# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 14

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [July 16, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055 "2022-07-16T17:49:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/581 "2022-09-19T13:59:43Z")

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I think I remember wanting to do it one time in an important game and I think we said no, but even if that happened I would have objected on the grounds that that was silly. As dale’s opponent I have no problem with him benching his defense if he wants.

Looks like Peteys and Hamlet will be distancing themselves from the pack in the point totals this week.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/582 "2022-09-20T00:29:19Z")

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Damn. Got stuck with work and missed the early kickoff of thd Bills game. I had set up my flex to play Gabe Davis if he started, and Devin Singletary if he didnt. Any chance at a sub after the game starts, or am I just screwed?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/583 "2022-09-20T01:02:41Z")

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I wish you’d have posted ahead in the thread, if you declare that up front we definitely could’ve done a conditional start.

In general making those changes undeclared after the fact is something that I hate to do unless it’s completely obvious what you would’ve done. Like I think in the past we’ve had someone accidentally leave a defense on bye in their starting slot and so it became obvious they would’ve wanted to start the defense on their bench.

So I know you’re not trying to abuse anything and at the time you asked for this Singletary had like 2 points so you weren’t trying to game the system, but you did have other options to start like Irv Smith and Boston Scott also playing tonight, so not as unambiguous as the above situation.

@Jules_Andre do you happen to know what our policy has been on this? I do remember making a substitution like this once or twice, but IIRC the situation made what the decision would’ve been clear and obvious.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/584 "2022-09-20T01:09:31Z")

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There was one time that someone (Overly?) requested something similar but it was impossible, so it wasn’t implemented. Otherwise, I think we’ve pretty much always done it if it was reasonable (game wasn’t already over, etc.) and the opponent agreed. I don’t recall we’ve ever had a situation where someone had multiple options to start, though

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/585 "2022-09-20T01:36:37Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I wish you’d have posted ahead in the thread, if you declare that up front we definitely could’ve done a conditional start.

Absolutely. I didnt check ahead of time, and figured a MNF game would start at its regular time, rather than an hour earlier.

> [@Beef](#):
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> So I know you’re not trying to abuse anything and at the time you asked for this Singletary had like 2 points so you weren’t trying to game the system, but you did have other options to start like Irv Smith and Boston Scott also playing tonight, so not as unambiguous as the above situation.

I had to use the WR/RB flex spot to set this choice up, so Irv Smith wasnt possible. And I cant imagine starting a 3rd stringer with 4 carries this season over the starting RB on the best offense would cause confusion.

I’ll survive either way. Unless Diggs gets another few tds. Which he just might.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/586 "2022-09-20T01:38:13Z")

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It’s completely plausible/probable that you’d start Singletary so I have no doubt you’re acting in good faith, it’s just a matter of making decisions that can affect game outcomes in a really consistent, objective way so it can never end up screwing someone unfairly. If it ends up being the difference in the game, I will dig up in the past where we’ve faced this situation before and see what we did.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/587 "2022-09-20T14:25:27Z")

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Thankfully those whopping 3.1 points from Devin Singletary were irrelevant to the final outcome this week.

But I do think we need to make a hard and fast rule about this thing, because it does come up every so often. After thinking about it, I think we should make a simple rule that, since we allow “conditional starts” for gametime decisions when we’re not available to make them, then all lineups are final. If you have an issue like I did, post your concerns to the thread before the games, and what you want will happen. But if you don’t, you’re screwed.

The downside is that it is a bit more work for the commish and asst commish to have to wade through the thread in detail every week to check, and it could fill up the thread with every conceivable eventuality (if Austin Ekeler is hit by a car on the way to practice, I’ll be starting Rashaad Penny).

The upside is the surety of the lineup and having an enforceable rule with no real debate. Covid and late covid scratches could make this even more painful, but I think that fairness mandates a rule rather than speculation.

Thoughts?

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**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/588 "2022-09-20T15:09:54Z")

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I tend to agree, and would encourage everyone to try and minimize their conditional starts to ease the burden on the commish(es).

