# SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489 "2012-05-29T22:59:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 95

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1881 "2012-06-17T20:26:56Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The “I know what you are but what am I” response hasn’t stopped being puerile in the last few posts.

Puerile or not, it’s true that you are the one who lacks self-awareness.

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> That’s a lie, of course. I didn’t say that.

Here’s what you said:

> [@Colibri](#):
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> And you’re misusing bluster. I haven’t threatened you

> [@Colibri](#):
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> Bluster implies a threat.

And here’s what the Oxford Online Dictionary says:

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> talk in a loud, aggressive, or indignant way with little effect:

No mention of a threat in the definition. So either you are wrong or the Oxford Online Dictionary is wrong.

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> But this of course is part of your usual strategy of seizing on some triviality

Lol, again more lack of self awareness.

You are the one who accused me of misusing the word “bluster.”

You are the one who is seizing on trivialities.

And you are the liar.

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1882 "2012-06-17T20:35:22Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The “I know what you are but what am I” response hasn’t stopped being puerile in the last few posts.
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> That’s a lie, of course. I didn’t say that.
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> But this of course is part of your usual strategy of seizing on some triviality to deflect attention from your own stupidity, ignorance, and dishonesty.
> 
> Asshole.

Why is this sort of bad-faith “argument” allowed?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1883 "2012-06-17T20:36:40Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Lol, you are the one who is unaware of your own behavior.
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> Do you realize that you – an anonymous person on the internet – are insisting without any references that the Oxford Online Dictionary is flat out wrong?

Huh, my OED doesn’t offer a definition for “postjudice.” nor does Merriam-Webster.

Who’s special pleading _nooooow?!_ :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1884 "2012-06-17T20:45:43Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> If there is any value in those websites, tell what they say in your words. If you cannot do that, you do not understand those argument yourself.

No Cliff Notes for you, sir. Do your own homework.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1885 "2012-06-17T20:48:47Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Puerile or not, it’s true that you are the one who lacks self-awareness.
> 
> Here’s what you said:
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> And here’s what the Oxford Online Dictionary says:
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> No mention of a threat in the definition. So either you are wrong or the Oxford Online Dictionary is wrong.
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> Lol, again more lack of self awareness.
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> You are the one who accused me of misusing the word “bluster.”
> 
> You are the one who is seizing on trivialities.
> 
> And you are the liar.

Bluster is commonly understood to mean to huff and puff while making empty threats you fucking dolt. It has several slightly varying definitions and you’re choosing the one definition that’ll dishonestly support your juvenile and trivial argument. You don’t think anyone older than four can see right through this? You’re more transparent and vacuous than the vacuum of space.

What fuckng planet do you live on, you impossible idiot?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1886 "2012-06-17T21:01:31Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> Why is this sort of bad-faith “argument” allowed?

At this point, I think it’s fair to conclude **b84** is trolling.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1887 "2012-06-17T21:02:32Z")

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Holy shit, “mulattoes”? You can’t be fucking serious.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1888 "2012-06-17T21:09:14Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Holy shit, “mulattoes”? You can’t be fucking serious.

It’s like a general who’s eager to fight a war that was lost 40 years ago. Lost cause v. 2.0.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1889 "2012-06-17T21:19:47Z")

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I think this entire forum is now on **b84’s** “ignore” list.

He’s like a toddler with a blanket over his head who thinks because he can’t see us, we can’t see him.

He deserves his own Pit thread just for his behavior in this thread alone.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1890 "2012-06-17T21:38:05Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> IQ does not measure moral superiority. It does measure biological superiority. If he was less intelligent Hitler would have been less successful.

> [@cmyk](#):
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> So then, IQ scores and crime rates are not related. Since crime is a moral/ethical issue. Am I reading you correctly here?

^Um, **NDD?**

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1891 "2012-06-17T21:43:49Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> If there is any value in those websites, tell what they say in your words. If you cannot do that, you do not understand those argument yourself.

Well, the TL;DR version is that this is essentially a complete deconstruction of the idea of genetic racism as a whole, complete with extensive sourcing and a massive bibliography from a bio-chemist citing peer-reviewed papers. I really can’t sum it up in my own words, because there’s simply so much there that it would take me an entire college course to really be able to present it honestly. The most salient points from the latest video essentially boil down to:  
– Biologically meaningful haplogroups are incredibly spread out among populations  
– The genetic portrait of the average “black” person is more likely to show indo-european roots than that of the average “white” person  
– “Victorian” race groupings are horribly out of date – africa alone contains hundreds upon hundreds of different “races”; black is as much a race as “mammal” is a species.  
– There are basically either around 600 different races, or one

Seriously, though, I can’t really do C0nc0rdance’s stuff justice. I really recommend watching it, though, as there probably will never be a better one-stop debunking of every single bullshit claim about race you have ever heard or bought into.

