# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 14

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [July 16, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055 "2022-07-16T17:49:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/721 "2022-10-31T18:48:09Z")

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> [@RetroVertigo](#):
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> 43 points from Kicker and Def.  
> You pray for a week or two of that scoring from one but to get it from both on the same week. Jeez.

163 points. I’m kind of in shock myself. I’ll never be able to repeat it, but it’s nice to know that my team is not completely hopeless.

I’m coming for you Jules!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/722 "2022-11-01T02:37:12Z")

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Good news guys. I broke the impressive 100 point barrier.

8-0

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/723 "2022-11-01T13:33:34Z")

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I kicked ass this week and was feeling good….and then I saw how decimated I am with bye weeks this week, plus I’ll be busy all weekend so not a lot of time to pay attention to fantasy

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/724 "2022-11-01T13:44:41Z")

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Anyone know what the longest win streak to open a season (or I suppose at any point) is in league history? Not asking anyone to figure it out, wondering if perhaps we discussed it before, or maybe Jules has some crazy spreadsheet with all knowledge of everything that has ever happened in the league.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/725 "2022-11-01T16:34:41Z")

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Glad I get to make Ellis’ day again:

Irv Smith Jr. out with a high ankle sprain.

I now need 9 IR spots.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/726 "2022-11-01T18:32:21Z")

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Does anyone else have a sense of how many IR slots should be appropriate in this age of temporary IR status?

Hamlet is demonstrating the worst case scenario quite effectively. Surely we need more than two or three.

Four?

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/727 "2022-11-01T20:04:16Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Anyone know what the longest win streak to open a season (or I suppose at any point) is in league history?

I don’t know about starting a season, but under the League menu there is a Record Book section that has that record for our league. You have the record at 10 straight wins in 2011, according to that

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Does anyone else have a sense of how many IR slots should be appropriate in this age of temporary IR status?

With short-term IR, I am much more on the side of permanently increasing our slots. I don’t think the point is to have a slot for every single injury and 3rd TE who sprains an ankle and injured free agent you sign, but I think 4 might be the right number. Free Agency has been severely impacted by these slots, too, so there is a downside

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/728 "2022-11-01T20:32:24Z")

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Four sounds good to me too. Two is definitely too few, but five seems like too many (sorry Hamlet).

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/729 "2022-11-02T00:52:28Z")

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We’re getting to some interesting parts of the season a lot earlier than I expected. Perhaps as early as realistically possible.

If you look at the Yahoo projections, it has Beef finishing as the 4th seed at 11-3. The 5th seed would be Ellis, finishing at 8-6. That’s a big difference, but looking at the current records, that brings up something interesting. If 8-6 really is the 5th seed, that means Beef would have to lose out from here for the 5th seed to have a chance at the playoffs. Because Beef’s team has been extraordinarily lucky and outperformed all season, he can’t count on a probable tie-breaker with points scored, so he could miss the playoffs entirely in that scenario. Or maybe the 4th seed ends up at 9-5, in which case Beef can lose one. But that means Ellis, or whoever is in 5th, has to win out from here to have a chance.

So it isn’t mathematically over. There are five teams at 3-5, and nobody is locked into a playoff spot yet. But in a practical sense, one of those five teams has go unbeaten from here to have a realistic chance. For Peteys, Hamlet, and myself, the magic number is two with the probable tie-breaker advantage. Three to have no ties possible. Beef needs to win two of the next six to lock up his spot.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/730 "2022-11-02T01:03:35Z")

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Keep hope alive!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/731 "2022-11-02T01:10:58Z")

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Starting 8-0 and missing the playoffs would actually be a more interesting and maybe in a weird way more fun result than a round 1 playoff loss. Let’s go for it.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/732 "2022-11-02T01:43:28Z")

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I think it would be just as much fun if RNATB finished last and outscored a playoff team

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/733 "2022-11-02T02:16:49Z")

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I’m on board, though I suspect I will score fewer points going forward since I’ve traded away so many currently productive players. If Rondale Moore and Hardman’s sudden productive busts aren’t mirages, anything is possible. And I’m a whole game back from Omni now with the tiebreaker against me.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/734 "2022-11-02T02:21:17Z")

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I am thinking 3 or 4 IR slots, I want people to have to make roster decisions, but our rosters are large. I’m thinking 3 IR sounds right, I’d vote for 4. Of course, I’m in for life so I won’t pout if the league votes more.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/735 "2022-11-02T02:39:25Z")

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Did we say you don’t have to start a defense if you don’t want to?

