# SDMB Diplomacy **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 5, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964 "2009-07-05T09:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/181 "2009-07-26T13:47:19Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > About 9 1/2 hours left to get all the moves in. Did you get mine? ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/182 "2009-07-26T16:53:44Z")
> [@grimpixie](#): > > Did you get mine? Yes, I have received your orders. You have until the deadline if you wish to make any changes to them. Still missing two sets. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/183 "2009-07-27T05:49:45Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > Yes, I have received your orders. You have until the deadline if you wish to make any changes to them. > > Still missing two sets. Ok, moves received from all except one. Apologies for not updating last night, but I will be processing them this evening. PS: To the one person remaning, you have until about 7pm my time to get me something and thank the fact that Endless Ocean is addictive. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/184 "2009-07-27T18:53:18Z")
Ok processing moves now. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/185 "2009-07-27T19:49:55Z")
ITALIAN ARMY RELAXES IN MED. STOP. TURKEY IN TROUBLE IN BALKANS. STOP CONFUSION REIGNS SUPREME IN EUROPE. STOP. So here we are in [Autumn 1902](http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/ruaria/Diplomacy/1902_Autumn.jpg) **Final Order List** : **Austria** A Tri-Ven - OK A Vie [s] A Bud-Tri - OK A Bud-Tri - OK A Ser-Bul - BOUNCE F Gre [s] A Ser-Bul - OK **England** F Norway-Barents Sea - OK F Edi-Norwegian Sea - OK A London-Norway - BOUNCE F North Sea Convoy A London-Norway - OK **France** Fleet Bel - Hol - BOUNCE Army Pic - Bel - BOUNCE Army Bur - Ruh - BOUNCE Army Por hold - OK Army Mar - Bur - BOUNCE **Germany** A Mun - Bur - BOUNCE A Ruhr S A Hol - CUT A Hol S A Ruhr- CUT F Den - Nth - BOUNCE **Italy** NMR - :mad: **Russia** F Swe S Nor - Ska - VOID A StP - Nor - BOUNCE A Ukr - Rum - OK A Gal S Ukr - Rum - OK F Sev S Ukr - Rum - OK **Turkey** F. Bla S A. Rum - OK A. Rum S RUSSIAN A. Gal - Bud - VOID, DISLODGED A. Con S A. Bul - OK A. Bul S ITALIAN F. Ion - Gre - VOID F. Aeg S ITALIAN F. Ion - Gre - VOID Turkey: Rumania can retreat to Budapest **Deadline for Retreats is Wednesday 29th July at 20:00 GMT**. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/186 "2009-07-27T20:48:21Z")
Italy NMR :mad: Well, Tsar, in view of that fortuitously available retreat I am prepared to maintain the alliance. Given the developments in Scandinavia it’s my unbiased view that you’d be well advised to take it. I’m sorry if you thought I was being dilatory over Rumania but I did explain what was going on, and I’m not entirely happy - but I’m also willing to say “all’s well that ends well” and hope that Italy gets back to doing something effective. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/187 "2009-07-27T21:40:15Z")
I find myself in a bit of a bind. On one hand, I have managed to stalemate Germany rather nicely. On the other, I have an ally that to date has done nothing to assist me in dislodging the German from his grip on Hol or any other lands. I beg of you **England** , to come up with a plan that helps us both. All that his alliance has gained me so far is the enmity of Germany, and you the freedom to move without **German** interdiction. ---
**Author:** ![History\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b19c9b/32.png) [@History\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/History_Geek)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/188 "2009-07-27T21:46:29Z")
[Italy] @Turkey: Couriers with orders waylaid. Will be working to salvage position against Austria. Can we count on your continued support? [/Italy] Sorry about that. I was certain I had PM’d my moves. I suspect they were eaten by my iPhone. I’ll try to post orders from a more reliable connection in future. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/189 "2009-07-27T22:57:56Z")
> [@History\_Geek](#): > > [Italy] > > @Turkey: > Couriers with orders waylaid. Will be working to salvage position against Austria. Can we count on your continued support? > > [/Italy] > > Sorry about that. I was certain I had PM’d my moves. I suspect they were eaten by my iPhone. I’ll try to post orders from a more reliable connection in future. If it’s any consolation your lack of moves screwed me almost as bad as it screwed you. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/190 "2009-07-27T23:09:38Z")
By the way, anyone want to be friends? Turkey? You can see now that there isn’t enough meat on my bones for everyone to be happy. Russia’s gettin his, and next on his list is Budapest, so even though you lucked out into a retreat, it isn’t going to last. Italy? We can still be strong against Turkey together and you have little hope of progressing against me. Even if you get Ven. back I just retreat to Rome, and then retreat to Naples. It’s going to take you all three units an several years to repair this mistake. Russia? You see that I was pro-Russian before, and you can’t crack the Turk without my help. ---
**Author:** ![History\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b19c9b/32.png) [@History\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/History_Geek)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/191 "2009-07-28T00:02:15Z")
> [@treis](#): > > By the way, anyone want to be friends? > > Italy? We can still be strong against Turkey together and you have little hope of progressing against me. Even if you get Ven. back I just retreat to Rome, and then retreat to Naples. It’s going to take you all three units an several years to repair this mistake. This is true. If you were to return control of Venice to Italian hands I believe I could be induced to switch sides. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/192 "2009-07-28T01:27:52Z")
