# SDMB Diplomacy **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 5, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964 "2009-07-05T09:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/341 "2009-08-12T15:07:12Z")
Just sent out reminders to those who have not yet sent in moves. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/342 "2009-08-12T16:04:25Z")
Sent. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/343 "2009-08-12T16:46:04Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Sent. 🆒 Ibid ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/344 "2009-08-12T17:11:13Z")
We have a request for a 24 hour extension, so if I don’t get all the moves in by tonight, it will be extended through to tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/345 "2009-08-12T17:26:05Z")
I vote no extension. We’ve had three days plus a build and retreat phase. Shouldn’t be any reason for people to not have moves in. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/346 "2009-08-12T18:00:00Z")
> [@treis](#): > > I vote no extension. We’ve had three days plus a build and retreat phase. Shouldn’t be any reason for people to not have moves in. Although I agree that there is no real reason not to have moves in by this point, it’s not a voting matter. If a single extension is asked for, it will be granted. The chance of getting a further extension is very, very slim though as I would prefer to keep the game moving. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/347 "2009-08-12T19:19:40Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [Yeah, got a lot on my personal (non-'net) plate this week and had to get an early night’s sleep] > > I am admittedly worried about a move to the Irish Sea as well. I have come up with a set of moves which is almost perfectly safe, but of course very conservative. Conversely, I can say the hell with it and be completely aggressive, let my prospective net +1 builds solidify the home front, and let the chips fall where they may. > > Odd that **treis** has not chimed in and at least let you know what kind of support he can give you (Mun, Pie). I don’t think I need Austrian help at this point. The most help he can be is to take SCs from Russia. Since we’ve got an extension I suppose we should use it. What is your opinion on my proposal of supporting me into Belgium? Considering how little talk is going on in the thread it seems we are the only truly functioning alliance. I’m taking this as a good sign. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/348 "2009-08-13T00:28:31Z")
I’m perfectly okay with any plan which gets that fleet back onto water ASAP, so yeah sounds good to me. Do you have a problem with me playing it safe this turn, or would you rather I throw caution to the wind? [To put pressure on A Gas, among other things] ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/349 "2009-08-13T00:58:47Z")
Well, I suspect that your supporting me into Bel will allow the Holland fleet to head to Nth in the Fall. Additionally, you taking St. Pete’s with your Army this turn will free your Bar fleet to come West as well. As I’ve said all along, the sooner we get you around the horn towards the Med the better. Perhaps that’s instructive in your question about aggression. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/350 "2009-08-13T01:39:40Z")
Alrighty then. Unless you have some last minute thoughts (say before midnight) then we are agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/351 "2009-08-13T01:47:24Z")
Sounds good to me. Here’s to us guessing correct elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/352 "2009-08-13T18:51:39Z")
ENGLNAD INVADES RUSSIA. STOP. RUSSIA INVADES GERMANY. STOP. TURKEY INVADES ITALY. STOP. So, here we are in [Spring 1904](http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/ruaria/Diplomacy/1904_Spring.jpg) **Final Moves** **Austria:** A Rom-Tus - OK A Ven-Tri - BOUNCE A Vie [s] A Ven-Tri - OK A Tri-Ser - OK A Bud [s] A Tri-Ser - OK A Gal-Boh - OK **England:** F Holland SUPPORT A Ruhr-Belgium - OK A Norway-St. Pete - OK F Barent’s Sea SUPPORT A Norway-St. Pete - OK F North Atlantic Ocean-Mid Atlantic Ocean - OK F London-Wales - OK **France:** F Eng- Iri - OK A Bel - Hol - BOUNCE, DISLODGED A Bur supports A MAr - OK A Mar supports A Bur - OK A Gas supports A Bur - OK A Tus - Pie - OK **Germany:** A Pie - Tyr - OK A Ruhr - Bel - OK A Mun - Ruhr - OK F Swe - Bal - OK F Den - Kie - OK **Italy:** F Adr - Tri - BOUNCE F Alb S F Adr - Tri - OK **Russia:** A Rumania - Ukraine - BOUNCE F Sevastopol - Rumania - BOUNCE A Silesia - Berlin - OK A St Petersburg - Norway - BOUNCE, DISLODGED A Warsaw - Ukraine - BOUNCE **Turkey:** A. Gre - Nap - OK F. Ion C A. Gre - Nap - OK A. Bul - Gre - OK F. Bla - Bul (ec)\* - OK F. Con - Aeg - OK Please check to make sure you are happy with the moves. I require retreats from France: A BEL Russia: A STP \*\*DEADLINE FOR RETREATS IS FRIDAY 13TH AUGUST AT 20:00 GMT \*\* ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/353 "2009-08-13T19:16:05Z")
