# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 13 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [July 21, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931 "2021-07-21T01:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/702 "2021-10-29T05:52:25Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > I see it providing a disincentive for more trades being processed, not an incentive to encourage trading. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I know I wouldn’t bother taking the time to scour rosters and send out trade proposals if I know I can sit back, do no work, and just overbid on everyone else’s work. It’s only a disincentive if there’s a sizable number of people doing the work you describe. Today, it seems pretty much you’re the only one putting in that work. Were I in your shoes I’d be pretty against the proposal too, since you’re being handsomely rewarded for the extra effort. But as far as everyone else goes, the number if trade proposals is close to zero so I’m not sure you can further disincentive things from there. > [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > It also encourages defensive trading, say by overbidding to prevent anyone in your division from trading to improve, which is a silly and weird concept. I think this is a pretty absurd hypothetical. If your division rivals are overbidding to block your trades that basically means they are taking a net loss and making their teams worse. This should be catnip for you. What I think you’re actually worried about is your division rivals watching your action and driving up the price to something closer to equitable. > [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Finally, and most importantly, it frankly would not be possible to implement this suggestion with our draft rules, and would make trading of picks during the draft all but impossible. We have trouble hitting our deadlines lately as it is, and elongating the draft to accommodate this review window on every single trade is an unnecessary complication. Again, this does not seem to me to encourage more trading. We could suspend the rule easily enough mid-draft. But with everyone monitoring the thread during that time a short window like 6 hours (which is less time than we wait between picks before skipping someone) wouldn’t be especially disruptive. Overall, I don’t buy the argument that more open discussion about available players and proposed trade offers would discourage trades. In fact I think the general silence on the topic is what actually causes our league to be so trade averse in general. Certainly you’re the outlier here, so I understand where your POV on this is different. Honestly, I don’t think enforcing a rule like this should be necessary. I think it’s in everyone’s best interest to contribute to these threads more during the season and to talk more openly about players you want or players you’re shopping. It wouldn’t take any rule changes for most of the league to simply develop a habit of floating trade rumors before accepting anything. You’ll almost certainly get more for your buck if you do. It’s what NFL GMs do when the leak rumors to the press after all. Trades being some cloak and dagger exercise is far from the norm IRL and in most other fantasy leagues. ---
**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/703 "2021-10-29T15:00:56Z")
I think that’s a really cool idea. Trading, I think, is my favorite part of fantasy. The haggling, crunching the numbers, examining the angles, and ultimately weighing reason versus passion and making a call. Anything that enhances the activity is aces in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Overly\_Sentimental](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/overly_sentimental/32/4454_2.png) [@Overly\_Sentimental](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Overly_Sentimental)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/704 "2021-10-29T15:04:24Z")
And yeah, I was pretty bummed that I dropped Randall Cobb early this year. An inauspicious beginning to my Rodgers era. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/705 "2021-10-29T18:27:05Z")
I like the idea, but since it’s the middle of the season and it is a clear change from the existing rules, I think there should have to be a two-thirds majority of votes in favor to change the rule. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/706 "2021-10-30T20:03:58Z")
Ugh, Dak is going to be a game time decision for a Sunday night game. I guess I have to start Taylor Heinicke rather than risk it, at least Washington is a 4 PM ET game so maybe they’ll be an early leak about Dak. ---
**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/707 "2021-10-30T23:10:17Z")
I don’t like in-season rule changes. Revisiting the trade rules in the off-season is fine, and I’m not convinced either way on what side I would take regarding posting the trades. But again, vote shouldn’t occur until the end of the season. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/708 "2021-10-30T23:10:54Z")
Sure, we can have that discussion in the offseason. I just wanted to mention the idea while it was on my mind and see what people thought about it. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/709 "2021-10-30T23:28:42Z")
