# SDMB Diplomacy World Championship

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 11, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571 "2005-11-11T14:24:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/241 "2006-02-20T13:35:55Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Hrm. Let me check. It wouldn’t be the first time I botched something.
> 
> Just ask Shibb.

Tis true. I may have just experienced the greatest turnaround in Dip history. And it happened all in the same round. **JC** is trying to make me bipolar.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/242 "2006-02-20T15:00:08Z")

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> [@Alan Smithee](#):
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> Hey, I’m coming to conquer you as fast as I can! Gimme time…I’ll get there.

Regrettably, by the time you get to order a cup of Turkish coffee in Vauxhall Gardens, they’ll all be speaking German. ☹

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/243 "2006-02-21T01:57:25Z")

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So…what’s going on? Have retreats been submitted? Are orders due tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/244 "2006-02-21T11:19:32Z")

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> [@Orbifold](#):
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> So…what’s going on? Have retreats been submitted? Are orders due tomorrow?

My retreat has been submitted - I don’t know whether The Case of the Missing Orders have been resolved yet, but I would guess we sit tight until told otherwise…

Grim

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/245 "2006-02-21T11:32:01Z")

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> [@grimpixie](#):
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> My retreat has been submitted - I don’t know whether The Case of the Missing Orders have been resolved yet, but I would guess we sit tight until told otherwise…
> 
> Grim

This is what I’m doing…anxiously, I might add.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/246 "2006-02-21T14:16:06Z")

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Corrected adjudication is posted here: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Fall orders are due Thursday with builds due Friday. Be there!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/247 "2006-02-21T14:19:46Z")

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Our hospitalized player has let me know that he’s back in gear.

Orders for Fall 1904 are due next THURSDAY to allow everyone to get back in the swing.

[http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/248 "2006-02-21T14:38:58Z")

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Surgeon General determines that playing the Austrian position is [hazardous to your health](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359835). Did anyone ever find **John Corrado**?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/249 "2006-02-22T14:30:35Z")

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Austria A ser retreats to bul.  
English F nor retreats to ska.

Updated map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

FALL IS DUE TOMORROW as I’m traveling M-W next week and I’m pressed for time. So get those orders in!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/250 "2006-02-24T14:35:43Z")

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Note: I won’t mention the name of the lateness. Grr!

But get those retreats and builds right in and I’ll try to adjudicate them today. There’s a good chance I’ll be on travel next week so if it’s not today it may be a while.

Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Retreats/Disbands:  
Russian A Rumania has no retreats, disbanded.  
English F Sweden can retreat to Finland or Gulf of Bothnia or OTB.  
Turkish F Tunis can retreat to North Africa or Western Mediterranean or OTB.  
Austrian A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia or OTB.

Get 'em in right away!

Builds/Disbands for Winter:  
Austria must remove 1 unit.  
England must remove two units.  
France may build 1 unit. May build A or F in bre or mar.  
Germany may build 1 unit. May build A or F in ber or kie.  
Italy may build two units. May build A or F in nap, rom or ven.

Schedule:  
Winter 1904 Orders due: Friday, February 24, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Spring 1905 Orders due: Thursday, March 2, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1905 Orders due: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

That’s TODAY for builds, people!

And the orders:  
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna - Trieste (_Cut_)  
A Bulgaria - Serbia (_Fails_)  
A Vienna - Trieste (_Dislodged_)

England: F Norwegian Sea - Edinburgh  
F Skagerrak Supports F Sweden - Denmark (_Cut_)  
F Sweden - Denmark (_Dislodged_)

France: F English Channel - Mid-Atlantic Ocean  
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - Tuscany  
F Liverpool Hold  
A Marseilles - Piedmont  
A Picardy - Paris  
A Spain - Tuscany

Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden  
A Denmark Supports F Baltic Sea - Sweden  
F London - Yorkshire  
A Munich - Tyrolia  
F North Sea - Skagerrak (_Fails_)  
A Ruhr - Munich

Italy: F Ionian Sea - Tunis  
A Serbia - Budapest (_Fails_)  
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna  
A Tyrolia - Vienna  
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Ionian Sea - Tunis

Russia: A Finland - St Petersburg  
F Norway Hold  
A Rumania Supports A Warsaw - Galicia (_Disbanded_)  
A St Petersburg - Livonia  
A Warsaw - Galicia

Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea  
A Galicia - Rumania  
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea  
A Moscow - Sevastopol  
F Tunis Hold (_Dislodged_)  
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia - Rumania

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/251 "2006-02-24T15:26:34Z")

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No need to arse around with any emails. F Swe retreats OTB and then F Ska is removed. I don’t think I’m handing too much advantage to my opponents by denying myself the secrecy of email. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/252 "2006-02-27T14:36:26Z")

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Woof! I didn’t even see that until just now!