Malacandra- Can you support A Bud-Rum this turn, please? It looks like things are turning out swimmingly for us. Omniscient- Let me know if you want that army in Boh to do anything. Ideally I would like to see the army of yours in Tyr leave soon. I can deny it to France after this turn if you wish, or it can be returned to unoccupied territory. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/354 "2009-08-13T19:48:32Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Malacandra- Can you support A Bud-Rum this turn, please? It looks like things are turning out swimmingly for us. > > Omniscient- Let me know if you want that army in Boh to do anything. Ideally I would like to see the army of yours in Tyr leave soon. I can deny it to France after this turn if you wish, or it can be returned to unoccupied territory. I will have no issue leaving Tyr so long as I can count on you to stalemate France in Piedmont. **England** , these appear to have been a very successful round of moves. Your guesses on France’s tactics should pay dividends quickly. I suspect we’ll have him diminished by 2 units this coming Fall and you will gain 2. Russia hopefully will also be diminished by 2 units as well. We’ve done a fairly complete job of demilitarizing our borders as well. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/355 "2009-08-13T20:17:41Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I will have no issue leaving Tyr so long as I can count on you to stalemate France in Piedmont. Sounds good. It would be most convenient for me to occupy Tyr in the Fall. Probably best if you stay put until then. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/356 "2009-08-13T20:22:19Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > **England** , these appear to have been a very successful round of moves. Your guesses on France’s tactics should pay dividends quickly. I suspect we’ll have him diminished by 2 units this coming Fall and you will gain 2. Russia hopefully will also be diminished by 2 units as well. We’ve done a fairly complete job of demilitarizing our borders as well. He really screwed you by taking StP this turn. Russia can retreat to Fin and guarantee himself that he ends up with Ber or Swe. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/357 "2009-08-13T20:49:23Z")
> [@treis](#): > > He really screwed you by taking StP this turn. Russia can retreat to Fin and guarantee himself that he ends up with Ber or Swe. And ensure he loses both Moscow and St. Pete. I suppose he could fall on his sword in exchange for temporarily holding one of my SCs, but I’m not sure that’s a great long term strategy. I do have the luxury of being able to reclaim those territories at any point later. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/358 "2009-08-13T21:54:47Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Malacandra- Can you support A Bud-Rum this turn, please? It looks like things are turning out swimmingly for us. A pleasure. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/359 "2009-08-14T00:04:33Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > And ensure he loses both Moscow and St. Pete. I suppose he could fall on his sword in exchange for temporarily holding one of my SCs, but I’m not sure that’s a great long term strategy. I do have the luxury of being able to reclaim those territories at any point later. He can cover Moscow with War-Mos. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964/360 "2009-08-14T00:28:01Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I will have no issue leaving Tyr so long as I can count on you to stalemate France in Piedmont. > > **England** , these appear to have been a very successful round of moves. Your guesses on France’s tactics should pay dividends quickly. I suspect we’ll have him diminished by 2 units this coming Fall and you will gain 2. Russia hopefully will also be diminished by 2 units as well. We’ve done a fairly complete job of demilitarizing our borders as well. Yep-just promise me, in the alternate universe where he held and supported Bel in the Channel that you aren’t sore at me. 😛 Actually, I thought that he’d convoy Belgium to Wales actually, as that would really screw me next year, but the side effect was that Liverpool would be covered too if he didn’t. And, given all that other mischief involving the Russian, you also hereby have my permission to take back Holland now; I think you need to unit more than I do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-diplomacy/501964.md?page=19)