# SDMB consensuses that you disagree with

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421 "2006-10-22T06:36:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dumbest_Guy_in_the_Room)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/21 "2006-10-22T14:20:02Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
Star Trek Voyager was a great show, especially after Seven of Nine joined.  
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And Star Trek V is one of the best Star Trek movies, (really.)

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**Author:** ![Shecky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@Shecky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shecky)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/22 "2006-10-22T14:20:39Z")

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> Star Trek Voyager was a great show, especially after Seven of Nine joined.

I’m so with you, for like 90% of the series. Some sucked, it’s true, but I liked the direction the writing was in. Everything in the future ain’t great, and the Federation ain’t all-powerful.

In the same vein, I actually liked much of Enterprise, especially the Xindi storyline. The other temporal time war stuff was meh.

And, FWIW, I think Scott Bakula is a decent actor. Have you not seen Neceessary Roughness?

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**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/23 "2006-10-22T14:21:05Z")

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the series **Lost** sucks. It’s enormous popularity here and abroad dismays me.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/24 "2006-10-22T14:37:00Z")

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Richard Pryor and Bill Hciks are hysterically funny. They are ground breaking and ahead of their time, did and said things others didn’t, I agree. But not drop dead side splitting funny. Same with Lenny Bruce.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/25 "2006-10-22T14:37:40Z")

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Non-sequitur responses like “bring pie” aren’t funny or clever at all, and only show the writer to be devoid of any original thought.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/26 "2006-10-22T14:38:24Z")

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I meant like a vietnam movie in terms of one half-squad sneaking through territory where the enemy can pop up at any time. The whole feel of a few guys being on a special mission, alone, detached from normal units, sneaking through the countryside feels like it’d be more thematically appropriate in what we expect of Vietnam movies.

I understand that individually, soldiers are just trying to do their job, etc. I didn’t have a problem with that. You could portray that, but portray them being used in a manner that isn’t so isolated.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/27 "2006-10-22T14:44:28Z")

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[QUOTE=merrily]  
I loved the movie _Constantine_.  
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Thirded.

I also like _Johnny Mnemonic_.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/28 "2006-10-22T16:03:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Gozu]  
the series **Lost** sucks. It’s enormous popularity here and abroad dismays me.  
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What I was going to say: **Lost** is anywhere near good enough to warrant a several page thread every week, never mind its popularity in general.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/29 "2006-10-22T16:14:55Z")

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I think _The Da Vinci Code_ was rather entertaining. I recognize it’s a bad book, but I didn’t mind reading it.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/30 "2006-10-22T16:40:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Gozu]  
the series **Lost** sucks. It’s enormous popularity here and abroad dismays me.  
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Hear hear. Neither is\* Battlestar Galactica\* the best show on television.

Also, _The Princess Bride_ is an amusing little bauble. Nothing wrong with it at all. But it’s not the Greatest Movie Ever Made, which is the impression you’d get if you hang around here too much.

And capital- **L** Literature does not begin with cheesy SF and radiate outward from there. And Stephen King is terrible, terrible, \*terrible \*writer.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/31 "2006-10-22T16:42:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Revtim]  
Non-sequitur responses like “bring pie” aren’t funny or clever at all, and only show the writer to be devoid of any original thought.  
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I think the OP was seeking Cafe Society-consensuses; not a general pitting of SDMB annoyances.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/32 "2006-10-22T16:47:58Z")

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[QUOTE=DataZak]  
The Star Wars Prequels weren’t _that_ bad.

Yes, I’m serious.  
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Well, I am willing to accept the astroid field explosion sequence, not for the really piss-poor science, but because it is a great scene to test Dolby Digital with. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/33 "2006-10-22T16:55:06Z")

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[QUOTE=DataZak]  
The Star Wars Prequels weren’t _that_ bad.

Yes, I’m serious.  
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I think they’re mostly good.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/34 "2006-10-22T17:03:40Z")

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[Quote=DataZak]

The Star Wars Prequels weren’t that bad.

Yes, I’m serious.  
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[QUOTE=Yookeroo]  
I think they’re mostly good.  
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What the hell, they were GREAT!

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/35 "2006-10-22T17:07:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Tengu]  
The Lord of the Rings is horribly over-written, and in need of an editor.  
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That sounds like a SDMB consensus you agree with. I’ve heard very very few people disagree with you on this point.

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**Author:** ![Rodgers01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rodgers01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodgers01)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/36 "2006-10-22T17:12:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
Richard Pryor and Bill Hciks are hysterically funny. They are ground breaking and ahead of their time, did and said things others didn’t, I agree. But not drop dead side splitting funny. Same with Lenny Bruce.  
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Is there a “not” missing in the first sentence? (Seems to be the case when paired with the third.) If so, I agree, at least as far as Richard Pryor goes. Maybe it was funny at the time, but it suuuure hasn’t aged well.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/37 "2006-10-22T17:25:53Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
I think the OP was seeking Cafe Society-consensuses; not a general pitting of SDMB annoyances.  
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Oops, you are correct.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/38 "2006-10-22T17:50:43Z")

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[QUOTE=The Dumbest Guy in the Room]  
And Star Trek V is one of the best Star Trek movies, (really.)  
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Seriously? I like it well enough and rank it near the middle of all Trek movies but one of the best?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/39 "2006-10-22T17:55:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Gorsnak]  
That sounds like a SDMB consensus you agree with. I’ve heard very very few people disagree with you on this point.  
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We’ve clearly not read the same threads, then.

The consensus in the ones I’ve seen is that LotR is Literary Perfection.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dumbest_Guy_in_the_Room)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/40 "2006-10-22T18:44:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Aesiron]

[QUOTE=The Dumbest Guy in the Room]

And Star Trek V is one of the best Star Trek movies, (really.)  
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Seriously? I like it well enough and rank it near the middle of all Trek movies but one of the best?  
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Yeah, it’s not in the same league as II or VI, but I’d give it the 3rd spot. It’s a pretty decent actioner and the scene where Spock kills God, (I remain convinced that the entity on the planet was indeed God), is superb.

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