# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 13

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [July 21, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931 "2021-07-21T01:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/162 "2021-08-30T20:39:27Z")

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I think you’re right, you have to select it rather than just type the whole thing, as I didn’t get a notification.

@RetroVertigo is up.

Also… I’m going to say no on cutting Akins. You can’t really get an extra draft pick by taking care of a need after the draft started. It wouldn’t really be different from saying “oh I didn’t think there would be this player at my pick, now that I drafted him I don’t need this other guy anymore, so let me cut him” - you can’t generate new draft picks based on not needing players anymore because of how the draft went.

@Omniscient hasn’t submitted his cut list yet even though it was due, but that’s a different issue. We went with some presumed cuts for him because he didn’t get his cuts in on time.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/163 "2021-08-30T20:46:43Z")

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What’s a little funny is that typing the name with the wrong caps, like you did above… we can still click on that and see the person’s profile. So it would be weird if it didn’t work, since it correctly associates it with a user.

It’s possible it didn’t send me a notification because I was looking at the thread at the time.

Anyway, just to be on the safe side, type @, start typing in the name of the person with the next pick, then click it when the list pops up. That should give them a notification that they were mentioned.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/164 "2021-08-30T21:26:10Z")

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Give me a couple hours and I’ll be back with my final cuts.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/165 "2021-08-30T21:50:51Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Did you type that, and if so, did it work? Here’s a quick test, I’ll @ you by typing with wrong case, see if you get a notification:

Correction: I didn’t see the notification when I got back (perhaps because I was looking at the thread), but looking at past notifications it does work.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/166 "2021-08-30T23:03:59Z")

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Fair. Just throwing it out there.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/167 "2021-08-30T23:29:28Z")

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I guess now is as good a time as any, since we’re waiting for the pick just before:

**Trade to announce:**  
**HungryHungryHaruspex** receives:  
RB Christian McCaffrey  
TE T.J. Hockenson  
RB Ronald Jones  
1.04  
2.04  
2022 last pick

**New York Fanboys** receives:  
RB Saquon Barkley  
RB Joe Mixon  
WR D.J. Moore  
WR Corey Davis  
4.12  
2022 1st

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/168 "2021-08-31T00:10:59Z")

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Updated picks list reflecting our trade:

1.01 RNATB - Najee Harris, RB, Pit  
1.02 Beef - Kyle Pitts, TE, Atl  
1.03 Retro -  
1.04 Jules -  
1.05 Hamlet -  
1.06 Gaffer -  
1.07 Overly -  
1.08 Peteys -  
1.09 Omni -  
1.10 RNATB -  
1.11 dale -  
1.12 dale -

> **Click to Expand**
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> 2.01 RNATB -  
> 2.02 Beef -  
> 2.03 Retro -  
> 2.04 Jules -  
> 2.05 Hamlet -  
> 2.06 Gaffer -  
> 2.07 Overly -  
> 2.08 Jules -  
> 2.09 Omni -  
> 2.10 Justin -  
> 2.11 dale -  
> 2.12 dale -
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> 3.01 Justin -  
> 3.02 Beef -  
> 3.03 Retro -  
> 3.04 Ellis -  
> 3.06 Gaffer -  
> 3.07 Overly -  
> 3.08 Peteys -  
> 3.09 Omni -  
> 3.10 Justin -  
> 3.11 Jules -  
> 3.12 Jules -
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> 4.02 Beef -  
> 4.06 Gaffer -  
> 4.08 Peteys -  
> 4.09 Omni -  
> 4.10 Justin -  
> 4.11 Jules -  
> 4.12 Ellis -
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> 5.08 Peteys -  
> 5.09 Omni -  
> 6.08 Peteys -

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/169 "2021-08-31T01:07:31Z")

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Well that was certainly a trade. Not sure I feel about it for sure, but I think Jules probably got the better of it. But I’m not high on Mixon or Corey Davis.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/170 "2021-08-31T01:14:54Z")

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Retro hasn’t posted in 5 days. I sent him an e-mail to his FF address just to make sure he remembers. I hope he ends up making a pick tonight or we’re going to have to test the bounds of time limits before moving on.

