# SDMB Fantasy Football big league (league full)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313 "2009-07-26T11:10:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/381 "2009-12-01T20:37:01Z")

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Wow, we could be #1 and #2 in score and both miss the 8 man playoffs if we play this right. Whee.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/382 "2009-12-02T02:44:10Z")

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Through 12 Weeks

```auto

Average Opponent Score:
Exploding Pancakes 110.82
Cobra Kai 104.88
Phoenix Redbirds 103.42
Varlos' Zzzzzzzz 101.05
Team Ed Gruberman 99.61
The Gusterrhoids 98.47
Court Jesters 98.41
Master Baiters 98.21
Unrelated Siblings 97.81
Fightin' Quakers 97.80
No Use For a Name II 97.10
Kid_A 96.56
We Do HGH 95.09
Frosted Lightning 93.61
Stinkers 91.04
Antonican Druids 90.60
Scissor Me Timbers 88.26
Curry Porkrinds 87.10
Donte's Torino 84.37
Quentin's JAMmers 82.45

Average Score
Scissor Me Timbers 108.52
Team Ed Gruberman 107.79
Exploding Pancakes 106.10
Frosted Lightning 105.51
Fightin' Quakers 102.78
Donte's Torino 101.72
We Do HGH 98.68
Varlos' Zzzzzzzz 98.37
Phoenix Redbirds 96.32
No Use For a Name II 95.31
Antonican Druids 95.04
Curry Porkrinds 94.60
Unrelated Siblings 91.35
Kid_A 91.34
Cobra Kai 90.29
Stinkers 89.71
Quentin's JAMmers 89.11
Master Baiters 88.99
The Gusterrhoids 87.97
Court Jesters 77.17

Avg Minus OppAvg
Scissor Me Timbers 20.26
Donte's Torino 17.35
Frosted Lightning 11.90
Team Ed Gruberman 8.18
Curry Porkrinds 7.49
Quentin's JAMmers 6.66
Fightin' Quakers 4.98
Antonican Druids 4.45
We Do HGH 3.58
Stinkers -1.33
No Use For a Name II -1.79
Varlos' Zzzzzzzz -2.68
Exploding Pancakes -4.71
Kid_A -5.23
Unrelated Siblings -6.46
Phoenix Redbirds -7.11
Master Baiters -9.23
The Gusterrhoids -10.50
Cobra Kai -14.58
Court Jesters -21.24

```

(How about next year everyone has the same length name? 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/383 "2009-12-02T02:55:13Z")

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I thought you had made a mistake and put Cobra Kai on the wrong place on the points against list, since he has a great record yet is 15th in scoring.

But no, you’re right.

He’s had 1258 points scored against him, and only scored 1083 himself, but got an 8-4 record in the process. Crazy.

His 8 wins have the following win margin:

1: 6.54  
3: 1.71  
5: 1.25  
6: 0.57  
7: 0.49  
8: 10.73  
10: 7.65  
12: 5.77

Average winning margin of 4.3 points. And in his average game he got outscored by 15 points. But an 8-4 record. That is some crazy luck.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/384 "2009-12-04T16:20:14Z")

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Is it shady to play no DEF/ST in a league like this? I have Washington against NO and I can just smell negative points from Washington this week.

I would usually pick up a defense off the wire but with only Oakland, Cleveland, KC, etc. available I don’t really have many options.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/385 "2009-12-04T17:00:41Z")

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> [@Stringer](#):
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> Is it shady to play no DEF/ST in a league like this?

I’d do it. You picked up that defense because you had a reasonable expectation to get points out of them. They’ve been pretty disappointing - but they’re playing the top offense in the NFL, a team that has hung quite a few negative totals on other defenses in this league.

If I was at home, I’d try to pull the data for what offenses are giving up the most points to our fantasy defenses in this league. I’d think that any defense going up against NO wouldn’t fare well.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/386 "2009-12-04T19:55:05Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Also, both We Do HGH and the Antonican Druids have a chance to beat out Donte’s Torino to win their division if he loses and they win and outscore him by 36.44 or 80.07 points, respectively.

Not so, I have a better divisional record than them, which I believe is the tie breaker for the division.

[QUOTE=Stringer]  
Is it shady to play no DEF/ST in a league like this? I have Washington against NO and I can just smell negative points from Washington this week.

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I did the same thing week 8, with Atl vs NO. Atl somehow got 10 points.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/387 "2009-12-04T21:31:42Z")

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> [@Taber](#):
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> Not so, I have a better divisional record than them, which I believe is the tie breaker for the division.

