# SDMB Diplomacy World Championship

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 11, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571 "2005-11-11T14:24:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/141 "2005-12-14T16:17:14Z")

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Woo! Dogpile on Germany! Good times, good times.

In game one, Turkey…WTF?

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/142 "2005-12-14T16:45:48Z")

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Must suck to be Austria in game 1 – four failures out of five orders? Apparently Turkey upset quite the apple-cart there…

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/143 "2005-12-14T19:01:08Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> In game one, Turkey…WTF?

:shrug:

I was hoping to catch Austria sleeping. It doesn’t really matter anymore becuase Russia and Austria are allied against me. It reallly doesn’t matter any more becuase Austria is in prime position and I assume will turn on Russia this turn.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/144 "2005-12-14T19:41:25Z")

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Well, it’s not quite that simple. Nothing is ever a forgone conclusion in this game.

However, a Hold in Smyrna? Just…um, ok.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/145 "2005-12-14T21:02:11Z")

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Eek. Turkey holding Rum and Sev, with Bul unpreventably to come? Wow.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/146 "2005-12-15T16:51:55Z")

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German A bur retreats to gas.

Updated map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/147 "2005-12-20T16:55:11Z")

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So what’s the holdup, sport? Still in shock over the stabbiness?

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/148 "2005-12-20T17:28:05Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> So what’s the holdup, sport?

I suspect the guy’s got one of those fancy newfangled “lives” I’ve heard about.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/149 "2005-12-20T17:33:41Z")

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No fair! I canceled all social engagements and quit my job to devote myself wholly to this game! I expect no less from the rest of you!

…and someone help me get my job back after I get knocked out of the tourney, too?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/150 "2005-12-20T19:33:29Z")

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_hyperventilating_

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/151 "2005-12-20T20:19:36Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Retreats/Disbands:  
German F Sweden can retreat to Finland or Baltic Sea or Denmark or Skagerrak or OTB.

That is due by tomorrow morning or it defaults to OTB.

Builds/Disbands for Winter:  
England may build 1 unit. May build A or F in edi, lon or lvp.  
France may build 1 unit. May build A in par or A or F in bre or mar.  
Germany must remove 1 unit.  
Russia may build 2 units. May build A in mos or war or A or F in stp.

Schedule:  
Winter 1902 Orders due: Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9AM Eastern US Time  
Spring 1903 Orders due: Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1903 Orders due: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:  
Austria: F Aegean Sea Supports A Serbia - Greece (_Cut_)  
A Budapest - Serbia  
A Galicia - Rumania (_Fails_)  
A Serbia - Greece  
A Vienna - Budapest  
England: F Belgium - Holland  
F English Channel - Belgium (_Fails_)  
F North Sea Supports F Belgium - Holland  
A Norway Supports F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden  
France: A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Belgium  
A Marseilles - Spain  
A Paris - Picardy  
F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean  
Germany: F Berlin - Kiel  
A Gascony Hold  
A Munich Hold  
A Ruhr - Belgium  
F Sweden Hold (_Dislodged_)  
Italy: F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean  
A Piedmont Hold  
A Tuscany Hold  
F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyon  
Russia: F Black Sea Supports F Rumania - Bulgaria(ec) (_Cut_)  
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden  
F Rumania - Bulgaria(ec) (_Fails_)  
A Silesia - Berlin  
A Ukraine - Sevastopol  
Turkey: F Ankara - Black Sea (_Fails_)  
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople (_Cut_)  
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria  
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea (_Fails_)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/152 "2005-12-20T20:20:49Z")

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Map is at: [http://www.wooleysark.com/dip](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip)

Retreats/Disbands:  
English F Norway can retreat to Norwegian Sea or Barents Sea or OTB.

That’s due tomorrow morning or it goes OTB by default.

Builds/Disbands for Winter:  
Austria may build 1 unit. May build A in bud.  
England must remove 1 unit.  
France may build 1 unit. May build A or F in bre or mar.  
Russia may build 1 unit. May build A in war.  
Turkey may build 2 units. May build A or F in ank or smy.

Schedule:  
Winter 1902 Orders due: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9AM Eastern US Time  
Spring 1903 Orders due: Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time  
Fall 1903 Orders due: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9AM Eastern US Time

And the orders:  
Austria: A Bohemia - Tyrolia (_Fails_)  
A Greece Hold  
F Trieste Hold  
A Vienna Supports F Trieste  
England: A London Hold  
F North Sea - Denmark (_Fails_)  
F Norway - North Sea (_Dislodged_)  
F Skagerrak Supports F North Sea - Denmark  
France: F Belgium Hold  
A Marseilles - Burgundy  
A Paris Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy  
A Picardy Supports F Belgium  
A Spain - Portugal  
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Helgoland Bight (_Cut_)  
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Denmark  
A Holland Supports A Ruhr  
A Munich - Burgundy (_Fails_)  
A Ruhr Supports A Holland  
Italy: A Apulia - Albania  
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Albania  
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste (_Cut_)  
A Venice - Trieste (_Fails_)  
Russia: A Moscow - Sevastopol (_Fails_)  
A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway  
F Sweden - Norway  
A Ukraine - Rumania (_Fails_)  
Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc)  
F Black Sea - Constantinople  
A Rumania - Ukraine (_Fails_)  
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania - Ukraine (_Cut_)

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/153 "2005-12-20T20:24:40Z")

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Oh, France. Surrounded by a hostile Italy and a friendly England, you listen to Germany’s sweet-talk while he’s being dismembered by England and Russia? It’s unfortunate but the Franco-German alliance a very short-lived one.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/154 "2005-12-20T20:48:03Z")

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What the hell? A Russian-Austrian-Italian alliance against the poor little Ottoman Empire?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/155 "2005-12-20T21:14:20Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> What the hell? A Russian-Austrian-Italian alliance against the poor little Ottoman Empire?

They crave your ottomans. They have many comfy chairs but no comfy footrests.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/156 "2005-12-20T22:18:56Z")

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The Game 2 map still gives me a headache. So much unresolved conflict. So much stress.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/157 "2005-12-20T22:33:55Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> Oh, France. Surrounded by a hostile Italy and a friendly England, you listen to Germany’s sweet-talk while he’s being dismembered by England and Russia? It’s unfortunate but the Franco-German alliance a very short-lived one.

What did you expect after you made a grab for my **Brest**!

:eek:

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/158 "2005-12-20T22:36:58Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> What did you expect after you made a grab for my **Brest**!
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> :eek:

Did he make motorboat noises?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/159 "2005-12-20T22:40:24Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> The Game 2 map still gives me a headache. So much unresolved conflict. So much stress.

You can hear the _thud_ of all the bounces.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy-world-championship/330571/160 "2005-12-20T22:41:55Z")

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Then again Game 1 looks like a tie-dye, so I’m not sure that’s easier to cope with.

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