A high pick like the third overall probably deserves more of a delay to make sure the player has a chance to draft who they want compared to picks later in the draft, so even if we’re generous with our time here, that doesn’t mean they we will give the same amount of leeway to a third round pick later.

I’m leaning towards making around noon tomorrow the deadline for Retro to get his pick in.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/171 "2021-08-31T01:28:01Z")

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Here’s my official cuts. I’m pretty sure this leaves me with 5 picks if I counted the IR spots correctly.

Also, how about Discourse handling the copy-paste of the table format directly from Yahoo. Leaving all the pointless info since it’s not worth the effort to remove.

| Kept Player | 2020 Draft Position | 2020 Final Rank | Current O-Rank |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| [Robert Woods](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26664) (LAR - WR) | Round 14, Pick 1 | 43 | 40 |
| [Darnell Mooney](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32843) (Chi - WR) | - | 161 | 129 |
| [Chase Edmonds](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31104) (Ari - RB) | Round 19, Pick 1 | 90 | 68 |
| [Mark Andrews](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31056) (Bal - TE) | Round 9, Pick 1 | 117 | 55 |
| [Denzel Mims](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32729) (NYJ - WR) Q | Round 3, Pick 1 | 328 | 283 |
| [Adam Thielen](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27277) (Min - WR) Q | Round 13, Pick 1 | 36 | 50 |
| [Clyde Edwards-Helaire](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32702) (KC - RB) Q | Round 1, Pick 1 | 87 | 24 |
| [Kenny Golladay](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30209) (NYG - WR) Q | Round 15, Pick 1 | 303 | 82 |
| [Julio Jones](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24793) (Ten - WR) Q | Round 16, Pick 1 | 163 | 48 |
| [Antonio Gibson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32736) (Was - RB) | Round 2, Pick 3 | 53 | 14 |
| [Adam Trautman](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32775) (NO - TE) Q | - | 380 | 211 |
| [Devin Duvernay](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32762) (Bal - WR) | - | 268 | 2368 |
| [Sony Michel](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31001) (LAR - RB) | Round 20, Pick 1 | 256 | 95 |
| [Justin Jackson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31221) (LAC - RB) Q | Round 17, Pick 1 | 302 | 188 |
| [Marquez Callaway](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/33109) (NO - WR) | - | 347 | 131 |
| [Joey Slye](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32384) (Car - K) NA | Round 8, Pick 5 | 147 | 291 |
| [Robbie Gould](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7520) (SF - K) | Round 5, Pick 1 | 195 | 224 |
| [Chicago](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/chicago/) (Chi - DEF) | Round 7, Pick 1 | 187 | 236 |
| [Kansas City](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/kansas-city/) (KC - DEF) | Round 6, Pick 1 | 148 | 195 |
| [Tarik Cohen](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30232) (Chi - RB) PUP-P | Round 21, Pick 1 | 467 | 184 |

| Released Player | 2020 Draft Position | 2020 Final Rank | Current O-Rank |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| [Mitchell Trubisky](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30115) (Buf - QB) | Round 25, Pick 1 | 83 | 351 |
| [Ito Smith](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31096) (Min - RB) NA | Round 18, Pick 1 | 332 | 317 |
| [Kyle Rudolph](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24830) (NYG - TE) Q | Round 8, Pick 1 | 318 | 325 |
| [Gardner Minshew II](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32010) (Phi - QB) | Round 22, Pick 1 | 73 | 348 |
| [Drew Lock](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31874) (Den - QB) | Round 23, Pick 1 | 46 | 311 |
| [Antonio Gandy-Golden](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32812) (Was - WR) | Round 3, Pick 3 | 560 | 2474 |
| [Collin Johnson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32835) (Jax - WR) | - | 323 | 1863 |

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/172 "2021-08-31T01:59:57Z")

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Pick 1.03 J’marr Chase WR Cin

@Jules_Andre is on the clock.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/173 "2021-08-31T02:02:03Z")

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1.04 - Devonta Smith, WR, Phi

@Hamlet is on the clock

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/174 "2021-08-31T02:15:38Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> But I’m not high on Mixon or Corey Davis.