English F swe retreats OTB.  
Turkish F tun retreats to wes.  
Austria A vie retreats OTB.

NOTE: Builds are now due TOMORROW as I didn’t go on my planned trip. It’s a long story.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/253 "2006-02-27T14:44:58Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Woof! I didn’t even see that until just now!
> 
> English F swe retreats OTB.  
> Turkish F tun retreats to wes.  
> Austria A vie retreats OTB.
> 
> NOTE: Builds are now due TOMORROW as I didn’t go on my planned trip. It’s a long story.

Sorry. Would’ve been simpler if I’d emailed.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/254 "2006-02-28T19:50:34Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Schedule:  
Spring 1905 Orders due: Thursday, March 2, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1905 Orders due: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Winter 1905 Orders due: Thursday, March 9, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:  
Austria: None

England: Remove F Skagerrak

France: Build F Marseilles

Germany: Build A Berlin

Italy: Build F Naples  
Build A Venice

Russia: None

Turkey: None

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/255 "2006-03-01T04:27:47Z")

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Folks, just a heads-up: I’m helping the local sysadmin test a new server, and one of the things that may not be working is the e-mail server. Some of my recent e-mails have been addressed from “nmath.ucr.edu”, but that server doesn’t seem to receive e-mail reliably. Any e-mail to me should be addressed to “math.ucr.edu”, without the ‘n’.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/256 "2006-03-02T16:22:11Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Retreats/Disbands:  
English F Edinburgh can retreat to Norwegian Sea or Clyde or OTB.  
Italian A Serbia can retreat to Albania or OTB.  
Italian A Venice can retreat to Apulia or OTB.

Those are due by tomorrow morning or they default OTB.

Schedule:  
Fall 1905 Orders due: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Winter 1905 Orders due: Thursday, March 9, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Spring 1906 Orders due: Wednesday, March 15, 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:  
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna (_Void_)  
A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania - Serbia

England: F Edinburgh Hold (_Dislodged_)

France: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea  
F Liverpool - North Atlantic Ocean  
F Marseilles - Spain(sc)  
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Africa  
A Paris - Gascony  
A Piedmont Supports A Tuscany - Venice  
A Tuscany - Venice

Germany: A Berlin - Silesia  
A Denmark, no move received  
A Munich - Bohemia  
F North Sea Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh  
F Sweden, no move received  
A Tyrolia - Trieste (_Fails_)  
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh

Italy: F Naples - Rome  
A Serbia - Greece (_Dislodged_)  
A Trieste Supports A Venice (_Cut_)  
F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea  
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea  
A Venice Hold (_Dislodged_)  
A Vienna - Tyrolia (_Fails_)

Russia: A Galicia - Ukraine (_Fails_)  
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow  
F Norway Hold  
A St Petersburg - Moscow

Turkey: F Greece - Ionian Sea (_Fails_)  
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea  
A Rumania - Serbia  
A Sevastopol - Rumania  
A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania (_Cut_)  
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/257 "2006-03-06T14:28:12Z")

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English F edi retreats to cly.  
Italian A ser retreats to alb.  
Italian A ven retreats to apu.

Updated map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Fall 1905 Orders due: Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/258 "2006-03-06T15:04:35Z")

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Hmm. Wonder where all those German fleets are going next now that England’s been eliminated. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/259 "2006-03-07T00:19:35Z")

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Is game 2 excessively “fleety?” I count 15 fleets and 19 armies. That seems a little more naval than normal in my not very extensive experience. Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/260 "2006-03-07T01:36:47Z")

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> [@CapnPitt](#):
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> Is game 2 excessively “fleety?” I count 15 fleets and 19 armies. That seems a little more naval than normal in my not very extensive experience. Thoughts?

Perhaps, but look back to 1902 and compare. Ebb and flow.

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