# SDMB Fantasy Football big league (league full) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 26, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313 "2009-07-26T11:10:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/221 "2009-10-01T13:58:12Z")
Here are our standings so far, ordered by points scored (format is actual rank, record, points scored, sorted by points scored). 1. Team Ed Gruberman 2-1 381.42 2. Frosted\_Lightning 1-2 348.75 3. Donte’s Torino 2-1 333.80 4. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 1-2 332.12 5. Fightin’ Quakers 2-1 330.51 6. Exploding Pancakes 1-2 317.60 7. Unrelated Siblings 2-1 307.06 8. No Use For A Name II 3-0 303.02 9. Court Jesters 2-1 302.40 10. Kid\_A 2-1 299.25 11. Quentin’s JAMmers 1-2 294.89 12. Curry Porkrinds 2-1 291.33 13. Phoenix Redbirds 1-2 281.09 14. Stinkers 1-2 275.55 15. Cobra Kai 2-1 268.61 16. We Do HGH 2-1 266.84 17. Antonican Druids 1-2 265.54 18. Scissor Me Timbers 1-2 246.21 19. Master Baiters 0-3 216.04 Those are some wacky numbers so far. Players with actual ranked 11 (Frosted Lightning), 12 (Varlos), and me 13 (Me) due to our 1-2 record have a higher score than the top 4 actual ranked players with one exception (2 above 13). ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/222 "2009-10-01T14:33:52Z")
I just wanted to point out that our division (Jules JAMmed out of playoffs) is kicking ass. Only one loss outside of the division so far. We’re all very disappointed in **SenorBeef**. Jules JAMmed out of playoffs: 4-1 (0.800) Division 3: 5-4 (0.556) Too many Giants fans: 2-3 (0.400) Division 2: 3-6 (0.333) ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/223 "2009-10-01T14:49:37Z")
I just want to say that once Bowe and Welker get back to normal, you’re all going down. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/224 "2009-10-01T15:16:42Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Trade to announce: > > Court Jesters gives up Derek Anderson to Exploding Pancakes for Chris Henry (CIN). Autodraft destroyed my already slim chances, so because of my need for a WR and my lack of anything to offer, I’m hoping Henry gets some looks. If Thigpen hadn’t been shipped to MIA and be likely to start, no way I make this trade. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/225 "2009-10-01T15:19:16Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Here are our standings so far, ordered by points scored (format is actual rank, record, points scored, sorted by points scored). Forgotten again. Although, since my Gusterrhoids are currently ranked #19, maybe I should be forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/226 "2009-10-01T15:26:43Z")
> [@Kid\_A](#): > > I just wanted to point out that our division (Jules JAMmed out of playoffs) is kicking ass. Yeah, I picked people from the all-pro league so I expected the lineup to be tough. Handicapped myself, but oh well, I like the challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/227 "2009-10-02T06:12:18Z")
I am an idiot. I have no idea what these numbers mean. As far as placement, I’m fifth. (307.06) For score, I’m third. (2-1) Could somebody please explain this to me? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/228 "2009-10-02T06:35:10Z")
The actual league ranking looks at record first, and then score second. For instance, you have 4 players. Player A has a 3-1 record and 500 points Player B has a 2-2 record and 400 points Player C has a 2-2 record and 300 points Player D has a 1-3 record and 350 points The actual rankings in this league are are as they appear, with A being first and D being last. Even though D has scored 350 points, which is more than C, because of the way the head to head matchups worked out, he lost 3 games, and therefore is ranked 4th. SInce B and C are tied at 2-2, then their total points scored becomes the tiebreaker, hence why B is ranked ahead of C. I posted our scores in order of points scored just because it’s an interesting way to look at things… it would be how we were ranked if we were in a pure points league. It’s not actually meaningful - the ranking numbers are the official ranking - but it’s interesting to see what the numbers are. What it means is that if someone is high on that table, but with a low number, then the scheduling has been unfavorable to them - they’ve scored a lot of points, but won few games. And vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/229 "2009-10-02T18:07:13Z")
Do you know why I (Donte’s Torino) is ranked below Unrelated Siblings, despite having the same record and more points? The only thing I can come up with is Unrelated Sibling has a better divisional record. However, I am ranked above We Do HGH, who has the same record, and has a better divisional record as well. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/230 "2009-10-03T00:52:38Z")