Compared to Ronald Jones and Jarvis Landry, I think they’re solid upgrades. I only liked Harris and Pitts at the top of this draft. I mean, I _did_ like Etienne as well, but…

I went by this chart, asking for a premium. It says Jules paid 30 more than I did. i will say this: This is the first time any WR on my team has been valued at 50+ _ever_. I don’t think any of my WRs has ever broken 30, imagining similar calculators for years past. I’ve also never had RB2 worth more than 20s, probably. Akers was supposed to finally be it, but…

I’m basically the 20s guy. All my guys except CMC are valued in the 20s or less in that trade calculator. This trade gives me two starting RBs valued 50+ and also a starting WR of 50+. I view this as a major upgrade; a complete overhaul of the team.

> **[Fantasy Football Rankings: Dynasty Trade Value Chart (August 2021 Update)](https://www.fantasypros.com/2021/08/fantasy-football-rankings-dynasty-trade-value-chart-august-2021-update/)**
>
>   Have you ever had an offer sent to you that included a total of six different players including draft picks and you had no idea how to break it down? Do you match up player vs. player and compare … read more »

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/175 "2021-08-31T02:18:22Z")

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My gut reaction was that Jules got a much better deal, but now I’m not so sure. Jules gets the best player in fantasy for a slightly younger and possibly more injury prone version. Mixon is a clear upgrade from Ronald Jones, but only based on current opportunity. Hockenson is arguably more valuable than Davis, but I originally looked at Moore as a throw-in before remembering he put up pretty good numbers the last two years. So essentially it’s a second-round pick for a very productive yardage receiver. Maybe?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/176 "2021-08-31T02:20:15Z")

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Davis was a throw-in I didn’t particularly want but didn’t object to. In my mind, the trade was:

CMC + Hockenson  
for  
Saquon + Mixon + Moore

Jules really wanted my draft picks, and I wasn’t opposed, so I let him toss in Davis for picks and whatnot.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/177 "2021-08-31T02:34:52Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Jules really wanted my draft picks, and I wasn’t opposed, so I let him toss in Davis for picks and whatnot.

This is true. I originally wanted to move Mixon and Davis for the two picks. I thought it was worth swinging for CMC to see what we could work out, and Ellis makes for a good trade partner. He offers reasonable, considerate thoughts and counter proposals. We got a deal done pretty quickly. I was under the impression I was overpaying a tiny bit, but within the margin for getting the best player in the deal.

Saquon is one of my favorite players, if not my favorite overall, and I think he is a generational talent. I generally try to ignore situation, but in this case I am trying to win this season. Saquon’s usage at the end of 2019 was a concern, and his O-Line hasn’t improved. Same with Mixon. I believe in both of them, but they each have huge question marks this year. CMC has a floor in the stratosphere, so he makes for a more stable asset for this year’s run. Plus, as exceptional receiving backs, CMC and Kamara should last a bit longer than normal. I think the trade works both ways

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/178 "2021-08-31T02:51:38Z")

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Wow. That is a big trade.

I don’t enjoy chasing Jules in the division, but I’m not sure this makes him any better. McCaffrey is obviously great, but I like Mixon and Saquon, and I think Ellis just got a lot better while leaving Jules in basically the same spot.

But bravo for finally moving Corey Davis. I feel like you offered him up every time we talked a trade last year.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/179 "2021-08-31T03:06:08Z")

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Yeah he seemed really motivated to include Davis. I don’t have anything against Davis, or even any opinion about him at all. The calculator says he would be the best receiver on my team if I didn’t also acquire Moore in the deal. That’s how dire it’s been.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/180 "2021-08-31T03:25:00Z")

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I ran that trade through 3 calculators and they all seemed to think it was fairly even, disagreeing on who it was slightly slanted towards. That’s pretty remarkable for such a big trade. Maybe it will end up benefitting both of you. But maybe it will haunt Jules and he will be punished for his trade addiction.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-13/946931/181 "2021-08-31T03:28:18Z")

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I think my starting lineup did get a tiny bit worse, if you consider projections. But I think it got far more stable. I am confident my team will come out near or at the top of the total points at season’s end, so my strategy is to avoid the nightmare weeks where all these boom/bust guys bust at once and I am knocked out of the playoffs.

As for Corey Davis, he’s going to be a top 24 WR this year. I should have asked for more, but nobody knows anything but me!! Anyway, I can never start him. I might as well sell my depth for a championship window, and then start building it again

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