# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 13

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [July 21, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931 "2021-07-21T01:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/61 "2021-08-17T17:21:48Z")

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Actually I have a rules question: I seem to recall us ending IR draft picks, correct? So I don’t get a draft pick for Cam Akers, who tore his Achilles last month and will miss the whole year?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/62 "2021-08-17T17:41:57Z")

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FWIW, I thought “PeteyPart2” was hilarious, although you could have had RyPetey and scored a 10 with your first post. Anyway, welcome to the league!

I don’t see where anyone mentioned it but the league bylaws require you to trade me your first-round pick for my fourth-rounder. Just trust me on this.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/63 "2021-08-17T18:44:17Z")

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Right, IR Picks went away (they may have been just a one season experiment, but I can’t remember).

So you won’t get an extra pick, but since the IR Picks were at the end, putting Akers on IR instantly after the draft and then picking up somebody off waivers is functionally identical.

Also, welcome to PeteyPart2!

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**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/64 "2021-08-17T19:00:43Z")

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I have been convinced. PeteyPart2 shall remain!

Will the commish please send me a league invite to ~~Email address removed~~? I would like to peruse everyone’s rosters in order to make some trade offers that look great for me initially and then end up being truly terrible for my team.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/65 "2021-08-17T19:18:33Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> It is strongly encouraged / possibly required that all trades leave everyone with 25 roster spots in all years. So no trading one guy for two, as then you can’t fit everyone and they’re one short. In this context, a draft pick (for this year) is the same as a player. So a player for a pick is fine. You’ll frequently see larger trades that include “and my last pick” as a way to keep things balanced.

We made this a requirement, but during the draft only. It isn’t possible for us to complete the draft and finalize rosters unless everyone finishes the draft with 25 players, so there has to be an equal number of picks/players in every trade during the draft. During the season, Yahoo allows lopsided trades where an owner can drop someone to make room, as normal. Great reminder, though, thanks!

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> One quick note: Be careful of trading late-round future picks, because once next year comes you might not end up wanting to cut that many guys.

This is also a really important reminder. You are required to make enough cuts to satisfy your trade requirements from the previous season. So, if you trade a 2022 third round pick during this coming draft, you are required to cut enough players next draft to get to 3 picks.

This gets tricky using a “last pick” clause, too. Say I trade my 1st to you this year for a 3rd, in exchange for your 1st for my last pick next year. Next year rolls around, and I only have one player I can cut, then I essentially made my “last pick” my first rounder. I try to remind people each year about these little technicalities so that no one is surprised by them, but trading next year’s picks is playing with fire. Which I love to do, apparently.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/66 "2021-08-17T19:22:01Z")

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I actually tried to send you an owner transfer invite last night to that address which Jules gave me - I just tried again now. Are you not receiving those invites? If not, I’ll probably have to delete the team and then send you a normal invite.

Btw, I would suggest not posting your e-mail openly on a forum like that, because web crawling bots will pick it up and send you spam. I reported it for a moderator to edit out the e-mail address to avoid that. You can send private messages to people on the boards by clicking on your avatar on the top right, and then double clicking the messages icon. This is also a good way to send trade offers instead of yahoo since you can include messages/discussion with it.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/67 "2021-08-17T19:34:11Z")

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To explain the draft pick thing a little better: on draft day, however many players on your roster you have under 25 is how many draft picks you get. The goal is to get your team back up to 25. Players with the IR tag, put in the IR position on yahoo, do not count against that 25, so you can actually finish the season with more than 25 people on your roster.

So, let’s say you have 2 players on IR at the end of the year. Now you have 27 players on your roster. If you want 3 draft picks (rounds 1, 2, and 3) you’d need to cut 5 players to get down to 22 players, and then 22 players + 3 draft picks = 25.

Now, to explain the pick swap thing. Let’s say that owner A and owner B both have 3 draft picks, and therefore 22 players on their roster. They both have a first, second, and third round pick.

Owner A decides to trade his late round first and second round pick to owner B for owner B’s early first round pick. Owner A has given 2 picks and received one back, which means that while they both have 22 players on their roster, owner B now has 4 draft picks and owner A only has 2. So B has 22+4 and A has 22+2. Owner B cannot end up with 26 players because the rosters fill at 25, and yahoo won’t let us end the draft if Owner A only has 24 players out of the required 25.

Which is why we have to balance it out. Owner B takes his last round pick - the one he could not use because it would be his 26th roster spot - and sends it to player A, who now has enough picks to finish the draft by having 25 players. I used 3 draft picks each in this example, but it would work the same way if player B had 10 draft picks. Whatever his last pick was - the one he couldn’t use - would go back to player A.