So kickoff finalizes starters, but you can have conditional starts if you posted it in the thread before kickoff. Works for me.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/589 "2022-09-20T15:42:43Z")

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SDMB-Dynasty League - Week 2  
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> **Week 2 Actual Scores**
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> | Week 2 | Actual | Season | Actual |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | 1. Peteys | 161.20 | 1. Peteys | 307.79 |
> | 2. Beef +5 | 142.95 | 2. Hamlet +1 | 267.65 |
> | 3. Hamlet | 135.65 | 3. Jules +1 | 259.05 |
> | 4. Jules | 132.05 | 4. Beef +3 | 244.50 |
> | 5. dale +7 | 126.25 | 5. RNATB | 241.95 |
> | 6. RNATB -1 | 120.70 | 6. Ellis -4 | 241.25 |
> | 7. Justin +2 | 112.65 | 7. Gaffer -1 | 211.24 |
> | 8. Gaffer -2 | 107.74 | 8. Justin +1 | 208.16 |
> | 9. Ellis -7 | 96.80 | 9. dale +3 | 205.75 |
> | 10. Mundi +1 | 95.95 | 10. Retro -2 | 195.70 |
> | 11. Retro -3 | 95.50 | 11. Mundi | 175.75 |
> | 12. Omni -2 | 63.90 | 12. Omni -2 | 147.85 |
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> | Week 2 | Actual | Season | Actual |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | 1. Peteys | 11-0 | 1. Peteys | 22-0 |
> | 2. Beef +5 | 10-1 | 2. Hamlet +1 | 18-4 |
> | 3. Hamlet | 9-2 | 3. Jules +1 | 16-6 |
> | 4. Jules | 8-3 | 4. Beef +3 | 15-7 |
> | 5. dale +7 | 7-4 | 5. RNATB | 13-9 |
> | 6. RNATB -1 | 6-5 | 6. Ellis -4 | 13-9 |
> | 7. Justin +2 | 5-6 | 7. Gaffer -1 | 10-12 |
> | 8. Gaffer -2 | 4-7 | 8. Justin +1 | 8-14 |
> | 9. Ellis -7 | 3-8 | 9. dale +3 | 7-15 |
> | 10. Mundi +1 | 2-9 | 10. Retro -2 | 5-17 |
> | 11. Retro -3 | 1-10 | 11. Mundi | 3-19 |
> | 12. Omni -2 | 0-11 | 12. Omni -2 | 2-20 |

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> **Week 2 Potential Scores**
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> | Week 2 | Potent | Season | Potent |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | 1. Jules +4 | 188.10 | 1. Jules +4 | 340.20 |
> | 2. Peteys +1 | 174.20 | 2. Peteys +1 | 339.01 |
> | 3. Beef +4 | 165.05 | 3. Hamlet +1 | 312.25 |
> | 4. Hamlet | 157.45 | 4. Gaffer -2 | 305.39 |
> | 5. dale +5 | 154.35 | 5. Beef +2 | 298.90 |
> | 6. Retro +2 | 151.65 | 6. Ellis -5 | 298.40 |
> | 7. Justin +2 | 150.45 | 7. Retro +1 | 281.90 |
> | 8. Gaffer -6 | 137.34 | 8. Justin +1 | 277.90 |
> | 9. RNATB -3 | 131.85 | 9. RNATB -3 | 275.72 |
> | 10. Ellis -9 | 111.60 | 10. dale | 267.74 |
> | 11. Mundi +1 | 109.80 | 11. Mundi +1 | 217.50 |
> | 12. Omni -1 | 96.42 | 12. Omni -1 | 208.60 |
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> | Week 2 | Potent | Season | Potent |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | 1. Jules +4 | 11-0 | 1. Peteys +2 | 19-3 |
> | 2. Peteys +1 | 10-1 | 2. Jules +3 | 18-4 |
> | 3. Beef +4 | 9-2 | 3. Hamlet +1 | 16-6 |
> | 4. Hamlet | 8-3 | 4. Gaffer -2 | 14-8 |
> | 5. dale +5 | 7-4 | 5. Beef +2 | 14-8 |
> | 6. Retro +2 | 6-5 | 6. Ellis -5 | 13-9 |
> | 7. Justin +2 | 5-6 | 7. Retro +1 | 10-12 |
> | 8. Gaffer -6 | 4-7 | 8. RNATB -2 | 9-13 |
> | 9. RNATB -3 | 3-8 | 9. dale +1 | 9-13 |
> | 10. Ellis -9 | 2-9 | 10. Justin -1 | 8-14 |
> | 11. Mundi +1 | 1-10 | 11. Mundi +1 | 1-21 |
> | 12. Omni -1 | 0-11 | 12. Omni -1 | 1-21 |

