# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 14

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [July 16, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055 "2022-07-16T17:49:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/841 "2022-12-19T21:29:02Z")

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I lost a Minn DEF touchdown on a horrendous fumble call. And I could have used a few Josh Jacobs overtime points, but Jakobi Myers and Mac Jones quashed that for me with one of the worst plays of all time.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/842 "2022-12-19T23:24:46Z")

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Yeah you guys still have a close one going into tonight. Petey2 needs 15.33 out of Aaron Jones to win.

That crazy lateral thing probably didn’t make the difference in my game, but overtime that featured a Carr to Adams touchdown could’ve made the difference so I was groaning at the bad call leading to the overtime and pretty happy about the nonsensical play.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/843 "2022-12-20T03:16:41Z")

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After watching AJ Dillon put up 2 TDs on his bench which must’ve been a little bit blue balling, Aaron Jones scores a TD and moves Petey into the lead.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/844 "2022-12-20T04:17:24Z")

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Only two things are certain in this league: the regular season king losing in the playoffs, and the Sunbelt dominating. We’re taking the league title _and_ the first pick this year! Might even win the consolation bracket too (go dale!)

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**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/845 "2022-12-20T04:31:01Z")

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I could really use Lamar next week. Let’s get the horse opioids out and get him in the game! This is for the title!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/846 "2022-12-20T10:55:19Z")

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1. Peteys 110.08 defeats 3. Moridwon (Hamlet) 106.80

and

1. Exploding Pancakes 160.70 defeats 1. HungryHungryHaruspex 141.75

Championship game:

1. Peteys

vs

1. Exploding Pancakes

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/847 "2022-12-21T09:52:53Z")

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I’m concerned Jules may have had an annuerism.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/848 "2022-12-22T10:55:30Z")

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I’m currently a 20 point dog and I’ve got a lot of questionables on my roster. It would be a shame to have overcome Jules just to lose in the championship game.

I’m down yet another receiver in Tyler Lockett. I need to start Donovan Peoples-Jones for lack of options but the game in Cleveland is supposed to have a wind chill of -30 and has the lowest over/under betting line in like 20 years. I guess I have to start Marquise Goodwin too because who the fuck else is there. Nick Chubb might not play either. He might not be hurt as badly by a cold game but he might not be there.

Josh Allen is playing in Chicago with a predicted temp range of 2-9f, too, although he did fine in a snow game last week. It would actually not be completely bonkers to consider starting Geno Smith (@KC) over him although I don’t think I could actually pull the trigger on that.

Might be my first start for Jahan Dotson but I don’t even know which receiver to replace. I’m down to my 5th 6th and 7th best receivers anyway.

Welp I need some guys to pull some stuff out of their ass for the second week in a row. Go go Josh Allen, moose in a blizzard.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/849 "2022-12-24T09:06:21Z")

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Donovan Peoples-Jones has put up 11+ points in 5 of the last 6 weeks but it’s going to be -40 windchill in Cleveland tomorrow. Marquise Goodwin apparently had an ankle sprain this week and missed practice but is expected to play. I’m probably going to lose by a healthy enough margin that I’m not going to end up second guessing starting decisions, but who knows. I am really scraping by at receiver.

I actually have kind of a glut at RB. I’m probably going to end up having to sit David Montgomery who had 22 points last week unless Stevenson is hurt.

It’s probably going to be low scoring games without a lot of surprises across the league tomorrow, which does not bode well for me since I need unusual scores to happen. I’m now 33 points behind in projection.

I guess beating Jules is an accomplishment even if I don’t end up winning for the second year in a row.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/850 "2022-12-24T11:52:29Z")

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You have to win. Losing now would be the equivalent of the Miracle on Ice team losing to Switzerland in the gold medal round.

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**Author:** ![PeteyPart2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@PeteyPart2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeteyPart2)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/851 "2022-12-24T23:21:16Z")

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Do you believe in miracles!!! … No. I promise to be a humble and benevolent champion.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/852 "2022-12-25T00:50:36Z")

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Well a little anticlimactic for me, I was lucky in terms of timing and win/loss record this year so my team was really overachieving anyway. I’m still going to remember taking down all time scoring champion Jules in the semi-finals.

Congratulations to Re-Petey, 2022 Dynasty Champion.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/853 "2022-12-25T01:02:36Z")

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Congratulations Al! The best Petey the league has ever seen. To win without Lamar and Kupp was really something. See you all next season

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/854 "2022-12-25T01:25:02Z")

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Oh good you’re alive

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/855 "2022-12-26T02:23:46Z")

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I feel okay about this one. I overachieved even making the playoffs let alone taking down what might be the greatest juggernaut our league has ever seen. And I wasn’t going to win the championship no matter what decision I made - even my optimal lineup loses. So I’m not beating myself up over it.

