# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year 15 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [August 7, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186 "2023-08-07T11:42:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/261 "2023-09-01T03:22:34Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I was weighing Miller at 1.05, but I didn’t do it because Charbonnet was BPA. I’m really afraid that’s going to bite me. Miller seems like he could be great. Considering how dismal this WR class is, it’s weird that RBs seemed to slide so much. I wonder if this is the fewest RBs taken in the first two rounds in our draft. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/262 "2023-09-01T03:39:01Z")
This draft has been bizarrely slow on RBs. Not that there are a lot of great RBs this year, but even in years where there aren’t many RBs we start reaching for them like 2 rounds ahead before we draft QBs or TEs or 3rd or 4th tier WRs. QB has also been a surprise this year, some of those guys usually wouldn’t go to the 2nd or 3rd rounds. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/263 "2023-09-01T03:56:51Z")
QB Class feels very weak to me - Richardson has the home run potential but could also be Tebow mark II. Young is landing in a bad situation for an owner without patience. I kind of like Stroud as a player, but his situation is even worse and a bad environment is brutal for a young #1 pick. I like the WR class quite a bit. No Chase or Jefferson up top, but lots of very solid WR upside down to WR10-ish. I really like Flowers, JSN, Mims, and Johnston. But it is easy to make strong cases for Mingo, Addison, Hyatt . . . I think the RB slide reflects the uncertainty of so many backfields. RBBC’s abound, and finding a volume target in today’s NFL is a rare beast. Even Robinson, who I love as a player, is likely to see meaningful volume leach to Allgeier. Then again - what do I know. RB’s are hte weakest part of my roster already 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/264 "2023-09-01T04:04:14Z")
> [@Spiritus\_Mundi](#): > > I think the RB slide reflects the uncertainty of so many backfields. RBBC’s abound, and finding a volume target in today’s NFL is a rare beast. Corollary: The prevalence of RBBCs means that most of us have at least 2-3 RBs who we expect to see meaningful carries already on our roster. While it depresses the availability of the bell cow, it also means there are fewer pure ambulance chasers clogging up rosters. I’m keeping CEH and he may have acceptable flex value even though he lost the starting job to Pacheco. 5 years ago, CEH would probably be an FA and I’d be hunting for the next Shanahan breakout guy. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/265 "2023-09-01T04:12:13Z")
Alrighty, looks like we’re wrapped for the night. Excellent work, gentlemen. I should be able to make my pick in the morning assuming Retro does as well, same times as this morning. Here’s a complete data dump for the entire draft to this point. Full draft order, all picks so far, both future trades, and an updated list of cut free agents. (I pulled Pierre out. Missed that the first time around.) > **First 2 Rounds** > > 1.01 RNATB - Bijan Robinson, RB, ATL > 1.02 Retro - Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, DET > 1.03 Jules - Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, SEA > 1.04 Ellis - Quentin Johnston, WR, LAC > 1.05 Justin - Zach Charbonnet, RB, SEA > 1.06 Gaffer - Jordan Addison, WR, MIN > 1.07 Jules - Anthony Richardson, QB, IND > 1.08 Mundi - Zay Flowers, WR, BAL > 1.09 Omni - Jonathan Mingo, WR, CAR > 1.10 Hamlet - Bryce Young, QB, CAR > 1.11 Beef - De’Von Achane, RB, MIA > 1.12 Jules - Tyjae Spears, RB, TEN > > 2.01 RNATB - Sam Howell, QB, WAS > 2.02 Omni - Kendre Miller, RB, NO > 2.03 Retro - Dalton Kincaid, TE, BUF > 2.04 Ellis - Sam LaPorta, TE, DET > 2.05 Justin - C.J. Stroud, QB, HOU > 2.06 Gaffer - Roschon Johnson, RB, CHI > 2.07 Peteys - Marvin