# SDMB Diplomacy - Here we go again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 12, 2002, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833 "2002-03-12T13:15:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/121 "2002-03-30T01:09:32Z")

</div>

I gotta admit, the game looks intriguing as hell. I’ll be watching this one to learn about how it plays… how would a newbie like me know when the next SDMB round is open for players?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/122 "2002-03-30T01:57:24Z")

</div>

**erislover** , I think you’d be a natural at this game.

I’d say check this thread regularly, and also email **Jonathan Chance** to let him know you’d like to be considered for the next game.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/123 "2002-03-30T02:32:19Z")

</div>

From _Fiddler on the Roof_:

“Rabbi, do you have a proper blessing for the Tsar?”

“Certainly, my son: ‘May God bless and keep the Tsar…far away from us!’”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/124 "2002-03-30T02:57:50Z")

</div>

Just can’t stop the taunting, eh?

For the rest of you, you can witness a complete backstab- my countries even look like they’re in pain- in Dip 938.

Russia convinced Austria to move to support him against Turkey, and went to the trouble of outlining the whole campaign. Austria made every move, while being assured Italy was a friendly power.

So Austria bit completely, and is now about to be overrun by Tukey, Italy and Russia. A masterful deception, Austria had no chance.

I apologize to the other players for my overreaction, and publicly ask the gamemaster’s forgiveness for the email.

Others have been addressed in private mail.

I implore you, before you enter any of these games- read the above thread, it’s too late for me.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/125 "2002-03-30T05:26:01Z")

</div>

Dang, Steeler, nothing hurts worse than getting NO builds the first year. And the only thing that comes close to hurting that bad is seeing the guy who stabbed you achieve the coveted three first-year builds expoit.

But don’t give up. Even though Turkey supported Russia last year, don’t count on that lasting. Turkey is suddenly your new best buddy. And why? Cause Turkey KNOWS that you will do whatever it takes to kick Russia. And you are weak. Weak allies are good since they don’t dare backstab. Weakness can actually be a benefit sometimes. I know it sucks to be forced into the stooge role, but wouldn’t it be better to be Turkey’s stooge than to let Russia roll right over you?

Now…If I were Russia, you know what I’d do? Build a Fleet in Sev, that’s what. With that Fleet Russia can take the Black and start murdering Turkey. See, Russia has to build in the south to take you all the way down, but every southern build is a threat to Turkey. Even if Russia never actually attacks Turkey, Russia will still be grabbing up all the delicious chewy Austrian and balkan supply centers. Turkey is boxed in.

Turkey knows this. Turkey does NOT want to see Austria go down so quickly, not when Turkey gets nothing in return except vague promises of future help.

Ahhhh, Diplomacy.

Ummm…when is the next game going to be organized? According to Nate’s website he’s only mastering 3 games right now…surely adding another wouldn’t be a problem…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2002, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/126 "2002-03-30T11:35:21Z")

</div>

TWO SDMB games at a time! I have Cat23 people I play with, you know. And I’m spending some time helping to play test a new variant as well!

I think **RTFirefly** should run a game or two. Yeah…that’s a great idea…Bishop should go.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/127 "2002-04-02T14:10:22Z")

</div>

OK, after a layoff of a week we’re going to get moving again.

Abe? Please write.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/128 "2002-04-02T19:50:02Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*Abe? Please write. \*\*

Mom?? When did you move to Virginia?

Winter builds have been submitted. I needed to get out of the sun anyway.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/129 "2002-04-02T20:11:15Z")

</div>

Hey, just because I’m in Virginia now doesn’t mean I’m not FROM the Windy city! You got me, young man?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2002, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/130 "2002-04-03T12:44:38Z")

</div>

Two things…

[Winter 1901 in Dip SDMB 983 has been adjudicated](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

and

A player has asked for another day for 936. Thursday it is!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/131 "2002-04-03T13:45:36Z")

</div>

Two Russian Black Sea fleets…that’s different. 🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2002, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/132 "2002-04-04T13:25:29Z")

</div>

So it is! But not unheard of. Not in the least.

[Winter 1903 in Dip 936 has been adjudicated](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Enjoy and kibitz people!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/133 "2002-04-08T22:20:36Z")

</div>

Remember, folks!

Moves for both 936 and 983 are due tomorrow morning at 7AM!

Don’t be late!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/134 "2002-04-09T01:40:27Z")

</div>

Out of curiosity, when’s the next deadline for the Abberation game?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/135 "2002-04-09T13:11:51Z")

</div>

Am I the only one who’s getting withdrawal because it’s been 13 days since the last ‘real’ moves? (Builds don’t really count.)

I’m sitting here, checking [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/983/S02.html](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/983/S02.html) every minute or two, so I can see “HTTP/1.1 404 Object Not Found” yet one more time.

And in between, I check the Yahoo! email that I use for Dip, just in case Nate’s emailed the results but hasn’t posted them on the website. Yup, still “No Unread Messages”.

And of course I’m wondering whether Nate hasn’t posted the results because he’s got work to do at work (horrors!), or because he’s just off to a slow start this morning, or whether we’re doing the NMR dance yet again.

I think it’s the uncertainty about that last possibility that has me on edge. If I was sure we really _were_ going to see moves in a few hours, I’d sit back, relax, and get to work. It’s the not knowing that’s a killer.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/136 "2002-04-09T13:23:07Z")

</div>

And, of course, I feel like a damned fool for getting so antsy. :o

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/137 "2002-04-09T14:37:54Z")

</div>

Well, at least you aren’t feeling ‘waspy’ RT.

[Spring 1902 has been adjudicated.](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Let’s here some chatter out there! Keep the thread alive!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/138 "2002-04-09T15:15:47Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> Well, at least you aren’t feeling ‘waspy’ RT.

Of course not, I’m half Jewish! 😃

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/139 "2002-04-09T16:29:29Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> \*\*Of course not, I’m half Jewish! 😃 \*\*

Top half or bottom half?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/140 "2002-04-09T17:53:18Z")

</div>

Hey, judging from the hairline I’d say it’s the top half.

HEY HEY! We kid because we love, right?

Here’s a happier note:

[Spring 1904 in Dip 936 has been adjudicated.](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Get those retreats into me ASAP!

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833.md?page=6)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833.md?page=8)