> [@Tristan](#): > > I find myself in a bit of a bind. > > On one hand, I have managed to stalemate Germany rather nicely. > > On the other, I have an ally that to date has done nothing to assist me in dislodging the German from his grip on Hol or any other lands. > > I beg of you **England** , to come up with a plan that helps us both. All that his alliance has gained me so far is the enmity of Germany, and you the freedom to move without **German** interdiction. I don’t see one mate-to even get one of us into position to get a center back from Germany next year, given Russia’s past and continued intransigence (he puts forth some bogus peace feelers, followed by some suggestions on future cooperation by me, followed by complete silence on his part, followed by a very schitzophrenic set of orders which simultaneously would have helped me and stabbed me-go figure that one out), would basically require me to correctly read Germany’s mind on each and every move, and somehow get Russia to stop humping my leg in the meanwhile. I felt my only mid-term chances at builds lie in Russia direction. And please re-read my long post from last week where I outlined the reasons for my Spring moves, where, if I had guessed correctly and/or Russia wasn’t being a royal pain in my patookis, we’d likely would have been sitting pretty after this past fall. I’ll still toss out the Triple Alliance as an option to seriously consider. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/193 "2009-07-28T01:30:56Z")
England to Austria: We appear to be co-belligerents. While we can’t cooperate directly at the moment, I just want to keep the channels open if such opportunities present themselves in the future. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/194 "2009-07-28T05:30:47Z")
A quick turn around on the Retreats and the countries bed in for Winter Here is the [latest map](http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/ruaria/Diplomacy/1902_Autumn_retreat.jpg) **BUILDS** France: Builds 1 unit Germany: Builds 1 unit Russia: Builds 1 unit **REMOVES** Italy: Removes 1 unit **Deadline for BUILDS/LOSSES is Wednesday 29th July at 20:00 GMT** ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/195 "2009-07-28T07:26:18Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > somehow get Russia to stop humping my leg in the meanwhile. @England 🙂 I’m truly sorry - I honestly thought we’d reached agreement on my supporting you into Denmark (via Ska) and “renting” Norway in the meantime until I could consolidate my position in the south… Given the aggression of your fleets, I fear our cooperation may be coming to an end? @Turkey All’s well that ends well 🙂 You can count on Galician support for any attack on Vienna. @Austria Bad luck!! Rest assured that you can count on Galician support for any attempt to regain Budapest. @Germany Build a fleet in Kiel this winter, and perhaps we can rock the Englishman back on his heels? I propose to build in Moscow as a sign of good faith in my lack of intent on the European mainland (and also in an attempt to shore up my northern defenses). [@Everyone](https://boards.straightdope.com/groups/everyone) Open press just adds whole new layers of fun - doesn’t it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/196 "2009-07-28T07:59:06Z")
> [@History\_Geek](#): > > Sorry about that. I was certain I had PM’d my moves. I suspect they were eaten by my iPhone. I’ll try to post orders from a more reliable connection in future. Can you check you have not run out of space for PMs. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/197 "2009-07-28T08:13:01Z")
@Russia: Stand by me and in due course you will have Budapest, and also my long-term friendship (which, in view of the troubled situation elsewhere, may be highly necessary). But I want to turn the screws in the Balkans first and I warn you that I will not forgive any further transgressions. We’ll go over the fine detail presently. @Italy: Don’t panic! You have a fox in your hen run now but as long as you are able to compensate with gains elsewhere, that one Austrian army can’t keep more than one centre from you, and you should be able to outpace him. I foresee a near future when there is an Austrian colony in Naples, the last encircled remnant of the Dual Monarchy. 🙂 Again, fine detail will follow. @GM: Perhaps an acknowledgement of orders received? I experienced some database problems but could see the PM in my Sent folder so assumed I was OK (as I was), but I could have been wrong knowing the board software’s propensity for screw-ups. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/198 "2009-07-28T08:34:08Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > @GM: Perhaps an acknowledgement of orders received? I experienced some database problems but could see the PM in my Sent folder so assumed I was OK (as I was), but I could have been wrong knowing the board software’s propensity for screw-ups. I did send a reminder PM asking for moves from **Italy**. If the players would like an acknowledgement, I can do so. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/199 "2009-07-28T09:42:55Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > I did send a reminder PM asking for moves from **Italy**. If the players would like an acknowledgement, I can do so. Okay, if the defaulter got sent a reminder but didn’t see it or act on it, fair enough; I’ll continue to assume that if the PM’s in my Sent folder then you’ve received it OK. (In case of dispute I can always cite it as evidence by linking to it.) ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/200 "2009-07-28T10:23:31Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > @Russia: Stand by me and in due course you will have Budapest, and also my long-term friendship (which, in view of the troubled situation elsewhere, may be highly necessary). But I want to turn the screws in the Balkans first and I warn you that I will not forgive any further transgressions. We’ll go over the fine detail presently. @Turkey A fleet in the Black Sea remains a test of our friendship. A sojourn in the Med may be called for - no? Fine detail awaited. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964.md?page=11)