# SDMB consensuses that you disagree with **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421 "2006-10-22T06:36:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/121 "2006-10-24T20:50:33Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] As long as we are going political. I absolutely do not believe that what Israel does is always ok. Running Rachael over with a bulldozer [/quote] Maybe running Rachel Corrie over was over the top. But I think we should run Rachael Ray over with a bulldozer. She’s perky to the point that she makes me want to vomit. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/122 "2006-10-24T21:29:08Z")
consensus on SDMB seems to be that Harry Potter books are wonderful, wonderful. I could only make it through the first one…the author is derivative to a fault and needs an editor she’ll never get now. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/123 "2006-10-24T21:42:29Z")
[QUOTE=Derleth] What about WWI? How many Great War movies can you name off the top of your head not counting _Flyboys_? I count three: _Paths of Glory_, _Gallipoli_, and _All Quiet on the Western Front_. . [/QUOTE] _The Big Parade. Goodbye Mr. Chips. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp. The African Queen. The Grand Illusion. The Lost Battalion. Mata Hari. The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. East of Eden. Random Harvest. Mr. Skeffington. The Lost Patrol. A Farewell to Arms. Johnny Got His Gun. Waterloo Bridge. Hell’s Angels._ etc. etc. [QUOTE=Derleth] How about Korea? No, _MASH_ doesn’t count. It’s a Vietnam movie with a few strategic name changes. [/QUOTE] Um, _M_A_S_H \* does count; what, no movie with subtext counts? Plus of course:\* The Steel Helmet. The Manchurian CAndidate. The Bridges of Toko Ri. Brother Rat. Inchon.Retreat, Hell! War Hunt. Mission Over Korea. Pork Chop Hill. Battle Hymn. MacArthur. Sayonara. Fixed Bayonets! \* No question that WWII, like the Settling of the West, is among the greatest of all American movie subjects. But still, there have been some notable exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/124 "2006-10-24T21:44:48Z")
[QUOTE=well he’s back] consensus on SDMB seems to be that Harry Potter books are wonderful, wonderful. I could only make it through the first one…the author is derivative to a fault and needs an editor she’ll never get now. [/QUOTE] OK? I made it halfway through the second, but my red-pencilling instincts finally got the better and I threw the damn thing across the room. Plus I don’t like the themes at all. I’m NOT a fan of the HP books. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/125 "2006-10-24T22:26:20Z")
I’d like to second (fifith? Sixth?) In 'n Out Burger’s utter shititude. I’d rather puke than eat those fries. I don’t know if it’s a consensus, but it seems to be a majority here: in every thread about music, a bunch of people always gush over wank-rock/prog shit such as Pink Floyd/Yes/ELP/Rush/Radiohead (Pink Floyd, Jr.) or boring-ass white blues classic rot (Clapton, Led Zep, Allman Bros., Skynyrd, etc.). It boggles my mind that anybody who wasn’t so unfortunate as to be in high school during the early-mid 70s could possibly think any of this dinosaur rock is exciting. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/126 "2006-10-24T22:45:02Z")
Ok, I agree that IN-n-Out is not all that. I think Spielberg’s _A.I._ is a fantastic movie, easily one of his best and better than what Kubrick would have accomplished with it. _The Truman Show_, while entertaining, is not a masterpeice, is in fact lacking and incomplete. _Anchorman_ is one of the all time funniest movies and Will Ferrel makes enjoyable movies (yes, he has clunkers, but generally I like his body of work). _Godfather III_ is a pretty good movie. True it pales compared to I and II, but compare it to 99% of all other movies and it is much better. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/127 "2006-10-24T22:46:39Z")
[QUOTE=nevermore] Agreed. I’ve seen plenty of King-bashing around here, and honestly, I think even his bad stuff isn’t all that bad. When I’ve read something by him I didn’t enjoy, it’s been one of two things: 1) it made me too uncomfortable to continue, or 2) the story itself was ridiculous. Stephen King is a good storyteller. He may not always succeed at creating good stories, but he tells his stories well, and I think that’s a very important part of being a good writer. I’d much rather read a bad story that’s told well than a compelling story that’s written horrifically, which I see far too often in modern popular fiction. [/QUOTE] My opinion on Stephen King’s is that he is one of the best writers of character and setting ever. When he sets the stage and the characters start talking, I’m THERE. That’s part of what makes his books so terrifying - the vampires are coming for YOU. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/128 "2006-10-24T22:49:18Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] Um, _M_A_S_H \* does count; what, no movie with subtext counts? Plus of course:\* The Steel Helmet. The Manchurian CAndidate. The Bridges of Toko Ri. Brother Rat. Inchon.Retreat, Hell! War Hunt. Mission Over Korea. Pork Chop Hill. Battle Hymn. MacArthur. Sayonara. Fixed Bayonets! [/quote] - :eek: You forgot the [best one of them all!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050699/)\* (which, honestly, I would take over any WW2 movie that comes to mind). \*Since _Blimp_ covers multiple conflicts, I’m not counting it in this statement ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/129 "2006-10-24T22:54:10Z")
Oh - also, Krispy Kreme is the nastiset “food” out there. Every time I think it sounds good, I take one bite and that’s as far as I can go. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/130 "2006-10-24T23:32:15Z")
