# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1221 "2012-06-10T21:03:02Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > Nice. This confirms my assumptions that American society and culture, both black and white, keeps blacks down. Lol at excuse number 341 for black underperformance. Good thing the blacks in Haiti don’t have whitey keeping them down. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1222 "2012-06-10T21:04:52Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Here and in the [GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653191) (now up to 11 pages), I think **NDD** is adopting the classic **brazil84** strategy: Then it should be no problem for you to quote 3 “lies” I have told. Please do so. Failing that, please admit I have done no so thing and apologize. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1223 "2012-06-10T21:08:55Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > Nice. This confirms my assumptions that American society and culture, both black and white, keeps blacks down. If whites keep blacks down, why do blacks have higher standards of living in countries where the majority is white? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1224 "2012-06-10T21:19:55Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol at excuse number 341 for black underperformance. Good thing the blacks in Haiti don’t have whitey keeping them down. The per capita gross domestic product of Haiti is $1,200. This is one of the lowest in the world, and lower than for any country in Latin America. Nearly all of the countries with lower standards of living than Haiti are Negro countries. Haiti shares an island with the Dominican Republic. The black population there is much lower. The per capita gross domestic product in the Dominican Republic is $9,300. I have read that one flying over that island can easily tell the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Haiti is red from deforested soil. The Dominican Republic is lush and green. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1225 "2012-06-10T21:26:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Here and in the [GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653191) (now up to 11 pages), I think **NDD** is adopting the classic **brazil84** strategy: [Gish-Gallop](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_gallop) and [PRATT](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PRATT) over and over and over again until everybody else gets sick of posting, then get the last post in and declare victory. “A point refuted a thousand times, commonly abbreviated as PRATT, is a common phrase on internet forums where debates have a tendency to go in circles. Once people have refuted a point the first thousand times, it’s hard for them to muster the motivation to do it again.” No one has ever refuted my argument that racial differences exist of a significant extent and durability to demonstrate genetic differences. Instead I get the silly cliche that “race is only a social construct,” and the assertion that at some undisclosed time in the future the various under performing non races will perform and behave as well as the non races of whites and Orientals do now. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1226 "2012-06-10T21:28:00Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The per capita gross domestic product of Haiti is $1,200. This is one of the lowest in the world, and lower than for any country in Latin America. Nearly all of the countries with lower standards of living than Haiti are Negro countries. > > Haiti shares an island with the Dominican Republic. The black population there is much lower. The per capita gross domestic product in the Dominican Republic is $9,300. > > I have read that one flying over that island can easily tell the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Haiti is red from deforested soil. The Dominican Republic is lush and green. Well the other thing about Haiti is that the blacks there chased out and slaughtered all of the whites more than 200 years ago. Making it difficult to blame their current problems on whites. Although I’m confident that the Liberal Excuse Machine will come up with something. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1227 "2012-06-10T21:29:22Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > The per capita gross domestic product of Haiti is $1,200. This is one of the lowest in the world, and lower than for any country in Latin America. Nearly all of the countries with lower standards of living than Haiti are Negro countries. > > Haiti shares an island with the Dominican Republic. The black population there is much lower. The per capita gross domestic product in the Dominican Republic is $9,300. > > I have read that one flying over that island can easily tell the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Haiti is red from deforested soil. The Dominican Republic is lush and green. Congratulations on knowing absolutely nothing about the completely different histories of the two countries. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1228 "2012-06-10T21:32:58Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Then it should be no problem for you to quote 3 “lies” I have told. > > Please do so. Failing that, please admit I have done no so thing and apologize. To me just the fact that what the experts report on the loss of ice in the poles does not match what brazil claims should be enough to show who is really the liar, as it was the denial that there is plenty of evidence for the water vapor feedback with CO2. That NDD is still trying to depend on the brazil nut is even more sad, but what it is clear to me now is that instead of dealing with what \*\*Colibri \*\*reported NDD just shows that he is a coward in the end by replying to a post from yesterday, since he is incapable of dealing with the expert there is noting much left to say. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1229 "2012-06-10T21:35:06Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > No one has ever refuted my argument that racial differences exist of a significant extent and durability to demonstrate genetic differences. We’ve refuted your definition of race, multiple times. And you’ve demonstrated zero genetic differences. A persistently lower murder rate for the Amish is not evidence of Amish genetics providing less tendency towards murder. Education, economic, and crime statistics say nothing about genetics, and never can. