# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year Nine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 11, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357 "2017-08-11T19:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/342 "2017-09-10T06:16:18Z")

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On the plus side, Varlos has set his roster so he’s at least alive. On the negative side, I guess it doesn’t really matter what his draft picks were - by now he can just pick people up from the waiver wire. We tried to put that one in on hold as long as we could but he’s been running from Colombian drug gangs for too long.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/343 "2017-09-10T08:18:25Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Once again I repeat, my team is OLD. But short of blowing up absolutely everything, I’m kind of stuck in limbo this year. I’ve still got enough firepower to contend for a playoff spot, but I don’t think I’ve got championship hopes this year.

I don’t make that distinction myself. What can happen in any two games is a crapshoot. If you can make the playoffs, you’ve got at least a reasonable shot at the championship.

> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> So, the top of the draft. This was a crazy, confusing mess that stretched out over days of planning. My initial goal was to get three of these top five picks. Because I inherited a team in this league, very few of the guys on the roster were guys I believed in. I turned over nearly the entire roster last season, but even still, I had almost nobody at the top of my roster that was “my guy.” This would be okay if the roster was competitive, but finishing 10th meant I couldn’t settle for one upgrade a year, because it would take years to cycle the roster, and only then if I got every decision correct. I think I hit more than I missed last year (so far), but I’m still a ways away. I needed a burst infusion of elite talent.

I really admire what you’ve done with your team. It’s hard to come into a dynasty league and play a team that you didn’t build yourself, it just doesn’t feel right, and I appreciate that you were willing to be a replacement in that difficult situation. But you’ve been very active in making your team your own, and doing so with good moves. Even if sometimes if you end up trading for roughly equal value or maybe even slightly less (which I’m not saying you’ve done here) you can at least feel like you’ve made your team your own, which is important. That’s what really sets this league apart.

You were absolutely my first pick to invite to our league when a spot opened and I advocated strongly for you (against no resistance, so I’m not exactly a hero) and you’ve done better than I expected since you’ve joined us.

I genuinely hope you manage to make your team good enough to lose to me in the championship round.

> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> • Corey Davis at 5 is insanely good, and seeing the reigning champ get maybe the top overall prospect is a big concern. I know I just said I almost took him, but I blame you all and you have all utterly failed.

Yay.

RBs tend to get overvalued in our league, I think. But the problem is - if everyone rushes to a position, then if you don’t also participate in the rush it’s really hard to land a player at that position. We very quickly get to long shot RBs in our drafts.

Elite WR prospects fall too much because of that. And WRs last long and are most consistent for dynasty purposes, leading to most of the best dynasty assets in the league being WRs. I felt Corey Davis was a significantly better prospect than anyone else in that draft and one of the most likely players to end up being a top 10-15 dynasty asset, so I was really happy to land him at 5 (even making a probably unnecesary trade and moving back from a 2nd to 3rd round pick to ensure no one else traded up and took him)

That said, I didn’t really do all that on purpose. I tried to trade into the top 4 and probably would’ve taken an RB, although I hadn’t actually decided who I was going to take when I got there. I considered this to be a 5 player top tier draft and I just wanted to pick in the top 5 to insure I landed one of them. This is the first year I’ve been strong enough at RB to be balanced enough that WR might actually be a justified need for me rather than just BPA.

Incidentally - I landed two of your guys, Carson and Mack in the late rounds of the HHM keeper league. If you’re right then we’re both in for a pretty good year next year.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/344 "2017-09-10T16:47:08Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I don’t make that distinction myself. What can happen in any two games is a crapshoot. If you can make the playoffs, you’ve got at least a reasonable shot at the championship.

Because of how old my team is, they have a habit of running out of gas around Week 11. It definitely happened last year and was the cause of my huge late season collapse.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/345 "2017-09-10T23:43:15Z")

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Ah, yeah, I hadn’t considered in that context, I guess that makes sense. Strong start, poor finish. My team has always been pretty young - although the duo that has been at the core of my team is now on the wrong side of 30.

None of my guys exceeded expections today and a few flopped. It looks like Montgomery will see plenty of use in GB and Kizer did fairly well, putting up as many points as Rodgers in his first game (the third youngest starting QB in history) - it’ll get better.

The first game between Petey and I may be huge, he and I had the playoff and wildcard slots last year and winning the division may come down to us. Although RNATB outperformed us both significantly so far, so it’ll probably be a three way race again.

