin color is the same gene that determines intelligence but if intelligence is to some extent heritable (and I think most experts believe that it is) and if every study we see notes that there is an IQ gap between blacks and whites (however they are defined) and some of this gap might be attributable to differences in heritable traits. THEN in the context of social programs that are geared to close the socioeconomic gap between blacks and whites, isn’t it relevant that there is not merely a socioeconomic gap but also a difference in heritable traits? I don’t think we are anywhere near overcoming the non-heritable reasons for the socioeconomic gaps but I think we can all agree that we can’t try to reach relative parity in results if there is not relative parity in ability. I don’t think anyone is saying that skin color is the cause of the IQ gap but if part of the IQ gap is the result of genetics, then it does mean that we can’t expect to achieve parity in results. > [@Kobal2](#): > > A specific pinpointing of the genes responsible for “intelligence”, “crime” and “sexual irresponsibility” would help. That’s just off the top of my head. Get cracking. \*\*Smeghead \*\*already provided you with a methodological walk-through in the other thread which should get you started on sound, actually scientific bases. “Crime” and “sexual irresponsibility” probably has a lot to do with impulse control which I thought could be the result of genetics. I thought it was pretty well accepted in the psychological community that intelligence is at least partly heritable. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Indeed; you only have to look across to poor whites to see similar poor results in scholastic achievement and crime statistics. In the US black people account for a disproportionate amount of the poor, but it’s the fact that they’re poor and poorly educated that more strongly correlates with the problems mentioned than their race. These studies are usiully corrected for socioeconomic status so its more than just poverty or poor education. > [@](#): > > Middle-class black families don’t suffer from these problems to the same degree (although they’re hardly free from discrimination), and strangely enough their kids tend not to grow up to be uneducated crackheads. They also don’t perform as well as middle class white kids. > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Where is there evidence that black stupidity, crime, and sexual irresponsibility are not genetic? Don’t you think the burden of proof should be on you? Sure you have some supporting evidence that SOME of this might be the result fo gentics but there is equally convincing evidence that these things can be completely accounted for by non-genetic factors. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the global IQ statistics. Its very hard to believe that the average subsaharan African is moderately mentally retarded. Still its hard to explain away the differences we see between places like Africa and India. Both were colonized, India used to be at least as poor and undeveloped as Africa. Asian immigrants tend to outperform African imigrants almost everywhere they go. We can’t blame rap music for the differences everywhere in the world and at some point excuses start to wear thin. I don’t know what the answer is but I feel that we have not reached the socioeconmic balance we would have if we didn’t have 400 years of slavery and segregation. My question is why we have affirmative action for hispanics. In what way have we treated Peurto Ricans any worse than Jews or Asians? > [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Whites are more skilled in war, but I do not believe that war has been more prevalent in Europe than in Africa. Currently war is endemic in parts of sub Saharan Africa. It is often combined with mass rape and even cannibalism. Are you under the impression that given similar training, white American generals are better strategists than a black ones, in general? I’m pretty sure that having guns was a factor in why white Europeans could defeat Africans despite being grossly outnumbered. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/391 "2012-06-01T18:05:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Nah, playtime is over. i.e. you’ve been caught in your strawmanning game. > [@](#): > > Drown me! Hang me! Do whatever you please… only please, Br’er **brazil84** , _please_ don’t throw me into your ignore patch! Lol, request granted. Goodbye, liar. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/392 "2012-06-01T18:08:21Z")
Cafeteria line in Chicago, the fat man in front of me Is calling black people trash to his children And he’s the only trash here I see And I am thinking this man wears a white hood In the night when his children should sleep But they’ll slip to their windows and they’ll see him And they’ll think that white hood’s all they need ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/393 "2012-06-01T18:26:19Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, request granted. > > Goodbye, liar. No, wait! You forgot your hood. Damn. I miss him already. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/394 "2012-06-01T18:29:10Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > No, wait! You forgot your hood. > > Damn. I miss him already. You know why the hoods are pointy at the top, don’t you? [That’s why.](http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/1356593-zippy_large.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/395 "2012-06-01T18:31:35Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Damn. I miss him already. The assclown does you a favor and somehow thinks he’s scored some kind of rhetorical point. Is there a full moon or something? Between **NDD** , **brazzie** , and the others, it’s like a full-on head trauma survivors convention lately. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/396 "2012-06-01T18:32:02Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Jack Batty > > Blacks are stupid because some nerdy white guy doesn’t like rap music? > > The rap music doesn’t make them stupid, it makes them somewhat self destructive. Thank God the white race was saved by punk-rock having never been invented. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/397 "2012-06-01T18:33:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > No, wait! You forgot your hood. > > Damn. I miss him already. Welcome to the club. Wanna talk shit about him behind his back with the rest of us now? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/398 "2012-06-01T18:35:00Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Welcome to the club. Wanna talk shit about him behind his back with the rest of us now? That seems unfair and unsportsmanlike at this point, so _yes_. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/399 "2012-06-01T18:36:43Z")
Ah yes, I’d forgotten all about Brazzy and his “rules” and his threats to “ban” people. Poor sad, sexually frustrated little child. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/400 "2012-06-01T18:41:37Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Honestly Ekers, I’m surprised at you. You’re almost certainly wrong. > Chances are he’s a sexually frustrated, single bigot. I hope so. Because if stupidity is hereditary we certainly don’t want him breeding and passing it on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=21)