So the trade would actually be player A gives up his first and second rounders for player B’s first rounder and last round pick (whether that be third rounder or 10th rounder). Direct player for pick swaps work fine without any balancing - because one side is giving up a player, and the other one is giving up a draft pick, everyone’s team still adds up to 25. Trades must work out so that every player ends the draft with a total of 25 players, whether they be players they kept last year or new draft picks.

Also, drafts are not only rookies, they are anyone who is not on a roster. So all unowned players from last year are also available to draft. The vast majority of players drafted are rookies, but occasionally some unowned player becomes desirable to have (last year, Rob Gronkowski as an example came out of retirement and was unowned and someone drafted him) so they can get drafted.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/68 "2021-08-17T19:45:26Z")

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> [@RetroVertigo](#):
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> Would it be too much trouble to ask someone to PM me my team roster?

Here you go, click to expand.

> **No Use For A Name 2020 final roster**
>
> Kirk Cousins, QB, Min  
> Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Mia  
> Tom Brady, QB, TB
> 
> Dalvin Cook, RB, Min  
> Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Dal  
> Melvin Gordon III, RB, Den  
> Latavius Murray, RB, NO  
> Jeff Wilson Jr., RB, SF  
> Benny Snell Jr., RB, Pit  
> Darwin Thompson, RB, KC
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> CeeDee Lamb, WR, Dal  
> Courtland Sutton, WR, Den  
> Will Fuller V, WR, Mia  
> Curtis Samuel, WR, Was  
> Allen Lazard, WR, GB  
> Russell Gage, WR, Atl  
> A.J. Green, WR, Ari  
> Tre’Quan Smith, WR, NO  
> Miles Boykin, WR, Bal  
> Phillip Dorsett II, WR, Jax
> 
> Robert Tonyan, TE, GB  
> O.J. Howard, TE, TB  
> Eric Ebron, TE, Pit
> 
> Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Ind
> 
> San Francisco, DEF, SF  
> Green Bay, DEF, GB

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/69 "2021-08-17T20:26:29Z")

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FYI, you need to use the web based version of Yahoo fantasy football. You can’t see your roster on the app. And, Yahoo continues to have the most annoying two factor identification I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/70 "2021-08-17T21:39:47Z")

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I guess it’s been awhile since I’ve actually used a message board. Thank you for having my email address removed.

I am not, however, receiving the actual league invites. I’ve checked my spam folder as well and they are not in there.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/71 "2021-08-17T22:13:37Z")

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Ellis hooked me up. Thank you much by the way.

I’ve been told it shouldn’t be an issue just trying to traverse the Yahoo support team to find the person to actually help seems to be the biggest obstacle. I was told it was a major issue last year and the year before, but that in the first in a while.

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**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/72 "2021-08-18T04:33:25Z")

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Jules helped me out with an invite to an old yahoo email address of mine so I’m officially in the league. I am officially open for trade business.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/73 "2021-08-21T22:37:59Z")

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I’m in southwestern CT, one of the extended suburbs of NYC. Apparently Hurricane Henri is bearing down on us. Here’s what my power company (Eversource) said yesterday:

> **[Eversource Increases Number of Possible Power Outages for Tropical Storm Henri](https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/eversource-increases-number-of-possible-power-outages-for-hurricane-henri/2566032/)**
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> Eversource has increased the number of possible power outages as the state braces for Tropical Storm Henri. Officials said the energy company declared an Emergency Response Plan (ERP) Level 2 on Sunday. According to Eversource, between 50% and 69% of...

> [@](#):
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> According to Eversource, between 50% and 69% of its customers in the state could lose power and restoration efforts could last between eight and 21 days.

So what they’re saying is I have a 50/50 chance to lose power starting early tomorrow morning (Sunday) and not get power back until anywhere from August 30th to September 12th. Yikes.

Looks like I’ll be posting my cuts later tonight. I’m assuming I can still get online with my phone as needed for the draft, but without wifi it won’t work in the house. I can drive to somewhere it works without wifi I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/74 "2021-08-23T03:41:38Z")

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We’re about a week away from the cut down deadline and the start of the draft. We haven’t really had much issue with people missing the cut down deadline, but as a reminder it is technically the same time the draft starts. It is better if you can get cuts in early so we have time to go in and update Yahoo to reflect them. Not a big deal, though, since we can do it over the first day of picks. I’ll get the party started.

Since I do team reviews after the draft, I won’t put any commentary here.