On the other hand, Jules’ optimal lineup would’ve gained him 80(!) points. Almost double his score. They were all tough calls and he’s got so much depth it’s hard to know who to start, but that would’ve drove me nuts.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/856 "2022-12-27T20:45:12Z")

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Congrats to the Re-Peteys! I never doubted you for a second (and anything to keep the championship away from Jules or Beef)!

Looking forward to next season. Three of my draft picks from this year (Drake London, James Cook, and Greg Dulcich) are all making nice progress and Amon-Ra is the real deal. Hopefully Eli Mitchell and Kyler can get healthy and hopefully Chase Claypool can get back to his 2021 form.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2022, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/857 "2022-12-28T03:43:45Z")

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The consolation bowl loss kinda sucks. But, I knew this was a semi rebuild year anyway

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/858 "2022-12-30T00:27:17Z")

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A few proposals we’ll want to keep track of for next preseason:

**– Consolation Bowl**  
What benefit should the winner of the Consolation Bowl receive? Currently it is $10 in FAAB, but I’d like to see some other benefit.

**– Superflex**  
Possible superflex proposal from Ellis: For the first superflex draft only, we would only be allowed to keep one quarterback each. Keep as many of the other positions as you like, as normal.

**– Simplified Draft Pick Bookkeeping**  
Everyone gets 25 picks on August 1st and can use as many of them as they like on keepers. Any remaining picks become draft picks. “Last Pick” will no longer be needed for trades.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/859 "2022-12-30T02:07:28Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Everyone gets 25 picks on August 1st and can use as many of them as they like on keepers. Any remaining picks become draft picks. “Last Pick” will no longer be needed for trades.

I recall @Hamlet got kind of screwed with the existing rule, so I want to be sure I understand the nuance of this change. Let’s say Hamlet trades two studs for Omni’s first round pick. No other transactions take place. What happens with the draft picks?

Hamlet has 26 picks after the trade, but that should now be irrelevant bookkeeping. With the new rule, Hamlet would simply choose however many guys he wants to keep, let’s say 23 guys. That means two draft picks, one of which is Omni’s 1st, plus Hamlet gets his own natural 1st. and that’s his two.

Omni, meanwhile, decides to keep 21 guys, but he traded away his first, meaning he gets his own natural 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounders.

For a concrete example, let’s say Omni drafts 2nd and Hamlet drafts 10th.

By the old rule Hamlet would have had to include his last pick to even the books. So that would have been Omni gets 2.2, 2.10, 3.2, 4.2, and Hamlet gets 1.2 and 1.10.

By the new rule Omni no longer gets Hamlet’s last pick. Instead he just gets 4 natural picks, but those picks start in the 2nd round instead of the 1st: 2.2, 3.2, 4.2, 5.2. Hamlet remains unchanged, drafting his two guys at 1.2 and 1.10. It is notable that the 2.10 pick doesn’t exist here, having been transformed into 5.2, which didn’t exist the old way. So that’s a loss of draft capital for the Omni side in this hypothetical, with no change to the Hamlet side.

But this analysis can’t be right; Hamlet did trade 2 guys for a 1st and he ended up with the short end of the stick. Anyone remember the exact details of that trade? I’m confused.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-14/968055/860 "2022-12-30T03:24:28Z")

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I remember the key detail now. Hamlet only dropped 2 (or few) players, so he was expecting his second player to be a second round pick. But he traded with someone who dropped 7 (or many) players. Net result was that instead of his own last pick, Hamlet had to draft his second player in the 7th round because that was the “and x’s last pick” he got back in the trade.

The weirdness is when you trade players for picks with someone who is drafting many more players than you are. Converting your (high round) last pick into their (low round) last pick can be a stark difference.

I haven’t sat down and analyzed this yet, but I distinctly remember at the time concluding that Hamlet got screwed over by non-essential bookkeeping. So I’m currently in favor of this change, subject to potential further analysis changing my mind. (But I’m lazy. Good chance that further analysis never happens.)

EDIT: The whole point of “and x’s last pick” was to be an inconsequential addition to the trade (who cares about their last pick?) just to keep the bookkeeping easier. In the actual trade Hamlet made, the difference for him was way bigger than inconsequential. Not end of the world, but far from nothing. That alone seems to justify this rule change.

I’d kind of like to give Hamlet a compensatory end-of-third-round pick instead of his last pick if his last pick is after that in this year’s draft as compensation. Or something along those lines.

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