# SDMB Diplomacy - Here we go again! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 12, 2002, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833 "2002-03-12T13:15:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/441 "2002-05-20T13:38:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*Just trying to show my loyalty to, with any luck, my new team! \*\* The Ohio Wesleyan [Battling Bishops](http://bishops.owu.edu/)[sup]\*[/sup]? Are you moving here? \*I wonder if they are getting pressure from their alumni to change the mascot? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/442 "2002-05-21T11:47:16Z")
For the spiritually inclined… [Dip 936 has been adjudicated.](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip) ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/443 "2002-05-21T12:34:51Z")
That 936 map is very _busy_. Looks like you guys are nowhere near finishing up. Wanted to apologize to you guys for holding up the adjudication this morning – my orders were late. Dip got lumped in with my list of things to do by 8 AM (write a term paper, study for finals) and I forgot that it actually had to get done by 4. Thanks Nate for the kind reminder. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/444 "2002-05-21T12:49:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > **That 936 map is very _busy_. Looks like you guys are nowhere near finishing up.** The alliance structure in 936 has been very, um, fluid. Or as **Abe Babe** so succinctly put it, we’re all bastiges 😃 ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/445 "2002-05-21T12:56:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by \*\*Math Geek \*\*\* > The alliance structure in 936 has been very, um, fluid. So I see. Our game has been just the opposite for me. Russia and I have had a solid alliance all game. What, that turn in 1904? We were _on a break_! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/446 "2002-05-21T13:39:24Z")
What’s _really_ bizarre about 936 is that they’ve gotten all the way to 1908 _without eliminating a single player_. (Not only that, but each country finished 1907 in control of 3 or more bases. How the Sam Hill did this happen?!) I’m not sure I’ve ever seen another game that survived 190 **5** as a 7-player game, and I’m including games with countries that were down to their last, about-to-be-wiped-out unit. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/447 "2002-05-21T13:50:29Z")
> [@](#): > > as Abe Babe so succinctly put it, we’re all bastiges Ain’t that the fun part? 🙂 You’ve _got_ to be a ‘bastige’ to do well in this game. And you’ve got to be a true, loyal ally. It’s the challenge of knowing when to be one or the other (and trying to guess right on when your _neighbor_ is going to switch from one to the other) that makes the game so interesting. And after you’ve been a bastige to assorted other countries, you can’t complain too loudly when what goes around, comes around and bites you on the ass. (No one would sympathize anyway. :)) In 983, I’ve stabbed on three occasions, and only been stabbed once. I proposed a draw because I wanted to end the game before my karma caught up with me! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/448 "2002-05-21T16:05:55Z")
If, RT, you are done waxing philosophic… [Spring 1907 in Dip 983 has been adjudicated.](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip) Get that retreat in right away RT! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/449 "2002-05-21T16:17:31Z")
My army that so recently occupied Venice, has retreated to Apulia, to cause trouble another day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/450 "2002-05-21T16:47:48Z")
How many states must a man mow down Before you call him a man? Yes, ‘n’ how many seas must a white fleet sail Before it sleeps in France? Yes, ‘n’ how many times must the cannon balls fly Before I can take your land? The alliances, my friend, are blowin’ in the wind, The alliances are blowin’ in the wind. How many times must a man look up Before he can see the stab? Yes, ‘n’ how many ears must one man have Before he can hear people cry? Yes, ‘n’ how many eliminations will it take till he knows That enough people have died? The outcome, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind, The outcome is blowin’ in the wind. How many years can a game exist Before someone’s out of the game? Yes, ‘n’ how many years can some people exist Before they’re sad that the came? Yes, ‘n’ how many times can a man turn his head, Pretending he just doesn’t see? Your ally, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind, Your ally is blowin’ in the wind. with apologies to Bob Dylan ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/451 "2002-05-21T17:12:48Z")
I don’t know about **you** , Abe… But I’m rarely sad that I came. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/452 "2002-05-21T17:34:31Z")
> [@](#): > > how many seas must a white fleet sail > Before it sleeps in France? First there’d have to _be_ a white fleet. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/453 "2002-05-22T12:57:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*I don’t know about **you** , Abe… > > But I’m rarely sad that I came. \*\* You don’t have to tell me. I’m married with two kids now, and don’t really get it as much . . . . What? Oh. Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2002, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/454 "2002-05-23T19:27:57Z")
Dateline:Los Angeles! Don’t forget those orders for Saturday, folks! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2002, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/455 "2002-05-23T19:42:51Z")
Satuday, Boss? But your website, for both Dips, says Tuesday May 28. Which is it? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/456 "2002-05-23T20:23:02Z")
Yeah! What the German dude said! ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2002, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/457 "2002-05-23T20:45:45Z")
Dip due Saturday? I thought it was Tuesday! I’ve let some emails lapse until the weekend! ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2002, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/458 "2002-05-23T23:15:36Z")
AGH! I blame it all on that California thought waves. I’m clearly regressing to my misspent youth in Redondo Beach (Avenue I rules, boy!). The site is correct. You may cease panicking now. Resume your normal lives citizens. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2002, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/459 "2002-05-24T11:48:05Z")
The [page I’ve been looking at](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/983/S07.html) says Saturday. I’m confused. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/460 "2002-05-25T17:18:25Z")
OK, the master page and the turn page have different dates. The master is correct. Tuesday it is, folks. Ugh. 11 hours to cross a continent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833.md?page=24)