**HungryHungryHaruspex - 2021 Tentative Roster & Cuts**

QB  
Aaron Rodgers  
Jalen Hurts  
Carson Wentz

RB  
Alvin Kamara  
Saquon Barkley  
Joe Mixon  
Nyheim Hines  
Eno Benjamin

WR  
Tyreek Hill  
DeAndre Hopkins  
DJ Moore  
Diontae Johnson  
Corey Davis  
Jerry Jeudy  
Bryan Edwards

TE  
Dallas Goedert  
Noah Fant  
Zach Ertz

K  
Daniel Carlson

DEF  
Washington  
Philadelphia  
Tennessee

CUTS  
QB Taysom Hill  
RB Trayveon Williams  
WR Preston Williams  
WR Van Jefferson  
WR Quintez Cephus

I had two on IR, so this gives me 3 picks

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/75 "2021-08-23T03:49:20Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> So what they’re saying is I have a 50/50 chance to lose power starting early tomorrow morning (Sunday) and not get power back until anywhere from August 30th to September 12th. Yikes.

If you have phone service but not data, I could give you my phone number and we could text updates to conduct your draft if you want.

I’m going to probably be stricter on timing the picks this year, I think. Last year we had a few delays that really pissed people off and dragged the draft to a halt. Please have a plan for what you’re doing when your pick is approaching. Trade talks are fine, but don’t just say “hey, I’ve got 10 hours left to make my pick, I’m going to listen to trade offers” and then not show up the next day. That goes for people who are potentially wanting to trade into slots too - put out some feelers to show your interest so they can gauge whether they should talk it out or just make their picks.

I’m not sure if we should have a hard and fast rule with no give - like, 12 hours after it’s your pick, the next guy can just pick - or if we should try to be softer and accommodate people a little more. Any opinions on that?

If you’re going to be unavailable and tell us ahead of time, we’ll probably be more lenient, but remember that you can PM me a list of players you want to draft and I won’t open up your PM until it’s your pick and then I can make the pick for you if you’re going to be away from the boards for 12+ hours when your pick is coming up.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/76 "2021-08-23T18:10:33Z")

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This may change, but as of right now I’m planning to make three cuts, which would give me 2.10, 3.10, and Nine Inch Neils’s last pick

**JB’s Gusterrhoids- 2021 Tentative Roster & Cuts**

**QB**  
Kyler Murray

**RB**  
Miles Sanders  
Aaron Jones  
Kenyan Drake  
Devonta Freeman  
Jamaal Williams  
Royce Freeman  
DeeJay Dallas  
Samaje Perine

**WR**  
Hunter Renfrow  
Marquez Valdes-Scantling  
Josh Reynolds  
A.J. Brown  
Jakobi Meyers  
Breshad Perriman  
Chase Claypool  
DeSean Jackson

**TE**  
Austin Hooper  
Hayden Hurst

**K**  
Greg Zuerlein

**DEFENSE**  
New Orleans  
Miami

**CUTS**  
Andy Dalton  
Alshon Jeffery  
Zane Gonzalez

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/77 "2021-08-23T18:54:21Z")

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Yay, I’m back in. I’ll look over my roster and submit cuts later tonight.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/78 "2021-08-23T22:42:51Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> If you have phone service but not data, I could give you my phone number and we could text updates to conduct your draft if you want.

I think I misread that statement. I would certainly fire the PR person who gave it. In hindsight, I think what they were trying to say was: “50% to 69% of our customers may experience some kind of disruption. It will take between 8 and 21 days to restore every last one of them to full service.”

I live on a main road through the center of town so we typically get power back early. Last August when I lost power for 5 days straight, I remember it being 2 or 3 weeks before _everyone_ was restored.

Moot in any case. Someone in my town must have been doing some really good deeds because our town was almost biblicly spared. Henri parked its ass right on top of Connecticut and chilled, with my entire town fully in the eye. We got almost no rain or wind at all. Clocks not even blinking.

Check out this image: (My tiny town, too small to appear on any map, is around 20 minutes north of Stamford.)

This is what the map looked like pretty much all day, with the storm swirling counterclockwise in place. It was nuts.

> **[Henri-08-22-2021 hosted at ImgBB](https://ibb.co/X3y2Ksd)**
>
> Image Henri-08-22-2021 hosted in ImgBB

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/79 "2021-08-23T23:19:01Z")

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New York Fanboys cuts, subject to unexpected changes:

Not ready to commit, edit window ending.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/80 "2021-08-23T23:36:23Z")

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Warner’s Brothers tentative list.

QB  
Dak Prescott  
Russel Wilson

RB  
Derrick Henry  
Tony Pollard  
Raheem Mostert  
James Connor  
Damian Harris  
James White  
Darrynton Evans  
Matt Brenda

WR  
Calvin Ridley  
Tee Higgins  
Amari Cooper  
Brandon Cooks  
Rashard Higgins  
Henry Ruggs  
John Brown

TE  
Logan Thomas  
Drew Sample

D/ST  
Seattle

K  
Ryan Succop

Drops  
Joshua Kelley RB  
Zach Pascal WR  
Lynn Bowden WR  
Tyler Eifert TE  
Ian Thomas TE

That gives me 4 picks

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