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1230 "2012-06-10T21:36:07Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Ok, please provide links and quotes. > > Thanks. Note that **brazil84** has “elected” to avoid substantiating his ridiculous claim that I lied or contradicted myself. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1231 "2012-06-10T21:38:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > . . . I don’t read or respond to this individual’s posts due to his past refusal to answer a simple, reasonable question about his position. I simply have no interest in engaging with someone who insists on hiding his position behind a cloak of ambiguity. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1232 "2012-06-10T21:39:47Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > . . . This poster is on my ignore list due to his refusal to answer simple questions about his position. I am happy to provide links and quotes to anyone who is not on my ignore list. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1233 "2012-06-10T21:42:58Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > This poster is on my ignore list due to his refusal to answer simple questions about his position. I am happy to provide links and quotes to anyone who is not on my ignore list. He’s on your ignore list, yet you read his post. In addition to not understanding the word “contradiction”, I don’t think you understand the word “ignore”. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1234 "2012-06-10T21:43:40Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > We’ve refuted your definition of race, multiple times. And you’ve demonstrated zero genetic differences. A persistently lower murder rate for the Amish is not evidence of Amish genetics providing less tendency towards murder. Education, economic, and crime statistics say nothing about genetics, and never can. No you have not. Repeating an untruth does not turn it into a truth. Races differ by appearance, by evolutionary history and pre history, by skeleton characteristics, by DNA, and by average ability levels and behavior. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1235 "2012-06-10T21:45:57Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > That NDD is still trying to depend on the brazil nut is even more sad, but what it is clear to me now is that instead of dealing with what \*\*Colibri \*\*reported NDD just shows that he is a coward in the end by replying to a post from yesterday, since he is incapable of dealing with the expert there is noting much left to say. Prove that blacks behave and perform as well as whites. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1236 "2012-06-10T21:49:43Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > No you have not. Repeating an untruth does not turn it into a truth. Races differ by appearance, by evolutionary history and pre history, by skeleton characteristics, by DNA, and by average ability levels and behavior. You’ve refused any question “testing” your statements about race. What race are Nubians? What race are Andaman Islanders? What race are Malagasy? What race are Ainu? What race are the Naga of Sri Lanka? You’ve essentially made a hypothesis that could be evaluated scientifically- your hypothesis is “genetic differences between populations account for most or all of the ‘achievement gap’ between ‘blacks’ and ‘whites’”. A good scientist would ask how to test this hypothesis. All you have done is restate it in various ways. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1237 "2012-06-10T21:50:00Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > Prove that blacks behave and perform as well as whites. That’s not what you said originally. You stated that any achievement gap was “largely” due to genetics. Now, you’re changing your story? An achievement gap exists in the US (though not everywhere in the world). What you have NOT done is shown that such a gap is due to genetics and not other social or economic factors. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1238 "2012-06-10T21:50:30Z")
> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#): > > No you have not. Repeating an untruth does not turn it into a truth. Races differ by appearance, by evolutionary history and pre history, by skeleton characteristics, by DNA, and by average ability levels and behavior. Sorry, but when an expert on the matter is not impressed with your “dizzying” intellect and you just insist on posting misleading information, it is you who is the one that has trouble with the truth. This is made worse by the fact that brazil just demonstrated what a coward he really is. So please explain to \*\*Colibri \*\*how your ideas will make headway were it counts by replying to his post or just shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1239 "2012-06-10T22:13:33Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > What you have NOT done is shown that such a gap is due to genetics and not other social or economic factors. He’s already expressed a belief that it’s been somehow proven that the gap _always_ (or at least extremely consistently) exists, no matter location and cultural/societal circumstance, and that therefore proves that it must be genetic. He’s already been told that such is not actually been proven, and that even it had been that STILL doesn’t necessarily make it genetic, but he doesn’t believe it. Thus this endless circle. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1240 "2012-06-10T22:39:53Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t read or respond to this individual’s posts due to his past refusal to answer a simple, reasonable question about his position. If you’re going to ignore someone, then ignore them. I was going to comment that repeatedly pointing out that you’re not reading someone’s posts by quoting their post is the stupidest thing you’ve done in this thread, but sadly it doesn’t even make the top ten. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489.md?page=63)