Ah, indeed. Too bad we didn’t set up a custom schedule to make sure everyone plays the same amount of divisional games. My division will have everyone playing 3 divisional games rather than all 4 other teams.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/388 "2009-12-04T22:39:56Z")

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Thanks guys, just making sure it wouldn’t piss off the league to play a blank.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/389 "2009-12-07T05:05:16Z")

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Well, I did it. At the conclusion of the regular season, I have the highest score in the league.

… not even close to a playoff slot.

Have fun!

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/390 "2009-12-07T05:11:33Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Well, I did it. At the conclusion of the regular season, I have the highest score in the league.
> 
> … not even close to a playoff slot.
> 
> Have fun!

That’s pretty amazing actually.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/391 "2009-12-07T06:53:22Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Well, I did it. At the conclusion of the regular season, I have the highest score in the league.
> 
> … not even close to a playoff slot.

Karma? For the bastardy naming of the division?  
Well, it would have been karma had I gotten into the playoffs, but tie breakers will be my end. I’m strangely satisfied with 7-6 though, given that my second round pick was hurt for the last four and a half games, my third round pick lost his job, and my fifth round pick went on IR three weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/392 "2009-12-07T14:28:14Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
>
> Well, I did it. At the conclusion of the regular season, I have the highest score in the league.
> 
> … not even close to a playoff slot.
> 
> Have fun!

Ha. In my money league, the highest scorer will be finishing LAST.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/393 "2009-12-08T10:57:05Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Karma? For the bastardy naming of the division?

The universe intervening supernaturally into reality to alter the outcome of football games in order to affect one particular fantasy football league out of millions in order to punish someone from a friendly taunt directed at his primary competitor is definitely the most reasonable explanation here.

We have our playoffs:

1. Scissor Me Timbers
2. Donte’s Torino
3. Frosted\_Lightning
4. Cobra Kai
5. We Do HGH
6. Fightin’ Quakers
7. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz
8. No Use For A Name II  
Our final regular season standings sorted by score list:

1. Exploding Pancakes 5-8 1409.90
2. Team Ed Gruberman 6-7 1399.29  
\*1. Scissor Me Timbers 9-4 1394.80  
\*6. Fightin’ Quakers 7-6 1367.52  
\*3. Frosted\_Lightning 8-5 1363.44  
\*2. Donte’s Torino 9-4 1356.65
3. Phoenix Redbirds 5-8 1286.87  
\*5. We Do HGH 8-5 1285.13  
\*7. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 7-6 1285.26  
\*8. No Use For A Name II 7-6 1246.286
4. Curry Porkrinds 7-6 1244.87
5. Antonican Druids 7-6 1208.37
6. Kid\_A 6-7 1197.51  
\*4. Cobra Kai 8-5 1187.89
7. Quentin’s JAMmers 7-6 1176.08
8. Unrelated Siblings 6-7 1169.90
9. Master Baiters 5-8 1158.94
10. The Gusterrhoids 4-9 1138.89
11. Stinkers 5-8 1137.75
12. Court Jesters 4-9 992.93

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/394 "2009-12-08T18:53:06Z")

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I fell 4 spots and out of the playoffs in the final week ☹

This is over now, right? I don’t get to play anymore this year? Bummer. Had fun doing it though. Save me a spot for next year.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/395 "2009-12-08T18:59:31Z")

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Wow, the two top point-scorers both missed the playoffs.

I ended up 17th in points scored, and 17th in the standings. Not exactly great, but better than i might have expected after starting 1-6. I’ve never played in a league this big before, and i think i now have a better sense of how to draft for a league like this. I’m looking forward to next year.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/396 "2009-12-08T20:11:44Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Average winning margin of 4.3 points. And in his average game he got outscored by 15 points. But an 8-4 record. That is some crazy luck.

Luck schmuck. My boys just play for the win, and know when to quit.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/397 "2009-12-08T20:36:35Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I fell 4 spots and out of the playoffs in the final week ☹
> 
> This is over now, right? I don’t get to play anymore this year? Bummer. Had fun doing it though. Save me a spot for next year.

You mean other than teams 9-16 making the consolation round?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/398 "2009-12-08T20:44:17Z")

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I don’t think that’s how it works - I think the consolation round is for the teams that lose this week.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/399 "2009-12-08T20:52:48Z")

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I kinda wish there was a secondary consolation bracket just to keep things more interesting for the non-playoff teams.

Oh well, I guess to be entertained at this point in the year, you have to earn your way into the playoffs. Say, by leading the league in scoring. WAIT!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-big-league-league-full/504313/400 "2009-12-08T21:20:21Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I don’t think that’s how it works - I think the consolation round is for the teams that lose this week.

Huh - I guess with an 8 team playoffs, that is how it works.

I’d like my chances in the playoffs a lot better if I hadn’t lost my 3rd and 4th round picks mid-season. I get Bowe back in two weeks, but I’d much rather have Washington on my roster.

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