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> **Week 2 Coaching Grades**
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> | Week 2 | | | Season | | |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | 1. Peteys | 93% | A- | 1. Peteys | 91% | A- |
> | 2. RNATB +1 | 92% | A- | 2. RNATB +1 | 88% | B+ |
> | 3. Mundi +7 | 87% | B+ | 3. Hamlet -1 | 86% | B |
> | 4. Ellis +1 | 87% | B | 4. Beef +3 | 82% | B- |
> | 5. Beef +2 | 87% | B | 5. Ellis | 81% | B- |
> | 6. Hamlet -4 | 86% | B | 6. Mundi +4 | 81% | B- |
> | 7. dale +4 | 82% | B- | 7. dale +4 | 77% | C |
> | 8. Gaffer +4 | 78% | C+ | 8. Jules -4 | 76% | C |
> | 9. Justin -1 | 75% | C | 9. Justin -1 | 75% | C |
> | 10. Jules -6 | 70% | C- | 10. Omni -1 | 71% | C- |
> | 11. Omni -2 | 66% | D | 11. Retro -5 | 69% | D+ |
> | 12. Retro -6 | 63% | D- | 12. Gaffer | 69% | D+ |

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Couldn’t make colors happen, so change numbers are just plain text.

Looks like the precipitous drop I predicted for myself happened in week 2. That sounds about right. I’m really hoping this week was an aberration and my team bounces back. Definite flashback to when I was starting guys like Ronald Jones and Darius Slayton.

EDIT: The column header “Potential” is too wide; it pushes the change numbers down to a second line on my phone. I manually shortened those headers to Potent for this post. Is there a better, shorter word anyone can think of?

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/590 "2022-09-20T15:52:16Z")

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IR Slots question.

Did we decide to honor a “soft cap” of 3 IR slots? With Tyrion Davis-Price out for a few weeks I currently have 4 players slotted to IR, but I have refrained from entering a waiver request to fill my final roster slot (not that I think anyone available on the wire right now is likely to shift a balance of power.)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/591 "2022-09-20T16:01:57Z")

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Go ahead and use your IR slots. The discussion on them was kind of inconclusive (my bad on that) and I think the consensus was that now that we’re dialed in for 6 we might as well just use them and discuss the issue more firmly next year.

As for the replacement rules, we can discuss those a bit more. I don’t mind going back and helping someone out when the decision is unambiguous (like if they have one kicker on bye, pick up another one, but forget to stick them in the starting slot - I think this happened once) but having a hard rule makes sense. The amount of work either way on the commish is no big deal, either with conditional starts or retroactive fixes.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/592 "2022-09-23T21:49:33Z")

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Brian Robinson, RB, SHOT IN THE LEG is already back practicing in Washington apparently which is nuts. Turns out it wouldn’t have been that big a deal if RNATB had autodrafted him. In fact it’ll be funny if he ends up becoming great and RNATB regrets not having done so.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/593 "2022-09-25T14:57:05Z")

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I certainly hope that is the case 🙂 Though I don’t think he will regret having Chris Olave on his roster.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/594 "2022-09-25T17:25:58Z")

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I don’t think I’ve ever had my entire team playing in the Sunday morning games before. So I get almost my entire Sunday back? What am I supposed to do on Sundays?

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/595 "2022-09-25T17:28:38Z")

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Meth.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/596 "2022-09-25T19:04:40Z")

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Petey and I have been basically exactly 50/50 since the start of the week and all through the games today. Big game.

I lost David Montgomery early in the game or I’d probably be ahead.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/597 "2022-09-25T23:02:53Z")

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Back to 51/49 with Petey. It’s going to come down to Deebo vs Kittle probably. Kyle Pitts is at least alive which was unclear so far this year.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/598 "2022-09-25T23:40:32Z")

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It seems like every week is “Chaos Week” with more and more insanity every time. There were approximately 209 TE touchdowns this week. What a strange season so far.

I was pretty worried this week because Ellis had a really strong projection outside of Yahoo, but I guess I was due to actually hit my projection for once. It’s not technically over, but it would take 40+ from Saquon and 20 from the kicker on the same team, which is close to impossible.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/599 "2022-09-26T01:42:09Z")

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So far my team had one good week then shit the bed ever since. What’s worse this week is that the teams my guys are on did well: Colts beat the Chiefs, Panthers beat the Saints, Bengals beat the Jets, but Michael Pittman plus DJ Moore plus Joe Mixon was only good for 18.5. That’s what I need them each to score, not combined.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/600 "2022-09-26T08:50:12Z")

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Petey’s has a 6.8 point lead on me, and I have the Dallas defense against NYG. Yahoo puts me at a 71% favorite. If I had started the Denver D (22) I’d be crushing it, but that wasn’t a realistic move. I could’ve put the Chargers in (against Jax) and they scored the maximum negative score of -8.

Dale needs 15.36 points out of Tony Pollard to beat RNATB. Yahoo says 26% chance. That seems pretty optimistic since, as far as I know, Elliot is okay.

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