# SDMB Diplomacy 2004.  Shall we play a game?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 15, 2004, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291 "2004-10-15T00:13:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/161 "2004-12-28T05:48:14Z")

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> [@Wikkit](#):
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> I’m playing Austria in another game, **tdn** , and it’s taken a lot of work to not be dead. And it’s only winter '01 right now. Italy attacked me right off the starting line. But in the fall I had the luckiest orders mixup ever, and now I’m cautiously optomistic.

Just checked your map. Not to make you paranoid, but if I was playing in the Russia/Turkey alliance I’d try to really screw you next turn. First, I’d use Rumania to support Serbia into Budapest, figuring that you’re going to try and bounce yourself there. Just in case you do Turkey advances his armies into Bulgaria and Serbia. In case you go the other way and support Vienna into Budapest I move Galicia to Vienna and take Vienna from you instead. But don’t worry, they’ll probably go for something a little more straight forward.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/162 "2004-12-29T04:40:09Z")

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Look at it again now, after the builds. I’m screwed.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2004, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/163 "2004-12-29T12:04:22Z")

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> [@Wikkit](#):
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> Look at it again now, after the builds. I’m screwed.

Yeah, I hadn’t taken into account it was Fall then. Makes my plan worthless. I’m just not so good at this “evil” thing. But actually I see hope in Italy loading up with Fleets, and France has got to be concerned. It is going to be a mess in the Balkans, though. Also, Germany is not in any immediate danger from France, especially with Italy’s fleet build up. Can you convince him to use his Munich army to help you against Italy? If you can stave off Russia and Turkey for a bit you might be able to expel Italy. (One can dream, anyway)

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/164 "2004-12-29T20:09:40Z")

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Sounds interesting. How do you play?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/165 "2004-12-29T20:18:15Z")

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From your smarty-pants ass?

Unlikely we’d teach YOU!

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/166 "2004-12-29T20:38:46Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> From your smarty-pants ass?
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> Unlikely we’d teach YOU!

You always were selfish.

How did the Wooley Mammoths do?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/167 "2004-12-29T20:48:05Z")

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Respectable in WM02. We’re just starting WM04. We’ll have to see how things develop.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/168 "2004-12-30T02:37:59Z")

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> [@ppg\_shg](#):
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> Sounds interesting. How do you play?

\*\*\*He LIVES!?!

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/169 "2004-12-30T16:12:53Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> \*\*\*He LIVES!?!
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> * * *

Dave’s vicious backstabbing nearly killed me off, but thankfully the true meaning of Christmas grew my heart 3 sizes.

What has gone on in the Diplomacy world?

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/170 "2005-01-25T23:27:36Z")

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I’m gonna resurrect this thread because this game _soooooooo_\* needs comment - where’s wierdave, wikkit and ppg\_shg when you need them?!

Have to say as well (and this goes out to all players) that i’m enjoying this game more than all those i’ve played in a while.

I love you guys… 😉

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/171 "2005-01-26T01:14:20Z")

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Probably best to give a link you crazed Englishman.

[http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/SDMB](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/SDMB)

We had three country fatalities this year. Bring the heat.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/172 "2005-01-26T04:14:52Z")

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Post again after the winter turn and I’ll be more than happy to opine. I’d also like you guys to take a look at my map, to see if you can find a way out of my current situation.

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/173 "2005-01-26T08:01:07Z")

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> [@Wikkit](#):
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> I’d also like you guys to take a look at my map, to see if you can find a way out of my current situation.

Link?? I know it’s probably somewhere up there, but, I’m lazy… just look how reluctant my soldiers are to stray to far from the comforts of home 😉

Grim

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/174 "2005-01-26T12:10:05Z")

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> [@Wikkit](#):
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> Post again after the winter turn and I’ll be more than happy to opine. I’d also like you guys to take a look at my map, to see if you can find a way out of my current situation.

First, good to see that you got Trieste back. That build in Budapest should help this Winter. And Italy going down one is even better for you.

Still, I am not enthusiastic about your future prospects (re advancing in the tournament) unless you can persuade either Turkey or Italy to switch sides in order to grow fast and make it to the next round. Stalemates, even for relatively short periods of time, are death in this tournament (do you need to finish top 2 to advance?)

So, you’re certainly back to “respectable” but to win you need not only Russia to support you but for Turkey/Italy to decide someone else is easier pickin’s.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/175 "2005-01-28T04:22:21Z")

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> [@grimpixie](#):
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> Link?? I know it’s probably somewhere up there, but, I’m lazy… just look how reluctant my soldiers are to stray to far from the comforts of home 😉

It is at [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/WM04/](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/WM04/). I am Austria, and the green fellow doesn’t seem to like me. I didn’t post it last time because the turn hadn’t happened yet.

**Shibb** , I’ve actually been allied with Turkey since the beginning. Look at all the support orders he has given that I have ignored. I think this most recent attack on him may not be forgivable, though. I shouldn’t have asked for it, since he didn’t follow the rest of the plan.

Everyone on the board (except France) is trying to get Italy to attack France. His disband indicates that this will not happen. I am apparently better at getting people to forgive me for attacking them than I am at getting them to stop attacking me.

I will comment on your guy’s game, but not tonight.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/176 "2005-02-05T04:20:12Z")

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If anyone is interested, **Weirddave** needs a replacement in the other SDMB game that’s going on.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/177 "2005-05-24T20:30:15Z")

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Well, that had a [happy ending](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/SDMB/F12.html).  
😉

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/178 "2005-05-25T07:34:37Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Well, that had a [happy ending](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/SDMB/F12.html).

Bah humbug!! 🙂

Grim

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/179 "2005-06-16T20:22:14Z")

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Next time you need players, I’m game.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-2004-shall-we-play-a-game/269291/180 "2005-06-16T21:08:14Z")

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I’m up for a PBEM game sometime.

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