# SDMB Diplomacy World Championship

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 11, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571 "2005-11-11T14:24:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/261 "2006-03-07T06:23:25Z")

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> [@CapnPitt](#):
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> Is game 2 excessively “fleety?” I count 15 fleets and 19 armies. That seems a little more naval than normal in my not very extensive experience. Thoughts?

Stupid trivia of the day: only 14 land spaces on the board _aren’t_ coastal. Of those 14, 13 are adjacent to coastal spaces (and hence might be taken with the help of a fleet cutting support somewhere). Only in Bohemia are you completely safe from the wrath of navies.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/262 "2006-03-08T18:12:32Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Retreats/Disbands:  
Turkish A Bulgaria has no retreats, disbanded.  
French A Burgundy can retreat to Paris or OTB.

That’s due by tomorrow morning or it defaults OTB.

Builds/Disbands for Winter:  
Austria must remove 1 unit.  
England may build 2 units. May build A or F in edi, lon or lvp  
France must remove 1 unit.  
Germany must remove 1 unit.  
Italy must remove 1 unit.  
Russia may build 1 unit. May build A or F in stp.  
Turkey may build 1 unit. May build A or F in ank.

Schedule:  
Winter 1904 Orders due: Friday, March 10, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Spring 1905 Orders due: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1905 Orders due: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:

Austria: F Aegean Sea Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria (_Cut_)  
F Albania - Ionian Sea  
A Budapest, Hold  
A Galicia - Rumania  
A Greece Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria  
A Rumania - Bulgaria  
A Serbia Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria  
A Ukraine - Galicia

England: A Belgium - Picardy (_Fails_)  
F English Channel - Brest  
F Kiel Hold  
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F English Channel - Brest  
F North Sea - English Channel  
A Norway - St Petersburg (_Bounce_)

France: A Burgundy - Marseilles (_Dislodged_)  
F Gascony Supports F Portugal - Spain(sc)  
A Picardy Hold  
F Portugal - Spain(sc)

Germany: F Gulf of Bothnia - St Petersburg(sc) (_Bounce_)

Italy: A Piedmont Supports F Spain(sc) - Marseilles  
F Rome - Tyrrhenian Sea  
A Ruhr - Burgundy  
F Spain(sc) - Marseilles  
A Tyrolia - Finland (_Fails_)  
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean

Russia: F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol  
F Denmark - Sweden  
A Moscow - St Petersburg (_Bounce_)  
A Munich Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy  
A Sevastopol Hold  
A Silesia - Warsaw

Turkey: A Bulgaria Hold (_Disbanded_)  
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria  
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea (_Fails_)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/263 "2006-03-08T18:14:28Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Retreats/Disbands:  
Italian F Ionian Sea can retreat to Naples or Aegean Sea or Eastern Mediterranean or OTB.  
Russian F Norway can retreat to Skagerrak or Norwegian Sea or Barents Sea or St Petersburg(nc) or OTB.  
Italian F Tunis has no retreats, disbanded.

Those are due by tomorrow or they go OTB.

Builds/Disbands for Winter:  
England must remove 1 unit.  
France may build 1 unit. May build A in par or A or F in bre or mar.  
Germany may build 2 units. May build A in mun or A or F in ber or kie.  
Italy must remove 2 units.  
Turkey may build 1 unit. May build A or F in ank, con or smy.

Schedule:  
Winter 1905 Orders due: Friday, March 10, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Spring 1906 Orders due: Wednesday, March 15, 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1906 Orders due: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:  
Austria: A Budapest - Trieste (_Bounce_)  
A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia

England: F Clyde Hold

France: A Gascony Hold  
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea  
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool  
F North Africa Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis  
A Piedmont Supports A Venice  
F Spain(sc) - Western Mediterranean  
A Venice Supports A Tyrolia - Trieste

Germany: A Bohemia - Silesia  
A Denmark - Norway  
F Edinburgh Hold  
F North Sea Convoys A Denmark - Norway  
A Silesia - Prussia  
F Sweden Supports A Denmark - Norway  
A Tyrolia - Trieste (_Bounce_)

