# SDMB Diplomacy - Here we go again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 12, 2002, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833 "2002-03-12T13:15:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/141 "2002-04-09T18:55:43Z")

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And the big dogs both take a hit.

Woof.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/142 "2002-04-09T19:07:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> Top half or bottom half?

Well, I’m circumcised, if that’s any help. 😉

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/143 "2002-04-09T19:20:51Z")

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Geesh, Italy is such a funny little country. What a weird position… you guys should have warned me.  
Oh yeah, and also, YOU GUYS ARE SO SNEAKY! I can hardly keep up.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/144 "2002-04-09T20:50:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> \*\*Well, I’m circumcised, if that’s any help. 😉 \*\*

:Checks item off of list: You passed the **JDT** test.

Lessee here, do you know the secret aging ex-hippies in LA who created anime, and did you used to live in a particle accelerator?

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/145 "2002-04-09T20:53:28Z")

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Let it never be said that Diplomacy is boring. Or simple. How many variables do I have to consider before my next move? 14? 398? Yeesh.

Oh well, I shouldn’t have any trouble figuring out the math 😃

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/146 "2002-04-09T23:51:49Z")

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I know some guys who once tried to reduce the game to an equation. It was an enormous vector sum analysis.

Never worked though. It always pre-supposed that the other players would make rational moves.

How silly.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/147 "2002-04-10T01:57:05Z")

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Now that I’ve gotten _that_ out of the way, a trio of good Dip quotes, starting with one from _Bored of the Rings_:

“While there was still a King at Ribroast, the boggies remained nominally his subjects, and to the last battle at Ribroast with the Slumlord of Borax, they sent some snipers, though who they sided with is unclear.”

And “a popular Maoist saying” from [Doonesbury](http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.cfm?uc_full_date=19751225&uc_comic=db&uc_daction=X): “There is great disorder under heaven, and the situation is excellent.”

And finally, words to the failed diplomat:

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> The things, you say  
> Your purple prose just gives you away  
> The things, you say  
> You’re unbelievable

You know the beat. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/148 "2002-04-10T02:20:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> Lessee here, do you know the secret aging ex-hippies in LA who created anime, and did you used to live in a particle accelerator?

_shiver_ Chas. Enfante terrible and pathological liar. Let us never speak of him again.

Math Geek: You have been an outstanding ally, but it time for you to die. _cue Bond-villian laughter_

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/149 "2002-04-10T14:15:06Z")

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With **Waverly** deciding to open a two-front war and **Weirddave** trusting him again, I’m far from assuming that anyone is acting rationally 😃

But still, there’s nothing wrong with a good tactical analysis.

Oh, and **Waverly** …you _do_ realize the Bond villians always lose, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/150 "2002-04-10T14:47:01Z")

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At this point, **Weirddave** pretty much has to trust somebody.

And don’t forget, James Bond also always steals the villain’s hot girlfriend/pilot/fembot, or whatever.

“Mmmmmmm. . . Susan St. James”

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**Author:** ![Clarissa\_xx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Clarissa\_xx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clarissa_xx)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/151 "2002-04-10T15:02:45Z")

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What about the damsel in distress??? Shouldn’t the damsel in distress be rescued???

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/152 "2002-04-10T17:22:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Clarissa\_xx \*  
> \*\*What about the damsel in distress??? Shouldn’t the damsel in distress be rescued??? \*\*

[Eddie Haskell]  
“And might I say how lovely that distress looks on you, Mrs. Cleaver.”  
[/Eddie Haskell]

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/153 "2002-04-10T19:40:06Z")

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I think all three of the damsels are in distress, but two of them are resisting my noble attempts at rescue by plotting against me. What’s a hero to do?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/154 "2002-04-10T22:53:01Z")

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“Rescue”?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Feh!

Orders for both 936 and 983 are due tomorrow morning at 7AM!

Don’t be late!

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/155 "2002-04-11T02:08:31Z")

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Lay on, MacDuff, and damned be he who first cries, “Hold, enough!”

…

Sorry, it just seemed appropriate.

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/156 "2002-04-11T08:06:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Waverly \*  
> \*\*I think all three of the damsels are in distress, but two of them are resisting my noble attempts at rescue by plotting against me. What’s a hero to do? \*\*

Bah.

You want me dead and you know it.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/157 "2002-04-11T12:06:26Z")

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Hey you crazy kids…

[Fall 1902 in Dip 983 has been adjudicated.](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/158 "2002-04-11T13:21:31Z")

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One of these days, I’ve got to play Austria, just for the challenge. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/159 "2002-04-11T14:25:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by White Lightning \*  
> \*\*Geesh, Italy is such a funny little country. What a weird position… you guys should have warned me.  
> Oh yeah, and also, YOU GUYS ARE SO SNEAKY! I can hardly keep up. \*\*

You seem to be managing. 🙂

Toldja before '02 began that I’d love to trade places with you. Not that I’m complaining about my _own_ position, mind you, but that’s still true. You’ve got a _great_ position. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-here-we-go-again/97833/160 "2002-04-11T18:06:06Z")

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I am beset by family medical problems. Last week, a nephew was born about two months premature, and yesterday my mother went into the hospital as the result of a severe asthma attack.

I have requested a ten-day delay from our honored gamemaster to allow me to deal with these problems. Unfortunately, while it appears that my nephew is close to being out of danger, my mother’s condition remains the same as when she went into the hospital - no better, no worse.

Accordingly, I am requesting a replacement for my (somewhat unenviable) role as Prime Minister of England. I want to make clear that, if no one wants to take on the role, I will continue after the 10-day postponement. I really don’t want to screw up the game for my fellow players. That being said, I would really appreciate someone stepping in for me.

Sua

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