# SDMB Fantasy Baseball

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 26, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200 "2004-01-26T19:21:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/81 "2004-03-04T17:08:44Z")

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Sure, Pete. We’d love to have you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2004, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/82 "2004-03-05T04:27:10Z")

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What, exactly, is a keeper league?

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**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2004, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/83 "2004-03-05T04:30:21Z")

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You get to carry some players over from season to season. Usually from three to five.

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**Author:** ![terd\_ferguson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@terd\_ferguson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terd_ferguson)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2004, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/84 "2004-03-08T06:52:20Z")

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Does anyone still have any openings? I’d like to join another league. Post it here or shoot me an email at bkbernha at indiana.edu

I noticed nobody has started any head to head leagues. Would anyone here be interested in joining if one were started? I prefer rotisserie, but h2h leagues are fun sometimes, too. Although, every h2h league I have been in, I have been at or near first place for most of the season and my boys always end up slacking off during the playoffs. It’s kind of fitting though, because my favorite team is the braves.

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**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2004, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/85 "2004-03-08T07:06:25Z")

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We still have one opening in the Melting Pot AL-Only keeper league. See above for league number and password.

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**Author:** ![Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Petey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petey)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/86 "2004-03-08T18:54:35Z")

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My post didn’t seem to work so I’ll try again…

I joined the league as the Florida Isotopes. Florida in honor of the World Champion Marlins. I normally just do NL leagues, so I have an excuse if I don’t do well.

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**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/87 "2004-03-08T19:00:21Z")

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Glad to have you with us, Petey!

The Melting Pot league is FULL!

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/88 "2004-03-13T12:32:29Z")

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I have some concerns regarding the draft.

Namely, if I draft Shawn Green, whom Yahoo lists as a RF’er, will I be able to put him in his actual position (1st base)?  
During the draft, how much time there be in between picks? Will there be scoreboard or something showing who has been taken and who is still available?

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/89 "2004-03-13T12:46:16Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> I have some concerns regarding the draft.
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> Namely, if I draft Shawn Green, whom Yahoo lists as a RF’er, will I be able to put him in his actual position (1st base)?  
> During the draft, how much time there be in between picks? Will there be scoreboard or something showing who has been taken and who is still available?

I don’t know how to use this new quote system (and can’t be arsed) so this won’t look nice.

First off, Yahoo has historically used 15 games as their qualifier. In other words, once Green has appeared in 15 games at the 1B position he will become eligible to be played there on your squad. Eligibility lasts all year.

Second, you get 90 seconds per pick. The draft goes in a little java window that sucks for space allocation but takes very little time to get used to, and it will tell you who gets chosen with each pick. You will be drafting from a board that lists all players, with players already taken being grayed out.

In other news, I joined the league, must have been a while ago now. Are we seriously going with 17 teams? Insane. I need to go join some more pub leagues to get in some warm-up drafts.

**t\_f** , a friend of mine started a h2h league that he desperately needs to fill, but I think the draft is like this Sunday. I don’t think there are even enough teams to have a respectable league at this point, but I haven’t checked in a while. If you’re interested, email me asap.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/90 "2004-03-13T18:11:53Z")

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WL’s right again. Yahoo uses a 15-game eligibility standard for positions, so Green gains 1B-eligibility after 15 games. For new players, it uses something else - I believe it’s official team roster position. I could be wrong. Though, you’ll see utility players with massive amounts of position eligibility who haven’t played that many games at each position, so there’s something else factored in.

WL, e-mail’s away.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/91 "2004-03-13T18:23:14Z")

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Position eligibility is based on two things as far as I know:

1. What was the position eligibility of the player at the end of last year?
2. And as **WL** said, once a player has played in 15 games at the new position he will become eligible at that position.

Now I’m pretty sure that what constitutes a “game” is if that player is playing that position at all during a game. Say if the pitcher throws a ball and the player is walking around in the outfield and pulls his groin and has to be replaced? That still counts as a game.

