# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year Eight **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259 "2016-07-30T04:17:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/641 "2016-12-24T19:30:25Z")
This is shaping up to be something. Looks like we’re both going to put up big scores. Yahoo projects me to have a bigger score than I will, though, because they’re projecting Green Bay to keep scoring, but whenever they’re up like this after the first half they just stop playing offense. So great first half, Rodgers/Nelson, and that’s all you’re going to do. But no one on Varlos’ team is off to a start like that, so even with Green Bay putting the brakes on it I may be alright. I’m probably at least a 2:1 favorite at this point. Annoyingly, all the choices I might’ve replaced Lamar Miller with other than Gabriel are doing well. Allen Robinson finally has a good game (13.3), Cameron Meredith has 16.3, Chris Thompson 15, even Travis Benjamin is off to a good start. Of all those i was actually very closely split between Gabriel and Meredith. Ah well. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/642 "2016-12-24T21:25:09Z")
Yeah, pretty much as predicted. Rodgers/Nelson combined for 62 points in the first half and 8 points in the second half. Ajayi had his first big week in a while, which is nice. I feel like Ty Montgomery was a mandatory start after blowing up last week, so even though it didn’t work out I’m at peace with it. But if I manage to lose today I’m gonna beat myself up over Gabriel over Meredith. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/643 "2016-12-24T21:43:56Z")
I have a 30 point lead over Varlos with Demaryius Thomas and Cameron Brate still to play. He’s got Crabtree, Sanders, and the Ravens. I’ll take my side of this, but I’m nervous. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/644 "2016-12-27T08:59:31Z")
Congratulations, **SenorBeef!** Take a load off this summer. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/645 "2016-12-27T19:33:38Z")
Congrats, **Beef**. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/646 "2016-12-28T07:09:47Z")
#1 (draft) **Jules Andre gets** 1.04 pick [RB Derrick Henry] **dalej42 gets** 1.11 pick [QB Dak Prescott] 2.11 pick [TE Tyler Higbee] **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #2 (draft) **Stringer gets** WR Kelvin Benjamin \*\* dalej42\*\* gets TE Tyler Eifert **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #3 (draft) **Ellis Dee gets:** 2016 - 1.09 pick [WR Sterling Sheperd] 2017 - 3rd Round pick **SenorBeef gets:** 2016 - 2.03 pick [(traded to Retro) WR Will Fuller] 2017 - 2nd Round pick - plus a [very complicated set of conditional 2017 pick swaps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19594240&postcount=166) **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #4 (draft) **Varlos gets:** 2016 - 2.1 pick [RB CJ Prosise] 2016 - 3.1 pick [(traded to RNATB) QB Paxton Lynch] 2017 - 4th Round pick **RetroVertigo gets:** 2016 - 2.4 pick [(traded to Beef) RB Paul Perkins] 2016 - 2.8 pick [RB Keith Marshall] 2017 - 3rd Round pick **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #5 (draft) **Retrovertigo gets:** 2.03 pick [WR Will Fuller] 4.08 pick [WR Jaelen Strong] **SenorBeef gets:** 2.04 pick [(traded to Justin) RB Paul Perkins] 4.01 pick [RB Jonathan Williams] **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #6 (draft) **SenorBeef gets:** 2016 - 3.6 pick [(traded to Varlos) WR Leonte Carroo] 2016 - 4.5 pick [TE Jared Cook] 2017 - 2nd Round pick 2017 - Option to switch 1st Round picks **Justin Bailey gets** 2016 - 2.4 pick [RB Paul Perkins] 2016 - 3.9 pick [TE Austin Hooper] 2017 - 4th Round pick **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #7 (draft) **RNATB gets:** 2016 - 3.1 pick [QB Paxton Lynch] 2017 - 4th Round pick **VarlosZ gets:** 2016 - 3.5 pick [(traded to Jules) QB Robert Griffin III] 2017 - 2nd Round pick **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #8 (draft) **Jules Andre gets:** 3.5 pick [QB Robert Griffin III] 5.12 pick [WR Eli Rogers] **VarlosZ gets:** 3.11 pick [(traded to Beef) RB Kenyan Drake] 4.4 pick [(traded to Beef) RB Rob Kelley] **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #9 (draft) **Jules Andre gets:** 2016 - 3.4 pick [RB Jordan Howard] 2017 - dalej42’s last pick **dalej42 gets:** 2016 - 7.11 pick [WR Anquan Boldin] 2017 - 3rd Round pick \*\* 2017 swap becomes a 2nd for a 3rd if dale has no picks after the 3rd\* **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #10 (draft) **VarlosZ gets:** 3.6 pick [WR Leonte Carroo] 5.4 pick [WR Robby Anderson] **SenorBeef gets:** 3.11 pick [RB Kenyan Drake] 4.4 pick [RB Rob Kelley] **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #11 (9/9; 3-team trade) **RNATB gets:** RB Doug Martin (from Varlos) Varlos’ 2nd Round pick next year **Varlos gets:** RB LeSean McCoy (from Beef) WR DeVante Parker (from Beef) RNATB’s last pick next year **SenorBeef gets:** RB