I’ve got a 16 point lead with Demaryius Thomas, Kai Forbath, and Denver D still to play against his Dez Bryant, Tedd Ginn, and Cole Beasley.

Jules needs 17 points out of Stephon Diggs and Hunter Henry to beat Varlos.

Omni needs a 17 point game out of Kyle Rudolph to beat Hamlet.

Justin needs to make up a 30 point gap with Brees, Perkins, and Minnesota D vs Ellis Dee with Shepard and Dan Bailey.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/346 "2017-09-11T01:29:22Z")

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So I have 500 PMs stored in my inbox and always have to clear a few when someone PMs me. Most of these PMs are previous trade talks I’ve had with people for this league. I like to save them to look at them again years later.

There are so many bad trades I proposed to people when I was desperate to try to get some sort of young RB. I would like to thank you guys for refusing my (pretty reasonable) offers since almost all of them would’ve left me in worse shape now.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/347 "2017-09-11T14:44:52Z")

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Of course David Johnson gets injured week 1. Hopefully he’ll get back soon, but goddamn am I sick of my most important players getting injured.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/348 "2017-09-11T23:38:00Z")

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That’s a really, really tough break. If you want, I’ll trade for your most important players so you don’t have to worry about them getting hurt.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/349 "2017-09-11T23:47:06Z")

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I’m just waiting for Phillip Rivers and Michael Thomas to be out for the year after tonights games.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/350 "2017-09-12T01:33:07Z")

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I hate when yahoo lags on putting a guy on IR. I want to pick up someone in waivers tomorrow and I don’t know if I can IR Robinson by then which would mean I’d have to drop someone. Ugh.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/351 "2017-09-12T01:49:14Z")

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Out players can go on IR dude.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/352 "2017-09-12T01:55:11Z")

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Oh, weird. What does yahoo use “out” for then? I mean if a player is ruled out of a game for just one week, would they get the out status? And would you be able to stick them in the IR slot?

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/353 "2017-09-12T01:58:09Z")

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Yes you can place players who are Out for one week on IR and pick someone else up. Of course, you can’t make moves the next week with a non-Out player in your IR slot…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/354 "2017-09-12T13:41:01Z")

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Pretty crappy opening week for everyone but **Stringer** , **Hamlet** and I. Of course, Hamlet’s lost David Johnson, which is rather horrible.

> [@Stringer](#):
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> Out players can go on IR dude.

I never knew that! Probably because I usually have at least two guys on IR by the time the season starts.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/355 "2017-09-14T15:08:14Z")

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Having just cut Steven Hauschka, my longest-tenured drafted player, it seems like a good time to go back and look at my original 2009 draft in this league for a “where are they now?” segment again.

