# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/821 "2012-06-05T23:57:25Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> ]. . .

I do not engage with this poster due to his past strawmanning. If anyone (who is not on my ignore list) wishes, I am happy to provide a cite for the apparent dishonesty of **The Tao’s Revenge**

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/822 "2012-06-06T00:05:45Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> Saying that does not make it true. Your only argument is that in a perfect society, which presumably is one controlled by those you like and agree with, racial differences will disappear, and the long deferred hopes that inspired the civil rights movement in the United States and the independence movements in Africa will finally be realized. You have no reason to expect them to be realized, only blind hope and the will to believe.

Lol, as it is said:

The Revolution has not failed. The Revolution has been betrayed. Only complete conquest by the Revolution will reveal the benefits of the Revolution.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/823 "2012-06-06T00:12:18Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> It may surprise you, but I do not deny that (1) global surface temperatures have increased over the last 50 years; (2) mankind’s CO2 emissions have likely contributed to this increase; or (3) mankind’s CO2 emissions are likely to cause further warming in the future.
> 
> Since you appreciate the reality of racial differences in intelligence, I am optimistic that you will appreciate the key issue in the global warming debate, which is known as “water vapor feedback.”
> 
> See, global warming advocates assert that warming due to CO2 will be “amplified,” i.e. that CO2 emissions will cause warming; which will cause water vapor levels to rise; which will cause more warming; and so on until there are serious negative consequences.
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> There is less evidence for this hypothesis than there is support for the claim that the intelligence gap between blacks and whites is the result of racial discrimination.

Unfortunately, by the time it becomes obvious that the consumption of fossil fuels is causing global warming the damage will be considerable, and irreversible. Even then many will deny global warming. How can you reason with someone who believes that the earth is less than 10,000 years old and that Jesus will come again soon anyway, so the climate 100 years ago does not matter because time will have stopped by then.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/824 "2012-06-06T00:15:08Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Sure, if you feel admiration for their cultural values. But that nothing to do with genetic predisposition. I take pride in many Jewish cultural values. That’s a long way off from saying we’re genetically superior.

Stop being modest. You know full well that the Ashkenazim are the most superior racial group in the world.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/825 "2012-06-06T00:23:00Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> It may surprise you, but I do not deny that (1) global surface temperatures have increased over the last 50 years; (2) mankind’s CO2 emissions have likely contributed to this increase; or (3) mankind’s CO2 emissions are likely to cause further warming in the future.
> 
> Since you appreciate the reality of racial differences in intelligence, I am optimistic that you will appreciate the key issue in the global warming debate, which is known as “water vapor feedback.”
> 
> See, global warming advocates assert that warming due to CO2 will be “amplified,” i.e. that CO2 emissions will cause warming; which will cause water vapor levels to rise; which will cause more warming; and so on until there are serious negative consequences.
> 
> There is less evidence for this hypothesis than there is support for the claim that the intelligence gap between blacks and whites is the result of racial discrimination.

And of course that is a load of crap, the brazil nut never bothered to see what the evidence is:

> **[Explaining how the water vapor greenhouse effect works](https://skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm)**
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> \<p\>Water vapour is the most dominant greenhouse gas. Water vapour is also the dominant positive feedback in our climate system and amplifies any warming caused by changes in atmospheric CO2. This positive feedback is why climate is so sensitive to...

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> How much does water vapor amplify CO2 warming? Studies show that water vapor feedback roughly doubles the amount of warming caused by CO2. So if there is a 1°C change caused by CO2, the water vapor will cause the temperature to go up another 1°C. When other feedback loops are included, the total warming from a potential 1°C change caused by CO2 is, in reality, as much as 3°C.

> **[How sensitive is our climate?](https://skepticalscience.com/climate-sensitivity-advanced.htm)**
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> \<p\>Climate sensitivity can be calculated empirically by comparing past temperature change to natural forcings at the time. Various periods of Earth's past have been examined in this manner and find broad agreement of a climate sensitivity of around...

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> Some global warming ‘skeptics’ argue that the Earth’s climate sensitivity is so low that a doubling of atmospheric CO2 will result in a surface temperature change on the order of 1°C or less, and that therefore global warming is nothing to worry about. However, values this low are inconsistent with numerous studies using a wide variety of methods, including (i) paleoclimate data, (ii) recent empirical data, and (iii) generally accepted climate models.

Hence the reason why everyone but the brasil nut can see that he is in reality a clam debater.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/826 "2012-06-06T00:24:21Z")

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I honestly thought **NDD** was simply dumb. Really fucking idiotically dumb but not malicious.

I’m giving up on that now. I’m calling troll and/or malicious dumbass. Nobody with 2 brain cells to rub together could seriously write the following:

> [@Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/race-differences-in-average-iq-are-largely-genetic/623236/420):
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> The whitest states have the highest average IQs. With a combined population of Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans of 29.7 percent, and a white population of 38.8 percent, and average IQ is 99 for Hawaii is respectable.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/827 "2012-06-06T00:27:18Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> Stop being modest. You know full well that the Ashkenazim are the most superior racial group in the world.

You have no idea how that attitude (racial superiority of any group) turns my stomach.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/828 "2012-06-06T00:30:43Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> You have no idea how that attitude (racial superiority of any group) turns my stomach.