Lamar Miller (from RNATB) WR Pharoh Cooper (from Varlos) **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #12 (10/18) **Jules Andre** sends: RB T.J. Yeldon RB Chris Ivory **Petey** sends: QB Carson Wentz WR Andre Johnson **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #13 (10/19) **Ellis Dee gets:** TE Travis Kelce WR Jamison Crowder DEF Indianapolis **Jules Andre gets:** WR Jordan Matthews WR Donte Moncrief DEF Buffalo **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** **#14 (10/25) Stringer gets:** RB Knile Davis **Jules Andre gets:** TE Ladarius Green **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #15 (10/28) **RNATB gets:** RB Jacquizz Rodgers WR Willie Snead **Jules Andre gets:** RB DeAndre Washington WR Breshad Perriman **\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_** #16 (10/31) **Justin Bailey gets:** TE Jimmy Graham **Stringer gets:** RB Theo Riddick ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/647 "2016-12-28T08:10:37Z")
[Last Year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18942749#post18942749). Total Points Scored: 19,085.79 (-338.56 from last year) Average Points/Team: 1.590.48 (-28.22) Average Team/Week: 113.61 (-2.01) _Northeast Division (14-18): 1571.52 –\> 112.28/ppg (-5.55 from last year) Midwest Division (15-17): 1610.10 –\> 115.01/ppg (-0.62) Sunbelt Division (19-13): 1588.33 –\> 113.45/ppg (+0.01)_ Scoring was way down this year. In our league that mostly wound up manifesting as the Northeast falling back after last year’s breakout while the other two divisions held firm or slipped a little, but overall that’s an unusually large drop in points. I haven’t checked, but I assume a drop in offense in the NFL would be the reason. I’m not writing them down, but I did do a quick count, and there were only seven single-game scores of 150 or more points, down down from 13 last year, and 18 in 2013. Yikes. All-Time Win/Loss Though Eight Years: Stringer: 76-36 SenorBeef: 71-41 Petey: 67-45 Justin\_Bailey: 63-49 RNATB: 59-53 VarlosZ: 59-53 Hamlet: 56-56 furt/Jules Andre: 51-61 Omni/Hermits: 48-64 Ellis Dee: 45-67 RetroVertigo: 39-73 dalej42: 38-74 No one winds up moving up or down the all-time rankings from last year. Aside from the general depression in points scored, however, there appears to be a move toward overall parity in the league. As a **VERY** quick & dirty method to measure this, I compared the second-highest scoring team to the second-lowest scoring team every year (lopping off the top and bottom to get rid of outliers and smooth out the data a bit). It’s not perfect – sometimes two teams would really separate from the pack together – but it gives a decent sense of the range in team quality from year to year. The difference is given in points per game: '16: 16.75 '15: 19.26 '14: 32.37 '13: 36.77 '12: 30.14 '11: 27.79 '10: 32.90 '09: 25.68 On the other hand, there doesn’t seem to be a ton of volatility, i.e. teams moving from the bottom of the standings to the top or vice versa. Anecdotally, **RNATB** seems to have had a mix of fat and lean years, and teams occasionally spike up or down, but most teams have tended to stay in their lanes, as suggested by the overall records above. A problem? A testament to the fact that fantasy football is, in the long run, a skill game? Beats me. Finally, **Petey** winds up with the Points Championship, scoring 2018.77 including Weeks 15 &16. As we might expect, this is easily the lowest high score we’ve ever had (see OP). ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/648 "2016-12-28T08:23:51Z")
And finally, a hearty congratulations to **SenorBeef**. At long last breaking out of that (frankly hilarious) cycle of 3rd Place finishes, he takes the title primarily on the strength of two things: the connection of Aaron Rodgers (#1 scoring QB this year) to Jordy Nelson (#2 WR), and Jay Ajayi’s crazy mid-season breakout, with assists from a deep WR corps (2nd, 15th, 21st, 31st) and a very deep RB corps (11th, 16th, 25th, 26th, 31st, 32nd). The latter, especially, bodes well for future success (assuming he can find a QB to replace Rodgers in the next year or two, that is). Well played! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/649 "2016-12-28T08:33:37Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > No, this is the only free league I play in, but I’ll keep an eye on where you finish this year in HHM, champ. Does top scorer in the league qualify? Or did I just get lucky? I hear crow is pretty tasty when fried. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/650 "2016-12-28T09:40:16Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > #3 (draft) > **Ellis Dee gets:** > 2016 - 1.09 pick [WR Sterling Sheperd] > 2017 - 3rd Round pick > > **SenorBeef gets:** > 2016 - 2.03 pick [(traded to Retro) WR Will Fuller] > 2017 - 2nd Round pick > > - plus a [very complicated set of conditional 2017 pick swaps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19594240&postcount=166) Conditionals did not apply. Based on standings, I’ll be picking 4th and Beef will be picking last (12th). 