Italy: A Albania Hold  
A Apulia Supports F Rome  
F Ionian Sea Supports F Tunis (_Dislodged_)  
F Rome Hold  
A Trieste Supports A Vienna (_Cut_)  
F Tunis Supports F Ionian Sea (_Disbanded_)  
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

Russia: A Galicia - Rumania (_Fails_)  
A Livonia - Warsaw  
A Moscow - Sevastopol  
F Norway - Sweden (_Dislodged_)

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports F Greece - Ionian Sea  
F Greece - Ionian Sea  
A Rumania - Budapest (_Fails_)  
A Serbia Supports A Budapest - Trieste  
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis  
A Ukraine - Galicia (_Fails_)

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/264 "2006-03-08T18:50:12Z")

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**Jonathan** , the game two map doesn’t seem to have updated; it’s still the same as the S05 map.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/265 "2006-03-08T19:01:33Z")

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Oops! It’s fixed.

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**Author:** ![Kyyrewyyoae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Kyyrewyyoae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyyrewyyoae)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/266 "2006-03-08T19:04:59Z")

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Well, looks like I’m history. Good luck to everyone, and thanks for kicking my ass!

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/267 "2006-03-08T19:30:41Z")

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Aha! I have lured other nations onto my home ground for a trap of _fromage_!

[sub]…Or something like that[/sub] 😉

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/268 "2006-03-08T20:05:25Z")

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> [@CapnPitt](#):
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> Is game 2 excessively “fleety?” I count 15 fleets and 19 armies. That seems a little more naval than normal in my not very extensive experience. Thoughts?

I just noticed that Game 1 had 16 fleets and 18 armies as of your question. You game is even more “fleety” than ours. So I suppose based on the available sample size, the answer is no.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2006, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/269 "2006-03-09T09:19:42Z")

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Ah, I see that Russia’s reward for helping to stomp me is to get burned in his turn by Germany. Whatever the Russian is for _schadenfreude_, that’s what I’ve got.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/270 "2006-03-09T16:39:21Z")

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French A bur retreats to par.

Updated map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Builds/Disbands are due tomorrow!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/271 "2006-03-09T16:43:24Z")

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Italian F ion retreats to nap.  
Russian F nor retreats OTB.

Updated map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Builds/Disbands are due tomorrow!

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/272 "2006-03-13T18:52:36Z")

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The SDMB1 map isn’t updated for Winter 1904. Is the March 15 deadline still in force?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/273 "2006-03-13T20:25:56Z")

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Game 2 is up in the air too. Hopefully I didn’t miss a message or anything. Did **JC** win the lottery and abandon us?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/274 "2006-03-13T22:24:44Z")

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No, the curse of SDMB Diplomacy claimed another victim and I’ve been through (minor) surgery over the last week. I feel miserable.

I’m telling you, children, this game KILLS.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/275 "2006-03-14T00:37:42Z")

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Minor surgery…that’s what my stabs will be called from here on in.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/276 "2006-03-15T14:57:46Z")

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I’m back. Weary but back.

Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Schedule:  
Spring 1906 Orders due: Wednesday, March 22, 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1906 Orders due: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Winter 1906 Orders due: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:

Austria: None

England: Remove F Clyde

France: Build A Marseilles

Germany: Build A Berlin  
Build A Munich

Italy: Remove A Vienna  
Remove F Rome

Russia: Build A St Petersburg

Turkey: Build A Ankara

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/277 "2006-03-15T15:04:33Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Schedule:  
Spring 1905 Orders due: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1905 Orders due: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Winter 1905 Orders due: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:

Austria: Remove A Galicia

England: Build F Liverpool  
Build A London

France: Remove A Picardy

Germany: Remove F Gulf of Bothnia

Italy: Remove A Tyrolia

Russia: Build A St Petersburg

Turkey: Build F Ankara

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/278 "2006-03-15T19:28:54Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> I’m back. Weary but back.

Get well soon, JC, and thanks for everything.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/279 "2006-03-15T22:07:15Z")

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> [@Orbifold](#):
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> Get well soon, JC, and thanks for everything.

Rub some dirt on it, walk it off.

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/280 "2006-03-15T22:55:03Z")

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**JC** well, I’m glad to hear that it was at least _minor_. However, docs call all sorts of crap minor. I’m glad you’re on the mend.

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