Three of my four defenses have a bye this week: Giants, Steelers and Browns. (Really wishing I started the Browns last week instead of the Jets, who got their shit pushed in by the Patriots. Ouch.) Only the Jets are actually playing a game, so they’re the only one of my four available. They’re good – I started them the last two weeks – but they are hosting the Bills this week. Yahoo optimistically projects them to score 0.60.

I suppose I could sign a fifth defense off the waiver wire, but I kind of don’t want to. Can I start one of my defenses that’s on a bye?

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/736 "2022-11-02T02:54:13Z")

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I think it is perfectly valid to not start a defense since they are significantly more likely to score negative points than any other position. I don’t think that would be questioned

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/737 "2022-11-02T03:09:21Z")

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It’s required that you try to start your best team / try to win every game. It can be reasonable in a situation like yours that starting no defense is your best option so that’s fine.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/738 "2022-11-02T04:00:16Z")

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I played without a QB and beat @SenorBeef one matchup.

If we were starting a brand new league, I think we’d probably want more definitive rules. But we’ve been going strong and everyone wants to win each weekend and it’s worked this long.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/739 "2022-11-03T15:24:00Z")

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So my view on IR slots seems to be the opposite of many people. Others think that because there’s a short term IR now, and more players go on IR because of that, that we need more IR slots; my first instinct is the opposite. IR slots were meant as a relief for owners that got screwed by their players missing the whole year without adding too much flexibility to use as a way of reducing week to week roster management decisions.

A player going on short IR is not nearly as much as a “hey, that sucks, you got screwed, we’ll give you some relief until next year” situation - it’s just someone that’s going to be out for an extended period. In previous years, you’d just have to choose whether it was worth keeping a guy on your roster for the 6ish weeks he was out, it was more of a strategic roster management decision. This makes IR slots now much more versatile - they aren’t “well just forget about that player until next year” slots, but rather a strategy depth slot to house a relatively short term injury. It’s almost like we added a new type of slot between bench and IR, even though they actually occupy the same slot. Short IR represents a change in strategy. Yahoo also allows regular “out” players to occupy these slots - I don’t think it used to be this way but I can’t recall when the change was made.

So short IR makes the slots both more powerful, and less specific to their original intended purpose. That makes me reluctant to increase their number. If we were operating under the old IR rules, I’d be okay with 4 or even 6, but with the new rules they become so versatile that I’m concerned that having a lot of them depletes the waiver wire to near-uselessness.

As far as I’m aware, there’s no way for us to differentiate from within yahoo full season IR and short IR, and some people are uncomfortable with self-governing on this issue. I think having many of these new versatile IR slots might be dangerous and make roster management decisions too easy and the waiver wire too thin. I also really hate that yahoo allows regular old out players - who are only out for the week - to occupy IR slots. They’ve really diluted the purpose of those slots with that.

I would not strongly object to 4 slots, but I don’t know if it’s the obvious good idea it may seem like.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/740 "2022-11-03T16:59:39Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> This makes IR slots now much more versatile - they aren’t “well just forget about that player until next year” slots, but rather a strategy depth slot to house a relatively short term injury.

This is also true of the NFL, where they are more likely to put someone with a month-long injury on IR than they ever used to.

It is a different mechanic, but more players in the NFL are actually on IR nowadays than there used to be. Or at least I would assume.

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> Yahoo also allows regular “out” players to occupy these slots - I don’t think it used to be this way but I can’t recall when the change was made.

That surprises me, but sure enough I just tried it and it let me.

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