# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year Eight **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259 "2016-07-30T04:17:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/141 "2016-08-30T09:41:05Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > But I didn’t trade for Dale’s 5th round pick, I traded for his last pick. And if we implicitly allowed the swap I mentioned, then Jules would also be getting “Dale’s last pick” - I was wondering how that would be resolved. I guess Jules would get second-to-last since we already knew I had Dale’s last. > > This could also come up if someone were to trade their first rounder and second rounder away to other people. We’d have to have an order for deciding the “last pick” thing. I guess the simplest is that the first such trade gets last pick, second gets second to last pick, etc. I’m not following this logic at all, in that I don’t see how there could be any question how it works. If you and I swap last picks right now, ownership is transferred right now. If tomorrow I turn around and swap last picks with Omni, obviously it’s your original last pick I’m trading to Omni, not the pick I already traded to you and no longer have any ownership over. Of course “last pick” trades are processed chronologically; ALL trades are processed chronologically. Just imagine players instead of draft picks being traded. If I trade Jarvis Landry to you, I can’t then trade Jarvis Landry to Omni the next day because I no longer have Jarvis Landry. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/142 "2016-08-30T10:16:45Z")
Added Hillman to **Omni** ’s keepers – sorry about that. Sent another PM to **RNATB**. We’ll give him a little longer. He’s still in Florida, right? And I seem to recall he’s, like, a lawyer? With a 9-to-5? So presumably he should be awake in the next couple hours, hopefully we’ll start moving again soon. If not we’ll start skipping him, with a mandatory gap of a couple hours between picks. We do have to pick up the pace, though. The issue of dale’s/Jules’ draft picks is, as far as I’m concerned, already settled. If **dale** would like to drop an additional player to get his draft pick back I’ll allow it, but he can’t wait too long on that. The question of whether **Beef** winds up with dale’s 4th or 5th round pick is 95% arbitrary, but I tend to see the unbalanced trade as forcing a retroactive _keep_ (of sorts) on dale’s roster, which means he only has picks in the first four rounds, which means his “last pick” for trade purposes is in the 4th. Put another way, it’s a question of what order we wish to do our bookkeeping in; I think we settle dale’s roster (cuts, etc.) to get him to 25 first, then dole out any conditional draft picks. Again, this isn’t the only way to conceptualize the process, but, well, it is the way we’re gonna do it ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/143 "2016-08-30T11:24:00Z")
I’m fine with giving up my last draft pick to balance the trade ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/144 "2016-08-30T15:24:43Z")
It’s been 19 hours, I vote to autopick. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/145 "2016-08-30T15:29:42Z")
Unless autopick is the preferred remedy of people who chime in quickly, I think we’re just going to start skipping him in 30 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/146 "2016-08-30T15:31:54Z")
Is that how we’ve handled it in the past, skipping? Whatever we’ve done in the past is fine with me. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/147 "2016-08-30T15:32:30Z")
It’s never come up before, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/148 "2016-08-30T15:38:32Z")
Mike Tice rule. Skip him, but he can make his pick anytime as soon as he can. I also have no objection to giving another few hours. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/149 "2016-08-30T15:51:01Z")
Skip with the option to butt in at any time is less damaging than a wrong auto pick. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/150 "2016-08-30T15:59:38Z")
Alright, I guess we’ll go ahead without him for the moment. We’ll put a two-hour halt on drafting after every pick, both to give him a chance to come back and to avoid the draft being compressed so much there can be no trade talks. I’ll send out a PM to the next several people in the draft order. **Omni** is now on the clack. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/151 "2016-08-30T16:01:40Z")
Actually, everyone coming up soon in the draft is already in the thread. I’ll just PM Omni. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/152 "2016-08-30T17:41:34Z")
I got a couple of reasonable offers for Parker, which I may take, but not a young RB which is what I was hoping for. I still may take those deals, but if anyone has a running back to deal (and I’d be willing to package something else like my 1.09 for a good one) get back to me soon. After some research I found out I may be undervaluing him. He apparently goes in the late 2nd/early 3rd rounds in startup dynasty leagues. I didn’t feel like his situation was great enough to justify being like the 25th most valuable dynasty player (and seems to be rated higher than any WR in this draft), but people seem to be treating it as though he already broke out as a star rather than seems like a budding one. But I may end up holding for a year to see if they’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/153 "2016-08-30T18:15:39Z")
I’ll take Tajae Sharpe, WR Ten. No PM sent, on my phone right now, can someone help me out? We’re putting in a 2 hour hold due to RNATB between picks. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/154 "2016-08-30T18:19:25Z")
I’ll PM Stringer. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/155 "2016-08-30T18:33:58Z")
I’ll have my pick, or trade of the pick in here shortly. Edit: Oh right I have to wait. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/156 "2016-08-30T19:14:10Z")
If anyone likes someone who fell to this point, I’m willing to trade my first rounder (and last pick) next year for a first and third next year. So you get 1.09, next year’s last pick. I get your next year’s 1st and 3rd. If you’re a team that finished in the bottom half of the league this year (top 6 pick) I’d probably be willing to waive the “and a third” part. Just straight up you get get a first rounder a year early. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/157 "2016-08-30T20:21:25Z")
1.08 - Josh Doctson WR, WAS ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/158 "2016-08-30T21:41:11Z")
Stringer gets: WR Corey Coleman Pick 6.12 Varlos gets: WR Josh Doctson Pick 2.8 I really came to prefer Coleman over the past couple days, but that’s just from the eyeball test, and by objective measures they’re very close in value. So, I feel like I’m gonna regret this, but the value is too good to pass up. I mean, before the draft, if someone has told me I would get Josh Doctson with the 5th pick, I would consider that a win, so to get the 2.8 pick thrown in is gravy. That said, if somenone here is especially enthusiastic about Doctson, I’m not opposed to trading him. **Beef** can pick starting at 6:20. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/159 "2016-08-30T21:47:46Z")
1.01 Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Dal - RetroVertigo 1.02 Laquon Treadwell, WR, Min - Petey 1.03 Kenneth Dixon, RB, Bal - Ellis Dee 1.04 Derrick Henry, RB, Ten - Jules Andre 1.05 Corey Coleman, WR, Cle - VarlosZ 1.06 RNATB (skipped) 1.07 Tajae Sharp, WR, Ten 1.08 Josh Doctson WR, Was 1.09 SenorBeef 1.10 Hamlet 1.11 furt 1.12 VarlosZ ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259/160 "2016-08-30T22:50:52Z")
I’m working out the details of a pick swap with someone who’s offline at the moment, so it may be a bit. In the meantime, I’m still willing to do the 1.09 for a first next year + sweetener thing if anyone is interested in that. Stringer, I’m guessing you have a hardon for Coleman since you were willing to pay a second rounder to get him instead of Doctson (who most people feel is worth about the same). Just as a Browns fan in need of some excitement, sell me on why he’s great. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-eight/761259.md?page=9)