# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1181 "2012-06-09T19:19:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The first part of this statement is partially right- detailed DNA analysis can generally show what populations your ancestry comes from- like ~30% Yoruba, ~20% Han Chinese, and ~50% French, for example. But populations do not always correspond to the popular conception of “race”. > > The second part of your statement is false. I can’t believe you’re still saying this crap- the Yoruba and the San, for example, are farther apart then the Yoruba and the French, or the Yoruba and the Han Chinese. The Yoruba have a more recent common ancestor, population-wise, with the French and Chinese (they show the exact same distance from both, so it’s probably the exact same common ancestor they have with both) then they do with the San. > > So if you think the Yoruba and the San (or all “black” Africans) have a common ancestor that is more recent than any “black” African populations have with Eurasians, you are absolutely 100% false. The main races are Caucasian, Negro, and Mongoloid. Additional races exist. Most Mongoloids are Oriental. The distinction is useful, because the Orientals have higher average IQs. They have build more advanced civilizations. They continue to be more advanced. Until the Bantu expansion the Bushmen occupied most of Africa. They were paleolithic, and remained so into the twentieth century. When the Bantu acquired the use of iron weapons about 3,500 years ago the Bushmen, who were still in the stone age, could not compete with the Bantu, so the Bantu occupied most of Africa. It may be that the Negroes are more closely related to the Caucasians and Orientals than they are to the Bushmen, but I have only seen one chart that claims that. I will need further confirmation before I make up my mind on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1182 "2012-06-09T19:21:15Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > There are three quite different definitions there, but I’m not surprised you didn’t notice. > > At any rate, by any of those definitions the “black” and “Oriental” races don’t exist. The three definitions are equivalent. Each can distinguish Negroes from Orientals. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1183 "2012-06-09T19:30:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > . . . This poster is on my ignore list because of his dishonesty. If anyone who is not on my ignore list wants, I am happy to provide links and quotes. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1184 "2012-06-09T19:33:08Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The main races are Caucasian, Negro, and Mongoloid. What race are Nubians? Malagasy? Andaman Islanders? Tuareg? Each of these ethnic groups has been (generally) distinct (from their neighbors) and coherent for thousands of years. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1185 "2012-06-09T19:34:21Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Earlier I provided my own definition of race. And until you can convince most biology professors at universities to follow your peculiar definitions what you have there are just the ideas of a nowhere man. https://www.youtube.com/embed/6wn_BTkoZo0?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque Yep, making his nowhere plans for nobody. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1186 "2012-06-09T19:34:40Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > This poster is on my ignore list because of his dishonesty. If anyone who is not on my ignore list wants, I am happy to provide links and quotes. I’m interested in the (fabricated) dishonesty you accuse me of. Of course, he’s “ignoring me”… so I hope someone else asks. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1187 "2012-06-09T19:36:25Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > This poster is on my ignore list because of his dishonesty. If anyone who is not on my ignore list wants, I am happy to provide links and quotes. I would rather confront the misconceptions and fallacies of my detractors than ignore them. Their intemperate insults demonstrate that they are incapable of responding to my logical and fact based arguments in a way that a competent debate judge would value. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1188 "2012-06-09T19:40:14Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > And until you can convince most biology professors at universities to follow your peculiar definitions what you have there are just the ideas of a nowhere man. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wn\_BTkoZo0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wn_BTkoZo0) > > Yep, making his nowhere plans for nobody. If race is only a social construct, why do those who are wrongfully believed to be a race that does not exist deserve preferential hiring and university admissions? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1189 "2012-06-09T19:40:57Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Their intemperate insults demonstrate that they are incapable of responding to my logical and fact based arguments in a way that a competent debate judge would value. This is a laugh. You’ve abandoned the ridiculous Lynn because we’ve shown what shoddy science his book was. You’ve never offered ANY genetic evidence- and I’ve shown you exactly what I mean by that. You’ve shown nothing but education and crime statistics- and education and crime statistics do not and _cannot_ tell you anything about genetics. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1190 "2012-06-09T19:42:42Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > If race is only a social construct, why do those who are wrongfully believed to be a race that does not exist deserve preferential hiring and university admissions? 😕 The clue is in the term: **it is a social construct** , until guys like you are no longer here university admissions will have to consider AA. So, any active biology professors supporting your social solutions that we can get from your imaginary biological definitions? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1191 "2012-06-09T19:56:43Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I do not engage with this poster because of his refusal to answer reasonable questions about his position. > > I am not interest in having discussions with people who hide their positions behind a cloak of ambiguity. Thought you put me on ignore, you big fat liar! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1192 "2012-06-09T20:01:04Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The three definitions are equivalent. Each can distinguish Negroes from Orientals. No. This is just stupid and ignorant. But we knew that already. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1193 "2012-06-09T20:07:22Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > If race is only a social construct, why do those who are wrongfully believed to be a race that does not exist deserve preferential hiring and university admissions? 😕 Because race exists. It’s a social construct, which is a real thing. You yourself are a perfect example; you keep referring to “blacks” as a unified race, when genetically they obviously are not. To an American in 2012, “blacks” are a meaningful racial group, sociologically speaking. Genetically, it’s meaningless, not much different from referring to the race of “people with brown eyes.” ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1194 "2012-06-09T20:11:37Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The main races are Caucasian, Negro, and Mongoloid. Wrong. The three main races are Redheads, People Named “Alphonse,” and everyone else, a race which I characterize “Therestians.” There are examples of Redheads who also display Alphonsian characteristics due to miscegenation, but thankfully these cases are rare. I invite anyone to challenge my research, which is based on sound science and comprises forty-four filing cabinets filled with statistical studies and scholarly works stored in my pants. While not as vast and impressive as the library of original research on race studies that **New Deal Democrat** has assembled in his rectum, it’s certainly nothing to sneeze at. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1195 "2012-06-09T21:05:13Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > It’s Ironic that **New Deal Democrat** is a **MAN** (I presume a white male) complaining about black crime rates when violent crime correlates much better with MALENESS than with an artificial designation like race. > > Especially since there is actually a biological explanation for the aggression (brains of men and women are different and we have different chemical balances…I have never even heard scientific racists claim this to be true about racists)…he has absolutely no explanation or evidence of his racist theories other than “it’s in the genes” (he can’t even begin to name one gene and has had it explained to him that “blacks” have less in common with each other genetically than anyone outside of Africa, so his idiotic racial theories don’t even make sense on the face of it). > > So why are you so obsessed with skin color instead of males? MALES are the ones ruining the neighborhoods with gangs and crimes like you complain about blacks. I think it’s interesting our two foremost resident scientific racists never acknowleged my comment both being men themselves? ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1196 "2012-06-09T21:10:40Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The three definitions are equivalent. Each can distinguish Negroes from Orientals. What race would you say this person is? [http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/117126904\_c805455822.jpg](http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/117126904_c805455822.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1197 "2012-06-09T21:43:44Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Wrong. The three main races are Redheads, People Named “Alphonse,” and everyone else, a race which I characterize “Therestians.” There are examples of Redheads who also display Alphonsian characteristics due to miscegenation, but thankfully these cases are rare. > > I invite anyone to challenge my research, which is based on sound science and comprises forty-four filing cabinets filled with statistical studies and scholarly works stored in my pants. While not as vast and impressive as the library of original research on race studies that **New Deal Democrat** has assembled in his rectum, it’s certainly nothing to sneeze at. Have I told you lately that you’re my favorite poster? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1198 "2012-06-09T21:52:32Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > What race would you say this person is? > > [http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/117126904\_c805455822.jpg](http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/117126904_c805455822.jpg) People Named “Alphonse”? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1199 "2012-06-09T22:34:11Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > A statement like needs to be documented with a few comments by brazil84 that you consider to be lies. Statements you disagree with but cannot disprove do not qualify. Nor do legitimate mistakes by brazil84. > > Actually The Tao’s Revenge, it is your statement that seems glib and devoid of content. So his anti Anthropomorphic Global Warming is an honestly held position to you? Okay, nice to know you feel **Brazil84** , your lone alley in the thread is a retard, I guess. He makes slanderous, false, accusations against me like that, and doesn’t back them up. Why should I treat the science denying, lying, brazil nut any different? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1200 "2012-06-09T22:55:11Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > I think it’s interesting our two foremost resident scientific racists never acknowleged my comment both being men themselves? I’m not sure if this comment is addressed to me, but I totally concede that there are inherent psychological differences between human males and human females. And that human males are significantly more prone to violent crime than human females. And my position on policy is essentially the same: The government should not make policies based on the false assumption that the sexes are inherently the same psychologically and that therefore any performance gaps are due to discrimination. Ditto for policies based on the false assumption that any racial disparities must be the result of discrimination. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=61)