Mims Jr., WR, DEN > 2.08 Mundi - Tank Bigsby, RB, JAC > 2.09 Peteys - Jalin Hyatt, WR, NYG > 2.10 Hamlet - Luke Musgrave, TE, GB > 2.11 Beef - Jayden Reed, WR, GB > 2.12 Peteys - Chase Brown, RB, CIN 3.01 RNATB - Rashee Rice, WR, KC 3.02 Omni - Cedric Tillman, WR, CLE 3.03 Retro - 3.04 Ellis - 3.05 Justin - 3.06 Gaffer - 3.07 dale - 3.08 Mundi - 3.09 dale - 3.10 Hamlet - 3.11 Beef - 3.12 Peteys - > **Remaining rounds + future trades** > > 4.01 RNATB - > 4.02 Omni - > 4.03 Retro - > 4.04 Ellis - > 4.05 Justin - > 4.06 Gaffer - > 4.07 dale - > 4.08 Mundi - > 4.11 Beef - > 4.12 Jules - > > 5.02 Omni - > 5.03 Retro - > 5.06 Gaffer - > 5.07 dale - > 5.08 Mundi - > 5.12 Peteys - > > 6.07 dale - > 6.12 Peteys - > > 2024 Trades: > Retro gives 2nd, Omni gives last > Jules gives 1st, Omni gives second to last . > **Cut players** > > Andy Dalton, QB, CAR > Bailey Zappe, QB, NE > Colt McCoy, QB, Free Agent > Davis Mills, QB, HOU > Jeff Driskel, QB, Free Agent > Kelley Mond, QB, Free Agent > Mike White, QB, MIA > Ryan Tannehill, QB, TEN > Taylor Heinicke, QB, ATL > Tom Brady, QB, Retired > Trey Lance, QB, DAL > Tyler Huntley, QB, BAL > Zach Wilson, QB, NYJ > > Ameer Abdullah, RB, LV > Caleb Huntley, RB, Free Agent > Chase Edmonds, RB, TB > Cordarrelle Patterson, RB, ATL > D’Onta Foreman, RB, CHI > Damien Williams, RB, Free Agent > Darrel Williams, RB, NO > Darrell Henderson, RB, Free Agent > Deon Jackson, RB, IND > Dontrell Hilliard, RB, Free Agent > Eno Benjamin, RB, NO > J.D. McKissic, RB, Free Agent > James Robinson, RB, Free Agent > JaMycal Hasty, RB, JAC > Jordan Mason, RB, SF > Kene Nwangwu, RB, MIN > Latavius Murray, RB, BUF > Nyheim Hines, RB, BUF > Snoop Conner, RB, JAC > Tyrion Davis-Price, RB, SF > Zack Moss, RB, IND > Zonovan Knight, RB, DET > > Cedric Wilson Jr, WR, MIA > Chris Moore, WR, TEN > Corey Davis, WR, Retired > Danny Gray, WR, SF > Darius Slayton, WR, NYG > DaVante Parker, WR, NE > Deandre Carter, WR, LV > Demarcus Robinson, WR, LAR > Devin Duvernay, WR, BAL > Dyami Brown, WR, WAS > Isaiah McKenzie, WR, IND > Kalif Raymond, WR, DET > Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR, KC > Marquise Goodwin, WR, CLE > Marvin Jones Jr., WR, DET > Noah Brown, WR, HOU > Olamide Zaccheaus, WR, PHI > Robert Woods, WR, HOU > Russell Gage, WR, TB > Sterling Shepard, WR, NYG > Tim Patrick, WR, DEN > Tutu Atwell, WR, LAR > Tyler Boyd, WR, CIN > Tyquan Thornton, WR, NE > Velus Jones Jr, WR, CHI > > Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, PHI > Daniel Bellinger, TE, NYG > Dawson Knox, TE, BUF > Foster Moreau, TE, NO > Hayden Hurst, TE, CAR > Irv Smith Jr., TE, CIN > Jonnu Smith, TE, ATL > Logan Thomas, TE, WAS > > Brett Maher, K, LAR > Eddie Piniero, K, CAR > Michael Badgley, K, DET > Robbie Gould, K, Free Agent > Ryan Succop, K, Free Agent > > Chicago, DEF, CHI > Detroit, DEF, DET > Houston, DEF, HOU > Las Vegas, DEF, LV EDIT: One minor note is that this draft has 54 picks, not 53. Peteys’ pick at 6.12 was missing from the original count. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/266 "2023-09-01T04:51:30Z")
3.03 Will Levis, QB, Ten @EllisDee is on the clock. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/267 "2023-09-01T05:50:15Z")
Didn’t see that coming. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/268 "2023-09-01T12:18:31Z")
Nor I. Beef is right that we have prioritized QBs in this draft versus other years. I was genuinely thinking one of the big three - Stroud, Richardson, Young - might be available at 3.1. But considering 2 were gone at 2.1 it was pretty obvious the others wouldn’t get out of the second round. Though to be fair, we usually don’t have three guys who have been handed the starting job before week 1. These guys most commonly see the field after the bye nowadays. Of course, getting to that point and finding Howell available made my draft. I needed a guy who would score points _now_ because Herbert is the only other QB on my roster. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/269 "2023-09-01T13:27:43Z")