That sucks, dale. Hate it when a game time decision starts after your second choice has already played. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/710 "2021-10-31T16:38:52Z")
Austin Ekeler is tarting himself in his fantasy league, so I’m hoping that’s a good sign . ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/711 "2021-10-31T17:41:49Z")
I was out very late last night and just realized Calvin Ridley is out with another ‘personal issue. What the hell is going on? At least it was announced way in advance for the London game two weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/712 "2021-10-31T20:31:24Z")
Josh Allen, most rushing TDs in a QB’s first 50 games, very nice. Deebo Samuel, you are still a treasure with another 171 yards. Kyle Pitts, very disappointed you gave me nothing after 163 last week. Allen Robinson, it’s time for a prison break. OBJ… I really hope they trade you to a team that you might, somehow, decide to be good again for, but most likely I will end up wasting a roster slot on you for another year until I cut you when you suck on your new team. Close game with Omni, who would’ve thought that Justin Fields could score in the 20s? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/713 "2021-10-31T22:57:38Z")
Dak Prescott is out for tonight so I made the right choice by starting Heinicke. Even with the goose egg from Calvin Ridley, Yahoo still says I’ve got a 71% of getting a badly needed win. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/714 "2021-11-01T03:47:34Z")
I don’t know why, but yahoo consistently massively overrates the possibility of a player ending with a negative score in its win predictions. I have a 5 point lead on Omni with Damien Williams still to play. What are the odds that Damien Williams ends up with -5 points? Almost none, well under 1%. But yahoo gives Omni a 5% chance to win even though Willams having a massive negative score is his only chance. I faced the same situation either last week or a couple of weeks ago. I’m not sure what makes it do this when the chance to win mechanism otherwise generally makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/715 "2021-11-01T04:34:30Z")
So I win this week with 75.60 points, that’s got to be among the lowest winning point totals for a winning team in this league. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/716 "2021-11-01T13:53:57Z")
Very likely. I haven’t gone through all the years yet, but in 2018 Petey beat you 76.93 - 56.90, so you just squeaked in with the record unless there’s another lower one out there. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/717 "2021-11-01T17:32:15Z")
OK, I can’t promise I didn’t miss one, but I checked back through all the seasons. A few others beat out your 75.60, but you do hold the record after winning with a ridiculous 63.97 in 2011: Dale vs RetroVertigo (2011): [63.97 - 55.40](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2011/f1/44622/matchup?week=8&mid1=8&mid2=4) RetroVertigo vs Dale (2010): [70.45 - 63.75](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2010/f1/20654/matchup?week=4&mid1=12&mid2=4) Beef vs RetroVertigo (2017): [70.70 - 66.31](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2017/f1/76821/matchup?week=9&mid1=3&mid2=10) Hamlet vs Petey (2017): [72.91 - 66.88](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2017/f1/76821/matchup?week=3&mid1=2&mid2=6) Ellis vs Dale (2013): [74.32 - 62.90](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2013/f1/73292/matchup?week=7&mid1=3&mid2=7) Dale vs Overly (2021): [75.60 - 74.00](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/130426/matchup?week=8&mid1=12&mid2=10) Petey vs Dale (2018): [76.93 - 56.90](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2018/f1/1267223/matchup?week=14&mid1=7&mid2=10) Varlos vs Ellis (2013): [78.00 - 67.49](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2013/f1/73292/matchup?week=14&mid1=1&mid2=3) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/718 "2021-11-01T21:46:11Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Dale vs RetroVertigo (2011): [63.97 - 55.40](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2011/f1/44622/matchup?week=8&mid1=8&mid2=4) This was a weird one since my opponent must have forgot to set their lineup, two bye week players and one guy got a zero. And wow, looking at those names definitely reminded me it’s the Not For Long league. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/719 "2021-11-01T21:49:05Z")
That was such a lucky win, Dale, since you were the 11th worst score this week and played the only person you could beat. RNATB won and I won too. It’s a tough race for the sunbelt division. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/720 "2021-11-01T22:19:35Z")
Denver has actually been the #4 defense this year (despite being awful the only time I saw them, last week) but traded away Von Miller today and I can’t imagine that’s good for their D/ST scoring. Dallas has been surprisingly good at fantasy scoring too, as the 10th DST, even though they seem like they give up a ton of points. I looked and I guess they’re actually average on points given up. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/721 "2021-11-02T01:28:02Z")
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