In other words you respond emotionally to what you cannot disprove intellectually. Take pride in the fact that one out of five Nobel Prizes has been won by a Jew.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/829 "2012-06-06T00:32:16Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Lol, as it is said:
> 
> The Revolution has not failed. The Revolution has been betrayed. Only complete conquest by the Revolution will reveal the benefits of the Revolution.

And of course no one here is saying that, but I can see straw-manning can be used with impunity by the one that would ban others just because he believes others are using dishonest debating tactics, in reality he is a perfect example of projection.

> **[Psychological projection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection)**
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> Psychological projection is a defence mechanism of alterity concerning "inside" content mistaken to be coming from the "outside" Other. It forms the basis of empathy by the projection of personal experiences to understand someone else's subjective world. In its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and A pro...

Meh, it is really good that he is ignoring me, he always forget that that I mostly post for others that would wonder if there is something valid in the trash these people spew.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/830 "2012-06-06T00:35:57Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> In other words you respond emotionally to what you cannot disprove intellectually. Take pride in the fact that one out of five Nobel Prizes has been won by a Jew.

Nonsense. I have given you intellectual arguments that you summarily ignored. The presence of an emotional reaction does not eliminate the intellectual component to my position.

In other words, my brain happily explains why you’re wrong. My gut turns turns at the implication and real consequences of ideas about racial superiority.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/831 "2012-06-06T00:36:07Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> The fact that blacks everywhere, and always throughout history have been characterized by inferior intelligence and criminal proclivities is sufficient evidence of genetic differences. If the negro race was biologically equivalent to the white race there would be less variability between the races.

And I thought NephilimFree was a moron. Yeesh. Please actually read up on genetic differences between phenotypes and socio-environmental factors before talking about stuff like this; might make you seem like less of an idiot.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/832 "2012-06-06T00:38:00Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> In other words you respond emotionally to what you cannot disprove intellectually. Take pride in the fact that one out of five Nobel Prizes has been won by a Jew.

I could see NDD as emperor Palpatine asking the young Jedi to join him, sorry, there can only be 2 and the brazil nut already has dibs. 😃

Sad that NDD is reduced to attempt conversions in the pit out of all places, so how is the progress with the conversion to the dark side with active evolutionary professors? Hard going over there huh?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/833 "2012-06-06T00:39:32Z")

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Actually now that I think about it, I think I’ll embrace my genetic superiority. NDD would be a moron to disregard opinions from such a member of such a vaulted race as my own.  
😃

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/834 "2012-06-06T00:45:11Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Actually now that I think about it, I think I’ll embrace my genetic superiority. NDD would be a moron to disregard opinions from such a member of such a vaulted race as my own.  
> 😃

Well, I expect NDD to demonstrate once again how strong is his moronic side. 😃

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/835 "2012-06-06T00:47:06Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Nonsense. I have given you intellectual arguments that you summarily ignored. The presence of an emotional reaction does not eliminate the intellectual component to my position.
> 
> In other words, my brain happily explains why you’re wrong. My gut turns turns at the implication and real consequences of ideas about racial superiority.

How am I wrong. Why are racial differences in intelligence so durable in different environments?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/836 "2012-06-06T01:01:29Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> How am I wrong. Why are racial differences in intelligence so durable in different environments?

Again? And again? And again?

No, I’m too smart (snerk) to teach the unteachable.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/837 "2012-06-06T01:05:38Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Well, I expect NDD to demonstrate once again how strong is his moronic side. 😃

“Once you give in to the Moron Side, forever will it dominate your destiny.” [/Yoda]

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/838 "2012-06-06T01:33:17Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Again? And again? And again?
> 
> No, I’m too smart (snerk) to teach the unteachable.

I asked a simple question, and you are dodging it. Within a generation of immigrating to the United States so many Jewish children of impoverished immigrants qualified for entry to Ivy League colleges that quotas were set up to restrict entry. These were kids that grew up in places like Hell’s Kitchen. They were harassed by anti Semitic hoodlums. How were they able to do so well?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/839 "2012-06-06T01:37:11Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> I asked a simple question, and you are dodging it. Within a generation of immigrating to the United States so many Jewish children of impoverished immigrants qualified for entry to Ivy League colleges that quotas were set up to restrict entry. These were kids that grew up in places like Hell’s Kitchen. They were harassed by anti Semitic hoodlums. How were they able to do so well?

I dodge nothing. I have explained multiple times that cultural influences are more important than any assumed genetic issues. And quotas weren’t there to prevent too many Jews from entering and taking over- it was due to plain old bigotry.

IT’S NOT GENETIC SUPERIORITY. I refuse to say this again.

ETA: there were quotas on blacks as well (generally a total prohibition). They must have been even more afraid that the blacks would take over, being so superior.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/840 "2012-06-06T01:57:45Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> IT’S NOT GENETIC SUPERIORITY. I refuse to say this again.

Good. Don’t. You do not strengthen a bad argument by shouting it.

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The Nobel Foundation of Sweden awards the Nobel Prizes to men and women who have rendered the greatest service to humankind. Of the 750 Nobel Prizes awarded worldwide between 1901 and 2007, at least 162 were awarded to Jews. While Jews are approximately 0.25% of the world’s population, Jews make up approximately 22% of all Nobel Prize laureates worldwide…

[http://judaism.about.com/od/culture/a/nobel.htm](http://judaism.about.com/od/culture/a/nobel.htm)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IBIvPkdIOT8?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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