# SDMB Diplomacy - Here we go again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 12, 2002, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833 "2002-03-12T13:15:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/41 "2002-03-14T14:19:14Z")

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Well, I’ve rounded up a Germany for us. He’s a relatively new player and someone whom some of you have met at my parties.

Welcome Chris Richards as Germany to Dip 983.

And now there’s a website:

[http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/983](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/983)

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/42 "2002-03-14T14:53:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> \*\*I’m abstaining from email with other players concerning this game until we have a German player, and I would encourage others to do the same, to keep the playing field level. \*\*

Fair enough, **RT**. But, for the record, I will consider your silence as a rejection of my offer of cash and and airfare to Maui. Your loss.

Sua

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/43 "2002-03-14T15:44:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \*  
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> Fair enough, **RT**. But, for the record, I will consider your silence as a rejection of my offer of cash and and airfare to Maui. Your loss.
> 
> Sua \*\*

How about boat fare to Edinburgh?

I do so love to travel the world, meet new people and subjugate them.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/44 "2002-03-14T16:13:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \*  
> Fair enough, **RT**. But, for the record, I will consider your silence as a rejection of my offer of cash and and airfare to Maui. Your loss.

“Just for that, you don’t get the job I was going to give you.”  
“What job?”  
“Secretary of War.”  
“Sold!”

– Rufus T. Firefly and Chicolini in _Duck Soup_  
OK, we’ve got seven. Time to Dip. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/45 "2002-03-14T17:31:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> \*\*Tough break for the Davemeister.
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> Here’s where we see just how committed an ally Austria is. \*\*

_shrug_ What ya gonna do? If nobody wants to be your ally and everyone attacks you right off the bat, you’re going down. Nature of the game.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/46 "2002-03-14T17:57:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Weirddave \*  
> \*\*_shrug_ What ya gonna do? If nobody wants to be your ally and everyone attacks you right off the bat, you’re going down. Nature of the game. \*\*

I agree, it sucks to be betrayed year one. I’ve had it happen to me too. But gains must eventually come at the expense of another, and this seemed my best option (not to mention an opening I’ve never attempted before.) No hard feelings?

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/47 "2002-03-14T18:15:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> No hard feelings at all. I was working on backstabbing your ally anyway. He made her a better offer. (Having me wiped out so that she had no help fending off Sicily)

Oh, there’s more to it than just that.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/48 "2002-03-14T19:01:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lno \*  
> \*\*Oh, there’s more to it than just that. \*\*

That sounds mysterious. Maybe someone could fill in the poor, bemused leader of Sicily. I’m sure he’d like to know the full story.

The only thing ryoushi left behind in the war-room before his exile were a few maps of the south Pacific, and some mutterings about the island of Lemuria. I’m not sure what he was up to.

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/49 "2002-03-14T19:33:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Waverly \*  
> \*\*The only thing ryoushi left behind in the war-room before his exile were a few maps of the south Pacific, and some mutterings about the island of Lemuria. I?m not sure what he was up to. \*\*

Why, clearly that’s where he was researching his new long-range bombers, with the improved attack radius…oh, wait, I’m thinking of _Axis and Allies_. Never mind, wrong board game.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/50 "2002-03-14T19:51:07Z")

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On on our Dip 983 page:

1. The SDMB thread link doesn’t go to this thread, it goes to a 5-page thread on some previous game. I assume this is unintentional.

2. For me, I can’t get the picture of the map at the bottom to come up. I tried it from home this morning and figured it was my computer or something, but it doesn’t work from school either. Anyone else having this problem?

3. My name is misspelled. Nitpicky, I know. But I guess I’m vain.  
Also, about ‘press’… How does it work? Should we email it to **Jonathan Chance** and he sends it out to the appropriate parties?

Sorry about all the questions. Just trying to keep things straight since I’m new and all. And I didn’t want to ask questions about strategical things like press once the game already starts – you know, like asking in the middle of a poker hand “If I _hypothetically_ had a flush, would that beat a straight?”

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/51 "2002-03-18T15:57:53Z")

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R is for Roll over, which you all ought to do,  
U is for Umpire, our trusted Nate. Thank you,  
S is for Superpower, which I will strive to be,  
S is for Stab, which none should do to me,  
I is for Intrigue, try not to make you mad,  
A is for Abject, the defeat that makes you sad.

Abe Babe, who puts the PO’ in POETRY.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/52 "2002-03-19T13:11:47Z")

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And for the technically inclined…

[Spring 1902 in Dip 936 has been ajudicated.](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Man, I love the new VBCode functions. It’s **So** much simple.

And I promise not to abuse it.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/53 "2002-03-19T13:33:59Z")

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What if it’s one of ‘those’ kind of codes that, you know, likes the abuse?

**JC** , first moves in your other game are due on Thursday, right?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/54 "2002-03-19T14:52:22Z")

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Thursday it is, **Abe**. That should give everyone more than enough time to figure out how to start the game.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/55 "2002-03-19T19:38:10Z")

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**Abe Babe** , that poetry was PO’!

You are giving another meaning to the term “Mother Russia.”

😃

Am I now the “Austrian Connection” ?

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/56 "2002-03-20T15:38:31Z")

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FTR, is this an NMR game or not?

(For newcomers, an NMR game in one where, if you fail to turn in orders on time, all your units just hold for that turn. A non-NMR game means that JC will try to get ahold of you to get your late orders while the rest of the players get pissed off.)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/57 "2002-03-20T19:00:18Z")

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Boy, that’s a DAMN good question.

And one I’ll pose during the first adjudication.

But feel free to express yourselves here, children. Feel free.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2002, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/58 "2002-03-21T05:40:20Z")

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Sadly, I didn’t get a chance to read the MB much last week with guests and the big weekend, and this thread went totally unnoticed.

Looks like I missed the start of another game, damn it. I’ll still be available for the next game, shoot me an email if possible.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2002, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/59 "2002-03-21T10:13:34Z")

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Is there no word on the Turkey talk?

The Diet of Turkey?  
Are we proceeding as planned with Spring 1901 due Thursday March 21 at 7:00 am? Is that 7:00 PT?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/60 "2002-03-21T14:06:37Z")

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All times are Eastern US Time. That’s my time zone and I’m sticking to it.

One of the players had a rules clarification question so I’ve delayed the first turn until tomorrow (Friday) at 7AM EST.

Players may use the extra time to change orders if they so desire. You know where to reach me, children.

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