I can’t make sense of that one either. I can only guess it takes a certain criteria to determine who is the division winner (or in this case leading the division), and then applies a different formula to ranking non-division winners. It’s convoluted, but I can’t figure out anything else. IE maybe the logic is "ok, we need a division winner. There are 3 people with 2-1. Okay, there are 2 people with 1-0 division records. Ok, Unrelated Siblings one has the most points. Okay, now let’s rank everyone else. Ok, Donte’s Torino and We Do HGH both have a 2-1 record, but Donte’s has more points, so he gets ranked 2nd). So the division winner determination would use divisional record, while it wouldn’t for non-division-winner ranking. But then again… they could do that a lot more clearly by having the ranking numbers determined by one method, and then just ranking the divisions in a way that can differ from that. Convoluted either way. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/231 "2009-10-03T04:31:44Z")
\*\*[Taxi Driver Deniro] You talkin’ to me? Are \*YOU _talkin’ to me? [/Deniro] I have a tendency to be a stastical anomoly. Lots of things just happen like that._ If the divisional standings are a factor, does that mean we need to have some kind of half-assed BCS ranking system in place? (kidding!) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/232 "2009-10-03T04:37:48Z")
My understanding is that the division winners go to the playoffs, which is 4 of 8 seeds. And then the other 4 seeds go to the highest ranking teams who aren’t division winners (wildcards), similar to the NFL playoff system. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/233 "2009-10-04T08:08:41Z")
Trade to announce: Gusterrhoids gives up Terrel Owens and Master Baiters gives up Shaun Hill. The trade looks imbalanced at first glance, but in our league QBs are rare and precious commodities and Gusterrhoids doesn’t have one starting this week so it makes sense. I assume you guys intend for this trade to go through before gameday tomorrow, right? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/234 "2009-10-04T08:10:28Z")
Sure. The Yahoo thing said it wouldn’t go through until next week, but i’m happy for it to take effect immediately, if that’s within the rules. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/235 "2009-10-04T08:13:49Z")
I have it set up so that the commisioner approves trades, rather than a 2 day waiting period that can be vetoed by majority vote. So I can push it through quickly. I try to leave a period open where people can voice their objections if they feel the trade is unbalanced or league damaging somehow, but if it seems fine and it’s time sensitive I can go ahead and approve it now. Does Justin Bailey also want it to go through now? I don’t want to catch anyone by surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/236 "2009-10-04T08:15:54Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I assume you guys intend for this trade to go through before gameday tomorrow, right? Yes please. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/237 "2009-10-04T08:17:30Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Does Justin Bailey also want it to go through now? I don’t want to catch anyone by surprise. Not sure. I assume he probably does, considering he doesn’t have a starting QB this week, but it might be worth waiting to hear from him. ETA: Well, he beat me to it. There’s your answer. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/238 "2009-10-04T08:31:58Z")
Reminder. Teams with empty/bye/injured players that need to be adjusted: Curry Porkrinds, Fightin’ Quakers, Cobra Kai, Court Jesters, Phoenix Redbirds ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/239 "2009-10-05T22:19:38Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I can’t make sense of that one either. I can only guess it takes a certain criteria to determine who is the division winner (or in this case leading the division), and then applies a different formula to ranking non-division winners. It’s convoluted, but I can’t figure out anything else. That’s a pretty good guess. Better than my “maybe a divisional win is worth X points in tiebreakers.” ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/240 "2009-10-05T23:59:34Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Reminder. Teams with empty/bye/injured players that need to be adjusted: Curry Porkrinds, Fightin’ Quakers, Cobra Kai, Court Jesters, Phoenix Redbirds LOL, I knew I had one bad week going into the season with all the Cardinals I took. Still, having injured players on top of it didn’t help at all. Still, even if I would have played my optimal lineup, I still would have lost this week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313.md?page=13)