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**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1892 "2012-06-17T22:43:50Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> as there probably will never be a better one-stop debunking of every single bullshit claim about race you have ever heard or bought into.

…that is, until the Master answers a question about race, genetics, and IQ :p.

Although it’s been thoroughly debunked here, I’d still like to hear Cecil’s take on race, genetics, and IQ.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1893 "2012-06-17T22:44:52Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Puerile or not, it’s true that you are the one who lacks self-awareness.

I say this based on the assumption that no one would want to make as much a fool of themselves as you constantly do on this board. But maybe you are aware, and you just don’t care about being a laughingstock.

Of course, given that you’ve got the mental capacity of a brain-damaged opossum, rudimentary language skills, and compete absence of a sense of humor, a retort beyond “No u!” would be a stretch for you. Go ahead and carry on with the rubber/glue shtick, then.😃

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**Author:** ![Secret\_Seth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Secret\_Seth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Secret_Seth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1894 "2012-06-17T22:55:06Z")

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Long time lurker, very-occassional poster here.

I just wanted to pop on and say that the arguments put forth by **NDD** in this thread are so incredibly stupid that I decided to log into my account for the first time since 2010 to let it be known how this is playing to the folks watching at home:

**NDD 0**  
**Everyone else** (except maybe **b84** ) **One Billion, Million**

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1895 "2012-06-17T23:07:05Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> IQ does not measure moral superiority. It does measure biological superiority. If he was less intelligent Hitler would have been less successful.

So “successful” that he led Germany to ruin with himself dead in a bunker. Hitler was a fool and a disaster. The Allies refrained from trying to assassinate him in part because he was such an incompetent leader; they didn’t want to risk ending up with a replacement who was actually capable.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1896 "2012-06-17T23:07:11Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> How do you know their “black” ancestors weren’t brilliant?

No true black man is intelligent. His Ph.D was the result of affirmative action.

> [@New Deal Democrat](#):
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> Pushkin and Back Obama are mulattoes who owe their high IQ genes to white ancestry.

Would they be smarter if they didn’t have this black blood? Are the offspring of two mulattoes smarter than the offspring of a white and a black?

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1897 "2012-06-17T23:11:53Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I say this based on the assumption that no one would want to make as much a fool of themselves as you constantly do on this board. But maybe you are aware, and you just don’t care about being a laughingstock.

I certainly don’t care about violating the Sacred Leftist Racial Taboo.

> [@](#):
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> Of course, given that you’ve got the mental capacity of a brain-damaged opossum, rudimentary language skills, and compete absence of a sense of humor, a retort beyond “No u!” would be a stretch for you. Go ahead and carry on with the rubber/glue shtick, then.😃

No need to . . . you are the one who is (in effect) insisting that the Oxford Online Dictionary is wrong.

You are the one who seized on a triviality, and then when I pointed out that your nitpick was wrong, accused me of seizing on trivialities.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1898 "2012-06-17T23:25:21Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> Pushkin and Back Obama are mulattoes who owe their high IQ genes to white ancestry.

See, **brazil84**? This is what special pleading actually looks like.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1899 "2012-06-17T23:34:30Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> I certainly don’t care about violating the Sacred Leftist Racial Taboo.

You’re a laughingstock for many, many, other reasons. But yeah, attributing the fact that the scientific evidence doesn’t support your own political biases to a vast liberal conspiracy on the part of the scientific community and everyone else is one of them. It’s blatantly obvious that your and NDD’s evaluation of the science is determined by your own deeply ingrained bigotry and racism, nothing more. The fact that you pompously attribute your opinions to an “open mind” is one of the most laughable things about you.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-bigoted-asshole-omnibus-thread/623489/1900 "2012-06-17T23:43:54Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> I certainly don’t care about violating the Sacred Leftist Racial Taboo.

Then I’m sure that the thoughtful conservatives who read this board will rise to your defense, as I can’t see them beholden to “political correctness” issues.

Any minute now…

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