Agreed. I need a QB with Brady retiring and Levis is the last one I see with a meaningful chance of being a starter. On top of that I only have Cousins and Tua (who seems to be always hurt). ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/270 "2023-09-01T13:27:49Z")
I see nothing. For BPA I have the TE in Vegas, but I already drafted a TE I’m excited about and I think Vegas boy kind of sucks. Originally the plan was RB but the top on my board is 5’5", which I don’t love, but also I have enough RBs and am way short on WR. Top two WR prospects on my board play for IND and ARI, but I already have Pittman and Hollywood. Definitely don’t want to double-dip on the passing attack of either of those teams. So that leaves me with: 3.04 Puka Nacua, WR, LAR @Justin_Bailey is on the clock. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/271 "2023-09-01T17:16:05Z")
Sorry about that, Justin sent me a pre-rank list but I’m just getting on now. 3.05 Eric Gray, RB, NYG Justin actually did a clever thing and put spoiler boxes on his pre-rank list so that I would only reveal them one at a time, and only move on to the next one if necessary. Since he got his first pick, I’m not going to look at the other two. I suggest other people do the same thing if they send me pre-rank lists. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/272 "2023-09-01T17:17:11Z")
@Ol_Gaffer is on the clock. 3.01 RNATB - Rashee Rice, WR, KC 3.02 Omni - Cedric Tillman, WR, CLE 3.03 Retro - Will Levis, QB, Ten 3.04 Ellis - Puka Nacua, WR, LAR 3.05 Justin - Eric Gray, RB, NYG 3.06 Gaffer - 3.07 dale - 3.08 Mundi - 3.09 dale - 3.10 Hamlet - 3.11 Beef - 3.12 Peteys - ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/273 "2023-09-01T19:38:42Z")
Beef, what’s your scouting report on Tillman? ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/274 "2023-09-01T19:38:56Z")
**3.06 Michael Mayer, TE, LV** @dalej42 is up ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/275 "2023-09-01T19:44:57Z")
I used to really keep up with all the Browns stuff in the offseason, watching the preseason games with scrutiny, read the camp reports, but I just haven’t, at all, the last few years, so I honestly have no information on any Browns players that isn’t whatever the fantasy consensus says. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/276 "2023-09-01T21:17:29Z")
I almost drafted Mayer at the 2.11. He doesn’t project to be a fantasy star because he doesn’t have that speed to be a Kelce type hybrid player but he looks like a guy who’s going to be a safety blanket reliable contested catch guy who never comes off the field because he’s a good all-around TE. Great hands, body control, and has the general sort of savvy to use his skills well. I think he’ll be a reliable TE8 type of guy for 10 years, the sort of guy real NFL teams love but never quite a fantasy star. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/277 "2023-09-01T21:24:48Z")
Israel Abanikanda-RB NYJ @Spiritus_Mundi is up ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/278 "2023-09-01T21:25:57Z")
I almost picked Mayer at 3.02, but I’m loaded up with young TEs with breakout potential. I’m actually kind of high on him and think with McDaniels he might end up having a Mark Andrews-like start to his career. He probably isn’t going to be Kelce, but I like his odds to be a rich-man’s Freiermuth. This TE class is loaded, it will be interesting to see how many pan out and if they all do, how will that effect the overall demand for TEs in fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/279 "2023-09-01T22:15:56Z")
Bottom half of round 3. Must be time for a homer reach pick. **Trey Palmer, WR, TB** @dalej42 is up again again ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186/280 "2023-09-01T23:55:19Z")
I will try to get this in later, out doing Friday night stuff. We’re way ahead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-15/988186.md?page=15)