> [@](#):
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> 9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
> 
> 1. (2) Michael Turner  
> (Atl - RB) - cut/retired. Drafted ahead of AP because I’m stupid, though his 2008 numbers justified it.
> 
> 2. (23) Kevin Smith  
> (Det - RB) - injured to death, cut. Thought he would be a perennial top-5 back in this league for years, but injuries derailed that train. He’s now the RB coach at FAU. Ameer Abdullah’s career arc is scarily similar, not just because he plays for the Lions.
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> 3. (35) Brandon Marshall  
> (Chi - WR) - traded for Jason Witten who I traded for Reggie Bush who I traded for Mark Ingram/Shane Vereen (who have been staples of my roster since). Probably my best pick of this draft.
> 
> 4. (38) Vincent Jackson  
> (TB - WR) - traded for Ben Tate and Chris Ponder. Later traded back, now cut.
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> 5. (59) DeSean Jackson  
> (Phi - WR) - traded to get Vincent Jackson back. Whoops.
> 
> 6. (62) Larry Johnson  
> (Mia - RB) - cut/grandmama
> 
> 7. (83) Matt Schaub  
> (Hou - QB) - The balding principal of my team lo these many years, but cut after he was let go by Houston.
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> 8. (86) Chris Cooley  
> (Was - TE) - traded for… something useless, probably
> 
> 9. (107) Cedric Benson  
> (GB - RB) - cut/drunk. He went for 1000 yards for three straight seasons with Cincy before falling off the map.
> 
> 10. (110) Carson Palmer  
> (Ari - QB) - cut/retired, then unretired, and got beaten to the punch on waivers
> 
> 11. (131) Philadelphia  
> (Phi - DEF) - cut, picked up, cut, picked up, cut
> 
> 12. (134) Steve Smith  
> (TB - WR) - wrong Steve Smith. This was the one who played for the Giants. Never the same after a knee injury, cut.
> 
> 13. (155) Carnell Williams  
> (StL - RB) - cut/injured to death, but he was surprisingly valuable for a while.
> 
> 14. (158) Washington  
> (Was - DEF) - bleh
> 
> 15. (179) Mason Crosby  
> (GB - K) - was on roster until I dumped him for Connor Barth. Looked like he was going to be released by Green Bay at the time.
> 
> 16. (182) Nate Burleson  
> (Det - WR) - traded for Jason Witten (!) who I later traded for Reggie Bush, yada yada
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> 17. (203) Tampa Bay  
> (TB - DEF) - have come and gone a few times since, currently gone.
> 
> 18. (206) Matt Prater  
> (Den - K) - should have kept him over Barth. Tebowed.
> 
> 19. (227) Robert Meachem  
> (NO - WR) - finally cut this year after what feels like a decade of waiting for a breakout. The reason I traded picks in subsequent drafts as often as possible over the years.
> 
> 20. (230) Jermichael Finley  
> (GB - TE) - traded for Zach Miller (the one from Seattle currently with the Bears who I just cut before this draft, I think) and Bernard Scott (who?)
> 
> 21. (251) DeDe Dorsey  
> (Det - RB) - who?
> 
> 22. (254) Fred Taylor  
> (Jax - RB) - cut/pensioner
> 
> 23. (275) Maurice Morris  
> (Det - RB) - cut/boring
> 
> 24. (278) Mewelde Moore  
> (Ind - RB) - cut/Love Boat
> 
> 25. (299) Edgerrin James  
> (Sea - RB) - comeback didn’t pan out

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/356 "2017-09-14T15:15:07Z")

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I also wanted to share this gem from 2013 that I came across while going back through the trade history (I actually owned Brandon Marshall twice and traded him and Chris Cooley for nothing).

> [@SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Four](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/152):
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> Jackson is 29, with six 250+ carry seasons under his belt, including three 300+ carry seasons. He’s also only started 16 games twice. Counting receptions, he’s got over 2500 career touches. That’s over 500 more than Frank Gore, and Gore’s career is being fitted for a coffin. In fairness, it’s only two thirds of LaDanian Tomlinson’s career touches, but it’s worth noting that 2,500 touches is almost _exactly_ the point where his statistics nosedived.
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> Even if Peade doesn’t get much action this year, his time will be coming sooner rather than later.

The “Jackson” being referenced is Steven Jackson, former Rams RB.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/357 "2017-09-18T02:35:52Z")

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Rough week for me. Nelson is out with an injury which also hurts Rodgers, Gronk has a groin injury, and Rob Kelley may have a broken rib. Still will probably pull out this week at least, if Rodgers can do anything.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/358 "2017-09-18T12:03:37Z")

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On the plus side, there were a lot of questions about how much Green Bay would use Ty Montgomery, and the answer seems to be “a lot” - he seems to be involved in everything. Martavis Bryant also seems to be in good form after a year off.

I was trying to figure out how I got Bryant in the first place, since I didn’t remember drafting him. I looked it up and I grabbed him on a waiver bid that wasn’t contested, no one else put in a bid for him. Then I remembered Montgomery was also an uncontested waiver. Terelle Pryor and Cameron Meredith were free agent pickups, although Pryor has started off slowly this year and Meredith was injured. Chris Thompson, who may end up being the best back to start in Washington, was a free agent pickup too. Jalen Richard, who had a big week, another FA.

Just surprised to find out how much of my current roster I got uncontested/almost free (still had to spend some FAAB)

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/359 "2017-09-18T12:50:37Z")

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It would be nice if waivers was more competitive in this league. I have gotten many multi-year contributors for free/faab.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/360 "2017-09-18T13:54:44Z")

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Montgomery was Green Bay’s fifth wideout when you picked him up, after doing literally nothing on my roster for two years. So it’s not really surprising that your bid was uncontested.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/361 "2017-09-18T13:56:07Z")

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And yet for some strange reason I picked him up.

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