2.4 is the 16th pick, 3.12 is the 36th pick, which is a difference of 20. The conditional was for “more than 20”, meaning it doesn’t apply. So that teeny tiny sliver of a points differential that dropped me to the 4th pick also cost me moving my 5th round pick up 4 spots. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/651 "2016-12-28T15:55:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Does top scorer in the league qualify? Or did I just get lucky? > > I hear crow is pretty tasty when fried. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/652 "2016-12-28T16:00:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Ayuh. I’ll be worried about that all season long. Apparently, this wasn’t sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/653 "2016-12-29T05:55:48Z")
Final results: League Champion: **Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)** 1. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) 2. We Do HGH (Stringer) 3. Isotopes (Petey) 4. Nine Inch Neils (Really Not All That Bright) 5. JB’S Gusterrhoids (Justin Bailey) 6. CuteWiddleBunny (Hamlet) 7. Ides of Martz (Omniscient) 8. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) 9. HungryHungryHaruspex (Jules Andre) 10. RetroVertigo 11. Warner’s Brothers (dalej42) ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/654 "2016-12-29T06:53:36Z")
The base draft order is this: 1. dalej42 2. RetroVertigo 3. Jules Andre 4. Ellis Dee 5. RNATB 6. Justin\_Bailey 7. Hamlet 8. Omniscient 9. Petey 10. Stringer 11. VarlosZ 12. SenorBeef The lengthy series of trades during this year’s draft then leaves us with a tentative draft order of: 1.01 dale 1.02 Retro 1.03 Jules 1.04 Ellis 1.05 RNATB 1.06 Beef [from Justin] 1.07 Hamlet 1.08 Omni 1.09 Petey 1.10 Stringer 1.11 Varlos 1.12 Justin [from Beef] 2.01 dale 2.02 Retro 2.03 Jules 2.04 Beef [from Ellis] 2.05 Varlos [from RNATB] 2.06 Beef [from Justin] 2.07 Hamlet 2.08 Omni 2.09 Petey 2.10 Stringer 2.11 RNATB [from Varlos] 2.12 Beef 3.01 dale 3.02 Retro 3.03 dale [from Jules] 3.04 Ellis 3.05 RNATB 3.06 Justin 3.07 Hamlet 3.08 Omni 3.09 Petey 3.10 Stringer 3.11 Retro [from Varlos] 3.12 Ellis [from Beef] 4.01 dale 4.02 Varlos [from Retro] 4.03 Jules 4.04 Ellis 4.05 RNATB 4.06 Justin 4.07 Hamlet 4.08 Omni 4.09 Petey 4.10 Stringer 4.11 RNATB [from Varlos] 4.12 Justin [from Beef] - Jules gets dale’s last pick - Varlos gets RNATB’s last pick … Now let’s see if I remember that I already wrote this down, or if I wind up working it out all over 6 months from now. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/655 "2016-12-30T00:04:39Z")
Congrats Beef. You earned it. Putting it out there now, anyone looking to stock up on veteran talent should talk to me. I want picks and I want them now (or rather, before the draft in August, when we’re all thinking about Fantasy again). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/656 "2016-12-30T14:45:38Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > Apparently, this wasn’t sarcasm. Sure it was. Just hitting my payback tour for shit talkers. I notice that the man himself didn’t respond, not that I expected it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/657 "2016-12-30T16:54:26Z")
I love - by which I mean hate - that I traded my second-round pick to Varlos when my team was the dog’s bollocks and looked set for a top-three finish, and I traded _for_ Varlos’ second-rounder when his team was mired in a sea of crap. Having said that, the fifth pick might really be worth something this year - Dalvin Cook might still be there, for example (I’m assuming Fournette will be long gone but I suppose that depends on where he’s drafted). ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/658 "2017-01-01T18:17:41Z")
Congrats to Beef on the win. I really struggled this year, especially toward the end, with not giving a shit anymore. I was really excited to start the season, being projected to win it all and having an OK draft (I sure wish I dumped more keepers though), but the fucking injuries just sucked any interest in the league. Still, I like my team for next year. David Johnson is a stud, and I have a ton of WR depth. My team is getting older, with Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, and Brandon Marshall on the downside of their careers, but I like some of my younger talent. I’m still weak at the QB position and TE position, but such is life. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/659 "2017-01-03T14:35:55Z")
… I still have tight ends to trade. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/660 "2017-04-27T09:33:34Z")
[Martavis Bryant celebrated his reinstatement back into the NFL by running a 4.27 40-yard dash.](http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Check-out-Martavis-Bryants-427-40-yard-dash-52488371) Draft tomorrow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259.md?page=34)