I would like to say in advance that I realize that admitting this probably means that no one on the SDMB will ever listen to a single thing I have to say about anything in Cafe Society again, but I’m gonna do it anyway. I actually enjoy reading Piers Anthony. I know the consensus is that he is a hack whose work isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on but I do like him. I own the Incarnations of Immortality series, several of the Xanth novels and read them fairly regularly. _sigh_ Well, there goes any cred I had in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/131 "2006-10-24T23:44:08Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] I’d like to second (fifith? Sixth?) In 'n Out Burger’s utter shititude. I’d rather puke than eat those fries. I don’t know if it’s a consensus, but it seems to be a majority here: in every thread about music, a bunch of people always gush over wank-rock/prog shit such as Pink Floyd/Yes/ELP/Rush/Radiohead (Pink Floyd, Jr.) or boring-ass white blues classic rot (Clapton, Led Zep, Allman Bros., Skynyrd, etc.). It boggles my mind that anybody who wasn’t so unfortunate as to be in high school during the early-mid 70s could possibly think any of this dinosaur rock is exciting. [/QUOTE] I’ll spot you the Kremes, that’s some shit (from another post). However, I have a serious like for Floyd/Yes/ELP and Radiohead and most of the blues classic rot (except Skynyrd). So shere some alternatives. Who, in your humble opinion, should I test drive? My ears accept they may need education. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/132 "2006-10-24T23:49:08Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] I would like to say in advance that I realize that admitting this probably means that no one on the SDMB will ever listen to a single thing I have to say about anything in Cafe Society again, but I’m gonna do it anyway. I actually enjoy reading Piers Anthony. I know the consensus is that he is a hack whose work isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on but I do like him. I own the Incarnations of Immortality series, several of the Xanth novels and read them fairly regularly. _sigh_ Well, there goes any cred I had in this forum. [/QUOTE] Double posting again. The Tarot trilogy were the best three books ever written. J.R.R. could have learned. There were other early books that I want to find again. Xanth is, however, tripe. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/133 "2006-10-24T23:50:45Z")
[QUOTE=brownie55] I’ll spot you the Kremes, that’s some shit (from another post). However, I have a serious like for Floyd/Yes/ELP and Radiohead and most of the blues classic rot (except Skynyrd). So shere some alternatives. Who, in your humble opinion, should I test drive? My ears accept they may need education. [/QUOTE] Oh, I don’t even think you have to go really “underground” or anything - just good rock stuff like The Clash or Television or The Replacements, that’s still “classic” in a sense, but without all the pomposity. My personal favorites that most of the classic rock fans can get into are Husker Du, Robyn Hitchcock and the first Gang of Four album. I’d be happy to send you a mix CD, if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/134 "2006-10-25T00:42:18Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] - :eek: You forgot the [best one of them all!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050699/)\* (which, honestly, I would take over any WW2 movie that comes to mind). \*Since _Blimp_ covers multiple conflicts, I’m not counting it in this statement [/QUOTE] d’Oh! And I just saw that (_Men in War_) last year, while I was on an Anthony Mann kick . . . ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/135 "2006-10-25T00:56:15Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Oh, I don’t even think you have to go really “underground” or anything - just good rock stuff like The Clash or Television or The Replacements, that’s still “classic” in a sense, but without all the pomposity. My personal favorites that most of the classic rock fans can get into are Husker Du, Robyn Hitchcock and the first Gang of Four album. I’d be happy to send you a mix CD, if you’d like. [/QUOTE] Or just help me build a Pandora station. I love that site, reggae, Dire Straits, Dylan, that have done well by me. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/136 "2006-10-25T01:09:12Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] I actually enjoy reading Piers Anthony. I know the consensus is that he is a hack whose work isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on but I do like him. I own the Incarnations of Immortality series, several of the Xanth novels and read them fairly regularly. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I liked Incarnations of Immortality, and I’m reading the Phaze/Proton books that I can find. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/137 "2006-10-25T03:42:29Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Oh - also, Krispy Kreme is the nastiset “food” out there. Every time I think it sounds good, I take one bite and that’s as far as I can go. [/QUOTE] I’ll forgive your blasphemous remarks about Pink Floyd because I totally agree with you about those little greasewads. Gross beyond belief. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/138 "2006-10-25T04:07:56Z")
Is it okay if I think the first three (maybe four or five but definitely three) Xanth books are decent fun, though the rest are just silly and bad? Or does even this make me non-consensical? -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/139 "2006-10-25T04:22:42Z")
Contrary to any of the weekly discussion threads, I, for one, enjoy _Studio 60_, and think it’s been steadily improving each week. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421/140 "2006-10-25T09:55:09Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] _The Big Parade. Goodbye Mr. Chips. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp. The African Queen. The Grand Illusion. The Lost Battalion. Mata Hari. The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. East of Eden. Random Harvest. Mr. Skeffington. The Lost Patrol. A Farewell to Arms. Johnny Got His Gun. Waterloo Bridge. Hell’s Angels._ etc. etc. Um, _M_A_S_H \* does count; what, no movie with subtext counts? Plus of course:\* The Steel Helmet. The Manchurian CAndidate. The Bridges of Toko Ri. Brother Rat. Inchon.Retreat, Hell! War Hunt. Mission Over Korea. Pork Chop Hill. Battle Hymn. MacArthur. Sayonara. Fixed Bayonets! \* No question that WWII, like the Settling of the West, is among the greatest of all American movie subjects. But still, there have been some notable exceptions. [/QUOTE] Wow- you got all he ones I was going to mention plus more. I would add that there are two versions of The Dawn Patrol. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-consensuses-that-you-disagree-with/377421.md?page=8)