I think that might expain **Munch’s** question

> [@](#):
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> Though, you’ll see utility players with massive amounts of position eligibility who haven’t played that many games at each position, so there’s something else factored in.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/92 "2004-03-13T20:39:00Z")

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Well, I locked up in Wilson’s league. Dunno who it picked, but I had sleepers at the top of my queueueueu that I wanted to wait on for the last round. Crap. Anyone else have problems?

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/93 "2004-03-13T22:44:00Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Well, I locked up in Wilson’s league. Dunno who it picked, but I had sleepers at the top of my queueueueu that I wanted to wait on for the last round. Crap. Anyone else have problems?

It’s actually **dantheman** ’s league, but I’m in it. I got knocked out twice during the draft as well.

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**Author:** ![hightechburrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f6c823/32.png) [@hightechburrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hightechburrito)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/94 "2004-03-14T01:23:08Z")

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I’m in. My team is the High Tech Burritos (duh). Can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/95 "2004-03-14T03:44:01Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> Position eligibility is based on two things as far as I know:  
> I think that might expain **Munch’s** question

**Munch** was talking more about players that hadn’t played before or weren’t necessarily eligible by other standards being listed at multiple positions.

That’s a good point about eligibility carrying over, though. A player who played in prior seasons is eligible at any position he appeared at more than 15 times in the previous season, and becomes eligible for new positions by appearing at a new position 15 times in the current season.

Like Albert Pujols. He’s no longer eligible at 3B because he didn’t play at least 15 games there in 2003.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/96 "2004-03-22T19:21:52Z")

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Alright, I have a dilemma. In the league I mentioned earlier, I ran some numbers. Starting pitching is virtually worthless (all the points come from IP, everything else is a virtual wash). However, I don’t think anyone else knows that. Relief is a goldmine - saves are bread and butter.

So I’m saving Helton, Vlad and Foulke. But someone just offered Gagne for Vlad to me - and the draft is tomorrow. He isn’t holding onto Gagne, and I draft 5th - so there’s a chance he could drop to me. So, my question is:

What sort of numbers does everyone predict for Vlad?

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**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/97 "2004-03-23T02:23:16Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Alright, I have a dilemma. In the league I mentioned earlier, I ran some numbers. Starting pitching is virtually worthless (all the points come from IP, everything else is a virtual wash). However, I don’t think anyone else knows that. Relief is a goldmine - saves are bread and butter.
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> So I’m saving Helton, Vlad and Foulke. But someone just offered Gagne for Vlad to me - and the draft is tomorrow. He isn’t holding onto Gagne, and I draft 5th - so there’s a chance he could drop to me. So, my question is:
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> What sort of numbers does everyone predict for Vlad?

I don’t know about predicting numbers for Vlad, but in your shoes I think I’d hold onto him rather that deal him for Gagne. Despite his injury history, he seems likelier to play to his previous form than Gagne is (but I said more or less the same thing before last year).

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/98 "2004-03-23T02:36:31Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> WL’s right again. Yahoo uses a 15-game eligibility standard for positions, so Green gains 1B-eligibility after 15 games. For new players, it uses something else - I believe it’s official team roster position. I could be wrong. Though, you’ll see utility players with massive amounts of position eligibility who haven’t played that many games at each position, so there’s something else factored in.

I think I can explain that last bit- if somebody hasn’t played 15 games they’ll be eligible at whatever they played, because they’ve got to be eligible at something. So if, I dunno, Joe McEwing played 9 games at second, 12 in the outfield, four at third, and one at first, he’d be eligible at all those positions. If he had played 15 or more at one position and the same number of games at the other ones, he’d be eligible at that one position only. Wild.

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**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/99 "2004-03-25T17:18:08Z")

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Just wanted to bump this as a reminder that the draft is tonight at 8:45 EST. Good luck to everyone!

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**Author:** ![Fatwater\_Fewl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4491bb/32.png) [@Fatwater\_Fewl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fatwater_Fewl)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-baseball/226200/100 "2004-03-26T08:05:11Z")

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Sorry, **Munch** , I took a little break from posting there. Plus, I somehow managed to get myself into 8 leagues when I had great intentions of keeping it down to a relatively sane 4 this year. Ah well. Seems you got the league filled up anyway. Good luck to you all. Hope the draft went well.

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